One for Mr Z, Which film

[Lorry]

Not a lot.  It seems to be a cross between a Clan Crusader, and a Lancia Statos, probably made under licence by Matra

Am I warm?

[nopanic - neil]

Not a lot.  It seems to be a cross between a Clan Crusader, and a Lancia Statos, probably made under licence by Matra

Am I warm?

there may be a very small link, but not that I can find dirrectly.

The designer is famous in certain circles, he has a great history in motoracing.

There is also a F1 and Le Mans link.

[Christopher]

Alpine of some description......perhaps?

 

[nopanic - neil]

Alpine of some description......perhaps?

 

mmm............................ no

OK - pulled my finger out, and have discovered there is a Matra link

[Barry]

Ginetta G15 Super S?

[nopanic - neil]

Ginetta G15 Super S?

no

try again, while I try and think of more hints, which don't help you to google it   to much   

[Barry]

What's google?

[nopanic - neil]

This car has been at Le Mans, might be the classic 

[Mr. Invincible Mou]

Well, I was just going to have a stab at a Ligier, poss JS2, so has that been in the classic?

[Lorry]

Ligier, poss JS2,

Good effort

But its a JS1

[Mr. Invincible Mou]

 

Yep, I realise that now. Damn Ligier making the JS3 before the JS2, that's what got me. 

[Lorry]

My memory's going, and I usually need a clue.  Its so infuriating when you recognise the shape, but can't remember the name.  I was even looking through the Tour Auto entry lists.

The JS stand for Jo Schlesser, and old friend of Liger who died in 68? at Rouen, when the magnesium air cooled Honda caught fire.  Another reason to dislike Rouen.

The circuit was a road circuit, half way between the cow roundabout and the start of the N138.  Just some nice roads in the countryside.  The pits and grandstand were knocked down a few years ago

[nopanic - neil]

Correct - Ligier JS1

not sure who by, but who ever got it right what colour next?

Good old Wiki

Guy Ligier (born 12 July 1930) is a French former rugby player and racing driver.

He first made his name as a rugby player in the late 1940s when he was working as a butcher's assistant in his home town of Vichy. An orphan, he was determined to build up a successful business and saved all his money in order to buy a bulldozer and then went into the construction business. When his rugby career ended - after he had played for the French national team - he began racing motorcycles before trying his hand at single-seater racing with a Formula Junior Elva.

With motorway construction booming in France, Ligier was able to build a large construction empire and during the period made important friends in local politicians François Mitterrand and Pierre Bérégovoy.

In the late 1960s Guy started racing Porsche sportscars and even raced in F1 with privately-entered Cooper-Maserati and Brabham-Repco machinery. Neither was very successful and so in 1968 Ligier decided to form a partnership with Jo Schlesser and the two bought a pair of McLaren Formula 2 cars. Schlesser was killed that year on his F1 debut at the French Grand Prix, at the wheel of the curious air-cooled Honda F1 car, and Ligier decided he had had enough and retired. He decided that he would build racing cars instead and hired Michel Tetu to design the Ligier JS1, a production sportscar (the initials JS were a tribute to Jo Schlesser). The company was built up in sportscar racing but at the end of 1974 Ligier bought the assets of Matra Sports and embarked on a Formula 1 team. This began racing in 1976 with Jacques Laffite driving. The team became highly-successful in the early 1980s with Laffite, Patrick Depailler and Didier Pironi driving. In 1981 Ligier's old friend François Mitterrand became President of France and when Ligier ran into trouble in 1983 the President ordered that government-owned companies such as Elf, Gitanes and Loto should supply sponsorship.

Ligier also had preferential treatment when it came to engines, political pressure being applied to Renault to force the company to supply the team, which used Renault engines between 1984-86 and in 1992-94.

The Ligier-Mitterrand-Bérégovoy alliance reached its peak in the early 1990s with the reconstruction of the Magny-Cours racing circuit as a new headquarters for Ligier and as a racing circuit to host the French Grand Prix. President Mitterrand and Prime Minister Bérégovoy backed the idea.

In 1992 Ligier realized that the socialist government would not last forever and sold his team to Cyril de Rouvre. He used the money he gained to corner the market in natural fertilizer in central France and set about building another fortune. Within a few months Mitterrand's socialist party was annihilated in the elections and Bérégovoy committed suicide.

Ligier also built a successful business building Ligier micro-cars. The Ligier team eventually came into the ownership of former driver Alain Prost and was renamed Prost Grand Prix.

[Mr. Invincible Mou]

  

In that case I will let Lorry choose the brown ball 

[nopanic - neil]

 

In that case I will let Lorry choose the brown ball 

Good choice, back with a brown one in a min. ................................. hang on that does'nt sound right