Road pricing!

[nopanic - neil]

What a stupid govenment, tax us off the road so the rich and companys can afford to drive around London.

Read this;

Sign and pass it on. it only takes a minute.

The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to
purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it.
The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC,
the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery
driver.
A non working Mum who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in
one month.
On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will
know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been
going, so even if you accidentally creep over the speed limit you can expect a
NIP with your monthly bill.
If you care about our freedoms and stopping the constant bashing of the car
driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/

Whats other people's view.

Can I get paddy to register my cars in Holland? He could make enough money to rent all of MB site.

[termietermite]

I'm still not clear what advantage this has over taxing fuel - except to give more  jobs to civil servants.  Obviously, I'm dim and am missing something.

[Lawnmower Man]

I'm still not clear what advantage this has over taxing fuel

There is no advantage.

Basic it's just to complete the set.

You earn money.  They tax it.
You spend money.They tax it.
Having paid tax on the money you earned to buy the car and pay the tax on that purchase.  You have to pay tax on the owning of the car. 

Then if you want to use the car you pay a tax on that too. 

The fuel is totaly separate.    I mean you may not use the fuel in your car.  I use petrol in the mower.  But I still have to pay the tax.

May be I'll get a bigger mower and use it for shopping and so on. 

I wonder how Tony got to Florida or where ever he went for his Xmas break.  Did he pay the airport tax?
How much did he pay to use the Queens Plane?

Can I rent the Queens Plane?

P1553D OFF from reading.

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[Paddy_NL]

We had the same study here in Holland a few years ago. Believe me, it's not gonna work. Too sesitive for fraude, and too much a complicated system. How many cars are there in Britain, 15 mil? They can never track all of them per done miles.
It might be nice for a company owner to know what his vehicles have been up to for a sertain period, but a tracking device on this many vehicles will become too complicated.

I don't believe an upgrade of taxes on fuel really helps to get people out of their car either, and public transport is still not a logic replacement for everybody.

Can I get paddy to register my cars in Holland? He could make enough money to rent all of MB site.

Sure, next year's plan is already on the drawing board, and it's gonna cost some!

[Lorry]

I came across asystem 5 years ago where delivery vans were tracked, the idea being that the computer could devise shorter routes.  It worked but wasn't a lot of use, except one van was found to go off route to a park every lunchtime so that the driver could go jogging, horizontal jogging that is.

We thought that the congestion charge cameras would overload the computers but they didn't - be warned. 

But why can Paddy drive around London for free when I can't, and sod the mower, its the tax on the petrol in all of those generators we ought to complain about.

As for public transport, did you hear the joke on TV the other night.  A cheap return ticket on the train from London to Glasgow is £98.20.  You can fly to Barcelona for £40.  So if you want to see someone in Glasgow, you both fly to Barcelona, and you have £18.20 to spend on Sangria

[redstu]

I've signed it (and another one against the sellers HIP packs for house sales).

its just another ridiculous over engineered government plan that will come in years late at 3 times the original cost and not work properly, the only beneficiaries will be the companies that get the lucrative contracts.

Whats wrong with the simple system currently in place?

The rest of the site is also interesting , if you have a few spare minutes.

[nopanic - neil]

This still needs to be sign, reading the papers at the weekend they at aiming at 1,000,000 signatures!

Which would bring a smile to Tony Blair, if you where to put it  where his sun does not shine.