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« on: May 31, 2014, 11:45:35 am » |
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How can it be that the Guide was downloaded over 2000 times but only had £142 in donations (yes one hundred and forty two pounds!!!) from 16 people (according to the 2013 guide)?
Given the cost of going to Le Mans you would have thought that the guide was worth more than the price of a beer.
Maybe there should be a free version with a big watermark across it saying "no donation given yet" and one without available after a donation was given however small.
Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2014, 01:15:44 pm » |
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Thoughts?
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Initial: How 'bout a link to donation... |
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2014, 01:31:50 pm » |
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Jim, Good idea, it's the page before the download, here it is, available for past year donations too! http://www.clubarnage.com/caguide/ |
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2014, 03:16:44 pm » |
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Funnily enough, I have just this morning checked the equivalent page for this year's guide.
The number of people and the amount donated has not materially altered for several years.
Werner and I have discussed this issue many times, and have always concluded that the heavy hand would not be politic, nor can we be seen to be 'selling' the guide for a number of reasons.
So we just have to accept that there are a lot of tight-ar**d folk out there. I actually quite enjoy updating the sections I look after - keeps me up-to-date, and is not an onerous task. Werner is the one who puts in the most effort, especially at this time of the year, and I suspect that he also enjoys the task!!
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2014, 04:03:48 pm » |
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I, personally, have not used it but I shall make my contribution forthwith. A hearty thank you to those involved in it's production.  |
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2014, 07:48:13 pm » |
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I must admit to not making donations either. But I have made the odd contribution to the publication.
It is a great guide - the best.
I must also admit to not downloading every year either. But I always take a glance if a copy is available.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2014, 11:52:25 pm » |
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As Del already wrote, I'm putting many days of work into it, especially in the last days before the publication (I go for Wednesday, 4th June now for this year). But I like it, it's fun and has become a fixed part of my pre-Le Mans routine, it's the 9th Guide already. And doing it I'm probably the only one who has the entry list fully memorized  Pity so few people donate - but that won't keep me away from compiling the next one. Werner |
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2014, 11:33:15 am » |
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Del, Werner,
I understand, and the trouble with the web is that folk think that it's all free, but even Wikipedia needs a donation to keep it going once in a while.
I suspect that many of the people who download the guide are well intentioned and in the midst of getting ready, may overlook the payment. There will be others who don't have PayPal and consider doing a bank transfer quite onerous.
I wonder if people had more incentive then they would give over some money.
Perhaps something simple like redrafting of the redirect page and suggesting that it is worth the price of a beer, and even saying that you have this "labour of love, but...".
I think that the section "On the run - Escaping the traffic at the end of the race" is worth the value of a beer in its own right.
Perhaps a bit of text saying "if you have used this route and saved yourself hours of frustration in a traffic jam, perhaps you would consider a contribution once you are home and thinking about your trip".
Hmmm.... I think I may have found a new job. I'll have a go at drafting a redirect page and fire it over for your thoughts.
The alternative of course is sponsorship, but that's a slippery slope.....
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2014, 03:42:41 pm » |
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2014, 08:27:08 pm » |
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You can't download the guide because it's not ready yet. When it is, I'll download it and, at the same time make a contribution FS! |
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