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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2008, 09:23:09 pm » |
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At first I thought great! The facilities at Donington will improve but then reality hit me. They will build grandstands everywhere, catch fencing etc. I prefer Donington for real motor racing enthusiasts, not individuals being entertained on corporate expenses and drivers who are so detached from the people who pay their tax bills. I've had a drink and I may be rambling but I'm pissed off with the first mention of poxy, poncy, hairdresser F1 and the whole circus that surrounds it. Piss off Bernie and stay in Silverstone. Steve
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2008, 10:19:45 pm » |
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Well said Steve- the 'f**k off back down south Bernie' campaign starts right here!
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2008, 11:24:43 pm » |
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Interesting views expressed by the US TV team of Bob Varsh, Steve Matchett, and David Hobbs this morning during the practice coverage. Varsha and Matchett both saying that if they plan on holding a F1 race in 2010, with all of the work they're planning on doing, they need to be moving dirt TODAY! My general impression is that Donington is probably similar to Road Atlanta or Mid-Ohio in its current state, a terrific venue for spectators, but not up to the press and hospitality standards that F1 is used to. As I understand, this involves a complete redesign of the circuit by this Tilke Twat, if so Donington is f**ked as you know & love it. It'll end up looking like one of these new generic, devoid of charisma, crap circuits that he's designed. Fax
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Nobby Diesel
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2008, 11:25:01 pm » |
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I've only ever watched bikes at Donny, but I cant see F1 cars working as the circuit is. I just can't see F1 going there in anything like the near future. There would have to be a massive investment and building programme there in the next 18 months to allow F1 i n 2010. As far as I'm aware, there have been no Planning Applications made for the circuit that resemble anything like F1 proportions.
As said earlier, viewing from the infield would be superb, as the circuit is at present. F1 would mean grandstands everywhere, obscuring the view that spectators have at the moment. In a way, I hope they leave Donny as it is.
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2008, 11:26:43 pm » |
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John,
Hi mate! I think we were saying the same thing at the same time, pretty much!
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2008, 10:10:16 am » |
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They need to spend to many many millions (maybe as much as 70 if the reports I have read are correct) to bring the track and paddock up top BE's exacting standards. Plus the roads in the area will need to be upgraded, that will please the local tax payers, I doubt HM Gov will dip into state funds to do it, not with 2012 to pay for and the fact it has laid out for the improvements around Silverstone.
I really can't see it happening in this economic climate, and this time next year, when not one sod has been turned BE will announce a GP in India to replace the Brit GP.
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2008, 11:04:52 am » |
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I really can't see it happening in this economic climate, and this time next year, when not one sod has been turned BE will announce a GP in India to replace the Brit GP.
Agree 100%. They're pissing in the wind if they think it's going to be half ready by 2010. Not even gone to planning, os the plans probably haven't been drawn up yet. The prospect of Donnington being ruinned is yet another reason I couldn't care less anymore if there wasn't a British GP. It was the first motor racing curcuit i ever drove around, way back in 1982. Then when Jaguar restarted a works team with TWR, I was there for their debut in the ETC and then every Uk round for the following few years. I was so exited when Jag went into GpC which I guess lead me to LM and the rest is history... Also did anyone else go to early eighties Monsters of Rock concerts with legndary bands like Saxon, Hawkwind, Gillan etc. The Donnington Collection is awesome too, though it'll probably be moved now.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2008, 11:23:17 am » |
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Strange thats its moving now.Weve just got the contract in work to supply 1900 tonnes of steelwork for the new pits at Silverstone.Seems like its going to be a year too late PM
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2008, 01:32:50 pm » |
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They need to spend to many many millions (maybe as much as 70 if the reports I have read are correct) to bring the track and paddock up top BE's exacting standards. Plus the roads in the area will need to be upgraded, that will please the local tax payers, I doubt HM Gov will dip into state funds to do it, not with 2012 to pay for and the fact it has laid out for the improvements around Silverstone.
I really can't see it happening in this economic climate, and this time next year, when not one sod has been turned BE will announce a GP in India to replace the Brit GP.
The circuit owners may have already applied for Planning Permission as an advance in anticipation. As we all know this can take ages to get the go-ahead. Regarding access roads in and around the surrounding area, this will undoubtably be under the Highways Act - Sec 278 agreement requiring the 'developer' to fund and construct and may be part funded the county council and Highways Agency prior to and re-development works. Approvals for these can take years but can be fast tracked. In my experience, there is not the time window to undertake and complete the works. If it goes ahead, my CV will be winging way to Donnington.
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2008, 02:57:09 pm » |
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Leftie,
I'm with you here, there's no way that they can get the application in and run the necessary public consultation soon enough. My guess is that every greeny for miles will object to the expansion and it'll end up in a public enquiry.
The S.278 will be "interesting" and as for fast tracking the Govt have not yet found a way to force an ecotown through the system, let alone a new racecourse.
If the poison dwarf thinks that he can bend the system to suit him then I'll buy a seat to watch.
Any favouritism will be pounced upon by other parties claiming unfair advantage & will inevitably end in a Judicial Review Challenge.
2010 - I think not
Landman
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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2008, 09:50:48 pm » |
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Come what may, if it has the prospects of the last Donnington GP, with Senna's awsome drive, I would go. I is entirly likely that its a rouse set for failier by the little tw*t, that way he can blame someone else for moving the race tpo Asia.
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2008, 10:03:06 pm » |
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Also did anyone else go to early eighties Monsters of Rock concerts with legndary bands like Saxon, Hawkwind, Gillan etc. The Donnington Collection is awesome too, though it'll probably be moved now. I went twice in the late 80's it's safe to say I've never seen so much mud They still have a festival called the download but it was mid June the same weekend as the 24 hours
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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2008, 10:18:10 pm » |
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The only way I can see that the F1 GP will end up at Donington is if the poison dwarf himself is the mystery private backer behind the investment, and he has got enough cash to spend £100m just to be vindictive. Whatever his evil plan is I hope it plays out before Donington gets ruined.
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« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2008, 10:31:48 pm » |
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Just dont ruin a brilliant bike circuit with brilliant views.
F1's sh*t anyway. its for rich people now.
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« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2008, 11:02:40 pm » |
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I've been thinking............................Prove me wrong. This is a PD cunning plan............ - Silverstone warned several times to upgrade but have not,
- Donnington awarded contract with total lack time to complete works
- Silverstone commences some works,
- Donnington commences works but major external works not completed,
- GP withdrawn from Donnington 2010, untill further noticeli]
- Silverstone re-awarded contract for 2010 as their construction works will be under way!!
Donnington is the 'sledge hammer' to Silverstone.
If you saw Senna's drive in heavy rain from the start. He was the only one on slicks and then you can understand all that I love about Donnington.
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At my age, it takes me all night to do what I used to do all night!!!!!!!!!!! Then, growing old is compulsary, but growing up is just optional.
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