DVLA Plans - This is serious

[Lorry]

.........and I'll take you out in my 4.7 Litre V8 1960 Zodiac.

You were making sense up till then!

[Steve TTTD]

It makes perfect sense to me...
It'll make even more sense when the 5.8 litre supercharged Chevrolet engine is in it...

Yes JP, It will be built to cope... Tube Chassis, new brakes and suspension all round and a lot of Drag Racing knowledge going int the build...

But, under the proposals it would fail because it have the original dashboard switches and lots of other stuff that the SVa doesn't like...

[Fran]

my cobra is a Q - but that doesn't mean I have leprosy as well

Pleased to hear that Steve.... not so sure about discovering i might have been belting round the track wrapped in nothing more than a handful of mismatched nuts n bolts inside a fibreglass shell tho!  - thank heavens for the sticky back on the iguana....

Just kidding ya of course - tis a thing of wondrous beauty and mechanical excellence 

P.S.  glad to see you didnt source a pic of a leper for this one

[Robbo SPS]

Surely such changes would require a government / parliment agreement ?

I like the idea, if its as simple as JP origionally put, but would too but upset to see old classics un-restorable, but i think that maybe a little harsh.

Only time will tell.

[Steve TTTD]

There's the point Robbo, at the moment they are DVLA plans, which move to a green paper, then a white paper, then, with government approval become law.
That's why the major campaign is going on now to get them changed to allow the practice of modifying you own car to continue. Which was the purpose of my first posting, to alert people who may not have been aware of the proposals.

Unfortunately we can't 'wait and see what happens', if we do we lose...

[smokie]

They are using Statutory Instruments to pass a lot of legislation these days. It circumvents the need for "proper" discussion and enables legislation to be passed virtually "on the nod".

Or at least that's what I read some time ago somewhere...

[Lorry]

They are using Statutory Instruments......

God, are you all lawyers (clearly not defamation experts)

I've spoken to my Rallying friends who have no fear of the SVA:

1  Their Escort Mk 2s are Jersey registered and hence do not even need an MOT.  These are not sheds and probably worth £20k each.
2  Prodrive base their rally cars on an official grey import.  They are immediately SVAed and when converted are SVAed again, presumably as most get sold.  They have one rear fog light which the move from car to car whilst the inspector watches.

[Steve TTTD]

Lorry,
So what you appear to be saying is that all road rally cars are Jersey registered?
How long before that loophole is closed?

[Lorry]

No.  A lucky few have relatives/homes in Jersey, where the law is different, and can register there cars there and avoid the MOT & SVA etc, probably Gatso fines too.  The rest of us will have to comply with the law.

I wonder how long it will take for someone to set up some sort of dodge based on this.

[Steve TTTD]

The 'dodges' are rapidly being closed off.
The proposed law, as it's framed makes it incrediblly hard to pass SVA with anything that wasn't built afeter SVA was thought of.

[BigH]

Are you seriously suggesting that legislation will be passed that will wipe out this countries classic car industry overnight?
You've got to be joking, half of the people that run the country also run classics as well as the restoration industry providing jobs in their constituencies.
Absolutely no chance.

[Lorry]

Got it in one

If we're going to march on London in protest, I'm already there. And its illegal to protest within 1 mile of the commons - another bit of legislation that we missed.

[Steve TTTD]

Are you seriously suggesting that legislation will be passed that will wipe out this countries classic car industry overnight?
You've got to be joking, half of the people that run the country also run classics as well as the restoration industry providing jobs in their constituencies.
Absolutely no chance.

 I'm not suggesting that the restoration industry would be wiped out overnight.
 The restoration industry would continue as normal, Providing that the restorations are not re-shelled, or use a new body on an old chassis or
vice versa, and are restored with parts current at the time of manufacture, and are not updated in any way with modern parts, (Engines, drivetrain, axles
etc)

 A 1965 Lotus Elan, restored using refurbished or NOS parts is OK
 A 1965 Lotus Elan restored using one of the new chassis available, which uses a Ford Zetec engine and a five speed gearbox from the factory would
lose it's identity and therefore it's reg and be liable to SVA, see my previous posts about why it would fail.

An MG (One of the most commonly restored cars )with a BMH Heritage shell would also be in danger of being SVA'd

[BigH]

Steve,
I bet you fifty quid I'll get an MOT on my car next June with no SVA strings attached.
H

[Steve TTTD]

Your car is what H?