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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2006, 09:55:13 am » |
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F1 has been the "business of motor racing" for at least the last 7 or 8 years and probably for a while before that I'd guess.
Are Bernie et al pulling the strings? I honestly don't know but at times it looks very much like it.
They do now run at least one permanent steward at all races (it might even be a permanent team (3) - I can't remember?) so in theory there should be some consistency in the decisions that are made.
Do we know whether the Stewards investigated the Alonso infringement off their own back or whether the red team protested?
I understand there is one permanent steward, one from the local track and a third. The third guy this time was from South America but had suspiciously Italian name! |
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2006, 06:08:57 pm » |
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I understand there is one permanent steward, one from the local track and a third. The third guy this time was from South America but had suspiciously Italian name!
From what I recall during the commentary the third man's first name was Enzo. No connection with a certain Italian racing outfit there then......... |
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2006, 06:13:48 pm » |
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Flavio is now saying that his comments were meant to be a joke.
Sounds like the powers that be, have put the frighteners on him.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2006, 06:37:44 pm » |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5339006.stmNow Alonso has joined the fray. I wonder how many places on the grid this will move him back!
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2006, 07:07:10 pm » |
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of course every other team and driver are the souls of discretion, follow the rules to the letter and don't try to find go fast loop holes  Can't wait for the new season and hear Ron Dennis bitch about Ferrari's new driver, trying it on:D Now, Now. We'll take your toys away children, if you can't play nicely together. |
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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2006, 07:08:44 pm » |
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Now, Now. We'll take your toys away children, if you can't play nicely together.
This is F1 Spidey, are you kidding? |
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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2006, 10:01:08 pm » |
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If its not corrupt, its all very strange. You couldn't afford to bribe Bernie, because he's made so much money out of F1. I can't understand why Ferrari were quick up to 2004, slowed for no apparent reason in 2005, but are quick this year.
Perhaps the deal was "its getting boring - you'll have to let someone else win in 2005 and you can win again in 2006, but you'll have to retire after that." And 2006 went a bit wrong, so the Renaults had to be slowed down, and once Shuey knew he could win he retired.
It seems to fit
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2006, 10:47:53 pm » |
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And since when was a mass damper (ie clever suspension that Renault in particular have used to their advantage this season) a moveable aerodynamic device?
f**k it. Like I said, I'm off to watch professional wrestling. A least that isn't rigged.
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2006, 03:07:25 am » |
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Why doesn't the FIA just make it a single chassis spec formula like CART or IRL? I mean for all intents & purposes that's what its become. For Christ's sake! When your bitching about things like flexing wings, mass damping and have a pressed wooden plank screwed to the underside of the car things have gone plain stupid. Hell, even in NASCAR there's no lumber attached to the cars. As I said before, NASCAR and F1 have become racing for people who don't know anything about racing.
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2006, 09:52:52 am » |
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Why doesn't the FIA just make it a single chassis spec formula like CART or IRL? I mean for all intents & purposes that's what its become. For Christ's sake! When your bitching about things like flexing wings, mass damping and have a pressed wooden plank screwed to the underside of the car things have gone plain stupid. Hell, even in NASCAR there's no lumber attached to the cars. As I said before, NASCAR and F1 have become racing for people who don't know anything about racing.
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2006, 08:00:38 pm » |
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Oh Joy of Joy's This week's Autosport magazine is a bumper edition following Michael Schumacher's retirement announcement at the Italian GP. Along with a photographic tribute, read Martin Brundle's personal and exclusive analysis on the great man, plus all the details of what's next for Ferrari, and the controversy of an enthralling world title battle. Didn't think it warranted a new thread,  |
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2006, 11:12:44 pm » |
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Some of Brundle's thoughts were in The Thunderer today. Not entirely a Schuey fan, is he?
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2006, 06:58:06 am » |
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You mean Martin "I was just as fast as Senna in F3" Brundle?  Doubt your going to hear much positive about Schumacher from any of his former teamates. Except perhaps Irvine, and Brazilian Burst Into Tears Every Ten Minutes. They both seemed quite content to follow Herr Schu around. Fax |
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2006, 02:02:12 pm » |
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You mean Martin "I was just as fast as Senna in F3" Brundle?
Fax you really do sway violently from talking sense to talking utter bolluc*s with alarming unpredictability... The prospect of making F1 a single make category is completely and utterly ridiculous. I was, but am no longer an F1 fan. I do recognise its deficiencies but how on earth would it be possible to generate manufacturer participation in your scenario. The manufacturers would just recreate F1 elsewhere. Brundle/Senna/F3... I spent a great many of my weekends watching that fascinating duel develop. Early season results might suggest otherwise, but the latter half of the season is, in my opinion, a truer reflection of the respective drivers' pace. In F3 he was at least as fast as Senna. |
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2006, 02:39:53 pm » |
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You mean Martin "I was just as fast as Senna in F3" Brundle?
Fax you really do sway violently from talking sense to talking utter bolluc*s with alarming unpredictability... its a common trait on here, just go with the flow |
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