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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 10:50:14 pm » |
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I'd need to see the gearstick, and silver would be better but I'd pay 350K.
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neilsie
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2006, 11:07:59 pm » |
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dunno... the warranty sounds a bit poor: 1 year and no rust protection!
Basic Warranty: 1 Year/Unlimited Miles
Powertrain: 1 Year/Unlimited Miles
Rust-through: N/A
i'll swap it for mine + a couple of crates of Verve Click...
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2006, 11:30:18 pm » |
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Huh! Honda Civic headlights - cheap gits. I'll stick with the Suburban.
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If it\'s good and fast, it won\'t be cheap. If it\'s fast and cheap, it won\'t be good. If it\'s good and cheap, it won\'t be fast.
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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 09:22:29 am » |
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I always stay too long. Long enough for something to go wrong
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2006, 09:42:42 am » |
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if you are going to buy a gold car off ebay make it a HUMBER  |
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Andy Zarse
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 11:27:16 am » |
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It's difficult to know what to make of something produced by such an unknown quantity as the Ultimate. I've no doubt that they've thought it all through very carefully but to claim it's absolutely stable at 273mph smacks to me of nonsense. A look at the gearing ratios chosen is quite enlightening. 1st to 5th go up in nice 35-45mph increments. Shifting up to 6th means 100mph spread to the theoretical top speed. Now that is not what I call a close ratio box!!
If this thing is so wonderful then one wonders why they are having to advertise it on eBay, the spiritual home of the cheapskate, jus for the so-called "publicity". Good luck to them, I'll be first to congratulate them if they can rub VAG's nose in it by trouncing the Bugatti at Wolfsburg, but personally I can't see they have the faintest chance.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2006, 12:14:17 pm » |
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A bit like the DB9 that claims to be able to do over 200mph. Fifth Gear tested it on a runway two miles long but it was unable to get there!
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Andy Zarse
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2006, 12:53:15 pm » |
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Setting aside the fact that the DB9 is supposed to be a gentleman's GT car and not a hotrod, Rick, and indeed the syntactical suicide in your suggesting the car itself is claiming the top speed, where on earth did this supposed VMAX of 200 mph come from? The offical performance figures stated by Aston Martin put the top speed of the roadgoing DB9 as 186mph, a figure I'm perfectly prepared to accept as true.
Anyway just because a vehicle can't reach a particular speed on a two mile runway does not necessarily mean it's not capable of that speed given a longer run. The slightest consideration of the length used to accelerate, then brake and also allow for a sensible margin of error and I guess you're left with not much over a mile in top gear. Coinsider then that at near VMAX the vehicle is covering a mile every twenty seconds and anyone with half a brain can see that two miles total length is woefully inadequate.
Also, where is this supposed two mile runway? Even the JCB diesel land speed car is currently practicing at RAF Wittering which has a 1.6 mile of blacktop. I was led to believe this was the longest in the UK, so where has a two mile straight?
Once more it's sloppy journalism and wooly thinking masquerading as fact by an increasingly hopeless Fifth Gear .
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2006, 01:06:39 pm » |
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It was not aimed to knock Fifth gear or the car, If I had the money I would an Aston.
Basically most cars top speed is not easy to reach unless you have a lot of open road. I drove my van home on sunday down the M4 past Reading and cruised with the other motors at around 100-115mph. I recon that it took me over 5miles to get there!
I would love to know how much open road you need to achieve terminal velocity.
"Andy we know that terminal velocity in the commer is reached a lot faster then most other CA members cars".
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2006, 01:10:43 pm » |
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where on earth did this supposed VMAX of 200 mph come from? The offical performance figures stated by Aston Martin put the top speed of the roadgoing DB9 as 186mph, a figure I'm perfectly prepared to accept as true.
I believe you are correct however I remember hearing that it was Aston's first 200mph car. Anyway just because a vehicle can't reach a particular speed on a two mile runway does not necessarily mean it's not capable of that speed given a longer run. The slightest consideration of the length used to accelerate, then brake and also allow for a sensible margin of error and I guess you're left with not much over a mile in top gear. Coinsider then that at near VMAX the vehicle is covering a mile every twenty seconds and anyone with half a brain can see that two miles total length is woefully inadequate.
Agree. Also, where is this supposed two mile runway? Even the JCB diesel land speed car is currently practicing at RAF Wittering which has a 1.6 mile of blacktop. I was led to believe this was the longest in the UK, so where has a two mile straight?
Not sure but Greenham Common used to have over 2 miles of runway. How long is the runway at Marham? |
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2006, 01:15:32 pm » |
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..... I drove my van home on sunday down the M4 past Reading and cruised with the other motors at around 100-115mph. I recon that it took me over 5miles to get there!
You can expect a handfull of NIPs from Thames Valley Police through your letter box any time soon then! BTW, I would not consider 100-115mph to be "cruising". More likely you were reaming the arse off the VW - is it still for sale? |
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2006, 01:20:17 pm » |
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Rick I wasn't having a go at the DB9 but obviously at Fifth Gear which comes out with some terrible crap in my opinion. Trying to break a top speed which doesn't exist on a runway shorter than it actually is described deserves all the brickbats that get hurled at it.
Who claimed it was Astons 200mph car? I very much doubt it was actually Aston Martin. Seeing as the Vanquish was out first and is a genuine 200mph+ car, why would Aston then release another car priced £50,000 cheaper with the same performance?
Greenham I think is now covered in houses/indusrial units! Marham, from memory is 1.45 miles, MG Mark could verify this?
You could be right about the Commer but unfortunately the max speed is only 65 which takes about forty odd seconds. That's the whole problem with statistics, knowing how to interpret them!
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2006, 01:25:47 pm » |
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..... I drove my van home on sunday down the M4 past Reading and cruised with the other motors at around 100-115mph. I recon that it took me over 5miles to get there!
You can expect a handfull of NIPs from Thames Valley Police through your letter box any time soon then! BTW, I would not consider 100-115mph to be "cruising". More likely you were reaming the arse off the VW - is it still for sale? Not to mention a hefty fine and a three month period of quiet reflection whilst cycling to work for the duration. Why would you want to go that speed in such a vehicle, it can't be very pleasant can it? Surely 115mph in a VW van with a side awning surely cannot be deemed to be safe? |
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2006, 01:27:27 pm » |
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I would love to know how much open road you need to achieve terminal velocity.
Quite a way methinks.. on the payage in france i got up to 165 on my R1 in no time but it creeped to 175.. and at that speed its about 4 footy pitches a second!! the same with the motor.. a 2.5 v6 galant estate auto (fully loaded with camping stuff).. creeped up to 139 eventually (verified by the following RX8) twice on the way to LM this year.. all these runway tests are a bit hit and miss... Andy  |
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