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« on: August 25, 2006, 05:04:30 pm » |
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JCB seem to be intersted in buying Jaguar if ford sells it, see the following http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1857844,00.htmlSo does that mean, JCB would be soon seen on the back of Jags, and does that mean JCB could stand for Jagaur Car Buisness. With there record breaking diesel car, could that mean, JCB/Jaguar could be at Le Mans with a great diesel entry? |
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2006, 06:09:38 pm » |
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It seems to me that the whole story is a load of hydraulics!
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Nordic
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2006, 09:03:52 am » |
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Having a tractor maker as an owner never hurt Aston Martin!
The Bamford family have very strong links to motorsport owning a large collection of classic racer's as well as supporting quite a few teams and drivers so a return to Le Mans would be a possibility.
Lambo have fairly humble orgins as well.
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Some people will tell you that slow is good - and it may be, on some days - but I am here to tell you that fast is better.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2006, 01:48:15 pm » |
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Having a tractor maker as an owner never hurt Aston Martin!
No agreed, but it certainly hurt the tractor maker, David Brown had to sell out to CASE. |
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Nordic
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2006, 02:17:29 pm » |
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Come to think about it, Aston under DB's guidance did'nt flourish for very long either before falling into the clutches of a variety of chancers and ner' do wells.
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Some people will tell you that slow is good - and it may be, on some days - but I am here to tell you that fast is better.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2006, 03:55:40 pm » |
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Chancers and ne'er do wells indeed Nordic, except for the late great Victor Gauntlett, who it has to be said pretty much saved the day single-handedly.
Co-incidentally, wasn't one of the Bamford (JCB) family a founding director of Aston Martin?
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2006, 04:45:07 pm » |
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Chancers and ne'er do wells indeed Nordic, except for the late great Victor Gauntlett, who it has to be said pretty much saved the day single-handedly.
Co-incidentally, wasn't one of the Bamford (JCB) family a founding director of Aston Martin?
The company was registered in 1913 and originally named after its two founders, Bamford and Martin. Whether he was part of the JCB Bamford’s I am not 100% sure, but I think it has to be likely |
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2006, 06:39:04 pm » |
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There is nothing on the JCB web page about any connection between Joseph Bamford, the founder of JCB, and the Bamford who is being linked to Bamford and Martin.
But it is possible. He started JCB in 45 from a garage so it seems possible.
Ahh the late great Mr Gautlett, I think he had a partner with a Greek sounding name and between them they did pull it all together for a while. Even found the money for the Nimrod Grp C car that nearly did so well and started the later AMR/RMR cars as well I think before Ford canned it.
The nimrod was a lovely sounding car, and in the silver and green looked good as well. However it was never going to match the Porsche 956.
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Some people will tell you that slow is good - and it may be, on some days - but I am here to tell you that fast is better.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2006, 06:53:49 pm » |
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There is nothing on the JCB web page about any connection between Joseph Bamford, the founder of JCB, and the Bamford who is being linked to Bamford and Martin.
But it is possible. He started JCB in 45 from a garage so it seems possible.
Ahh the late great Mr Gautlett, I think he had a partner with a Greek sounding name and between them they did pull it all together for a while. Even found the money for the Nimrod Grp C car that nearly did so well and started the later AMR/RMR cars as well I think before Ford canned it.
The nimrod was a lovely sounding car, and in the silver and green looked good as well. However it was never going to match the Porsche 956.
Spot on sound wise Nordic it was indeed beautiful, I saw it and heard it in 1985 I think it was and I think they actually led the race for a very short period during the first hour as a result of some clever early pit stops  |
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2006, 11:30:06 pm » |
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Spot on sound wise Nordic it was indeed beautiful, I saw it and heard it in 1985 I think it was and I think they actually led the race for a very short period during the first hour as a result of some clever early pit stops The Nimrods ran earlier than that, in fact they ceased production in 1983, and last raced at La Sarthe with a fiery exit on Mulsanne in '84 (one car hitting the other which was already on fire). In '85, the EMKA Astons were running, and it was one of these (No 66 - Dow Corning) that led the race for a stunning 9 minutes due to a clever re-fuelling strategy. It eventually finished 11th that year, and was driven by Steve O'Rourke, Nick Faure & Tiff Needell, the same line up as raced the first EMKA car in '83 (they didn't race in '84) EMKA  Nimrod 
Ahh the late great Mr Gautlett, I think he had a partner with a Greek sounding name and between them they did pull it all together for a while.
Mr Gauntlet's partner was a Mr Robin Hamilton - don't know his nationality, but I don't think it was Greek!! Del |
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2006, 09:19:21 am » |
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Mr Gauntlet's partner was a Mr Robin Hamilton - don't know his nationality, but I don't think it was Greek!!
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Hamilton was the main moving force behind the Nimrod, Gauntlet (and others) where partners and it was independent, at first, from the works. His main partner in Aston Martin was a shipping magnet named Livanos His colouful life is recounted here. http://www.users.myisp.co.uk/~climengs/mvgauntlett/mvgauntlett.htmI think we could do with a few more people like him. |
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Some people will tell you that slow is good - and it may be, on some days - but I am here to tell you that fast is better.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2006, 09:59:26 am » |
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Chancers and ne'er do wells indeed Nordic, except for the late great Victor Gauntlett, who it has to be said pretty much saved the day single-handedly.
Co-incidentally, wasn't one of the Bamford (JCB) family a founding director of Aston Martin?
The company was registered in 1913 and originally named after its two founders, Bamford and Martin. Whether he was part of the JCB Bamford’s I am not 100% sure, but I think it has to be likely The date is right, but as I understand it the Aston Martin company name came from a combination of its founder, Lionel Martin, and the name of the village in Buckinghamshire, Aston Clinton, where he competed in hillclimbs with the first car that he built. MG Mark |
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2006, 10:05:55 am » |
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The founder of JCB, Joseph Cyril, was born around 1913 and had no connection with motor sports when he set up the company so the connection is unlikely.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2006, 10:12:13 am » |
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the Aston Martin company name came from a combination of its founder, Lionel Martin, and the name of the village in Buckinghamshire, Aston Clinton I knew it, I just knew it!! That old Clinton Lionel rusting away at the back of my garage must be worth a fortune now. H |
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2006, 10:20:00 am » |
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The date is right, but as I understand it the Aston Martin company name came from a combination of its founder, Lionel Martin, and the name of the village in Buckinghamshire, Aston Clinton, where he competed in hillclimbs with the first car that he built. MG Mark MG, I think (but only think) that is not quite right, but nearly is. My understanding is that the Aston part of the name came from the fact that the hill climb hill was called Aston hill and can in fact be found just outside the village of Wendover. I dare say however the hill itself was named after Aston Clinton which is about four/five miles away.  |
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