Club Arnage

As Mike Liverpool has stated a lot of people are giving Le Man a miss this year, so if you are one of those please add to this thread.

I am giving it a miss this year as it is always my Birthday while there, so am spending a Birthday with my family, then flying off for a bit of Menorcan sun.

The rest of The boys will be attending as usual and I am sure that I will miss the trip more than I think.

Shame you're not going to make it Peter, now who's gonna keep those rowdy types in check on Sunday evening on HA?

80% I won't be there. Mrs has been on at me for a few years about having a "together" holiday around that time and we just found a cruise - albeit early May, but with Sebring in March, time from work is becoming a bit of a premium. I'd like to also have some left for later in the year!!

The cruise isn't booked yet, and anyway I may drop by for a long weekend (probably early part!) if finances and holiday entitlements allow...

We're not going this year:

1.   it's become too much hassle to get a block of pitches on a decent site without using an agency. 

2.   we're moving and building an extension so we've got lots to do.

3.  Leaving new puppy dog with Dad for 10 days is a bit too much so it'll be pup friendly camping trips for this year

Me too, sniff.....
I've, rather foolhardily if you ask me, accepted an invite to take part in a race that starts with swimming from Alcatraz Island to the mainland. It appears to get worse after that. Entries are quite hard to get, so turning it down would seem a little churlish.
I think it's an early start, so it'll probably be around kick off time at La Sarthe too. A Silk Cut Jaguar swim hat anyone?
H
PS Mark, any unguents left?

Me. I will not be there this year as my parents will be moving to france for 6months in May ( as the euro is so poor it wont be permanent! ) so my financial responsibility lie at home. I am how ever having a long ish weekend away back to the nurburgring in my friends car in April so i do get away this year.

I am disappointed i wont be there but i really dont see this year being good at all.

We will be there...

Cheers Brian. Its starting to look like Le Mans will have a different feel to it this year.

Those of us who are going will just have to make extra noise and drink extra beer for the absent CA'rs  ::)

We're hoping for good tv coverage  ;D   Not sure the neighbours will be very impressed with our plans for the weekend  ;D

You could hook in the Radio Le Mans commentary, if you conect a PC to the Hi Fi

Has anyone any idea who has the TV coverage this year?  I'm getting lazy/too drunk to walk, so a bit of TV for the practice and the middle of the night would be handy

After 11 years on the trot I've decided to have a year off for a change......plus with the ACO corporatizing everything .....it  seems to make the place less hospitable than it used to be :(

I will be there, can anyone one help out the team  ( as above)

steve

I'll be up to my ears in work on the barn,  and taking time out will just put us further and further back.

Next year I'll probably do the classic, if the place is finished,and maybe Sebring in '10, if I behave....

So it's a no from me in '09

I think it's Eurosport again.  We got Eurosport OK in MB for the Classic with a mobile sat dish and a skybox. 

Good call on the radio, LM wouldn't be LM without Hindy, might have to upgrade the wireless network to work in the garden  ;D

Eurosport's contract is for 2008 to 2010.

Last year's transmission schedule, on Eurosport and Eurosport2:

Wednesday 11th June
1800-2000 Qualifying Session 1 Live

Thursday 12th June
2100-2300 Qualifying Session 4 Live

Saturday 14th June
0730-0800 Qualifying Highlights
0800-0845 Warm-Up
0900-1000 Group C Legends
13.30 Full race coverage

Sunday 15th June
Race until 14.15

(local time)

Saturday from 13:30 ... Full race coverage.

Sunday .... Race until 14:15.

Am I being a bit thick or does this contradict itself?

What is the point of not showing the last 45 minutes of the race?

Errr, maybe that (local time) refers to UK local time Bob? Which woud mean coverage till 15:15 CET. ;)

Ah-haa good call Marius. Si it was me being a bit thick ::)

       
           Been off the site for quite a while,just logged on ,

             judging by the length of this thread,Tickets and

            camping should'nt be a problem,Maybe the ACO will

             soon be offering discounts for us to buy tickets

dum, dadum, dadumdadumdadum

dum, dadum, dadumdadumdadum

Always look on the bright side of life

dadum dadumdadumdadum


BUT

life's a piece of....

I'm hoping but not sure yet!

so I dont have any promises to make

all rather discomknockerating really...

bill

 :(

Not going this year.

We both decided last year that we weren't really enjoying the Le Mans experience as much.  The racing is great - but it is becoming a hassle.

That decision has been reinforced with both of us working in the unstable construction industry and the weak pound making everything 40% more expensive.

After 5 years straight, i'll be giving it a miss as well. Did still like it last year, and I am pretty sure, come June I will be knocking my head against the wall for not going. Having said that, my contract ends next year and I will have to find a new job, that in combination with recently purchasing a house made me decide to leave it alone for a while :-[ Ohhh yeah, almost forgot I have to finish my PhD this year as well

Looks like a no for me as well, I have business start up plans (not great timing, but no worse than trolling around trying to find a job with someone elses company which could go bust anyhow) and also young Brad gets married on the 30th May (very poor timing) so he is very unlikely to go.
One good thing, CostCo, ture to their word, refunded the cost of the genny that destroyed its self last year, so I bought one of their current range which is quiter and has more outlets, electronic ignition ect, so it may make an appereence with the SPS crew.

Sorry to hear that you can't make it Ian it will be strange being at Le Mans and not seeing you there but then everyone has to make a living.

As for Brad, now that's a different story. WTF was he thinking about arranging a wedding so close to the big weekend. Sounds to me as if the big thumb is coming down already, and that's before he gets hitched. What next? No more drinking with the boys? "No you can't go to the football I need a new frock"

Oh dear Oh dear, another good man gone wrong.

Could be worse, at least he gets the wedding aniversery out the way every year before the pilgrimage .

I *do* hope that those who aren't going will still be eligible for the planning meetings...and that they will make extra effort to attend ???

I certanly hope to assit in planning, I might even bring the Grumpy git from Hordle as well ;D ;D ;D

Good man yes but I'm afraid he went wrong many years ago. I blame the father.....

.....and I blame his mother......

Following the birth of my daughter on monday (at 5.17am and weighing 8oz 2lbs - just in case you're interested) my wife's hormones do not seem to have diminished as she still seems to believe I'm not going this year! I have 5 months to turn her back to the light side!!!

Hey Congratulations Mr Robspot and Mrs Robspot, sounds like theres a requirement for planning meeting to plan the young ones future ;D ;D ;D ;D

Thanks! I believe a planning meeting is extremely vital for the future of my young one!

Absolutly, need to make it earlier rather than later to ensure we have a full south coast squad.

Ah.. there you are! Your Phone appears to be broken but the PC obviously Isn't ;)

Planning meeting sounds like a wonderful idea... we can plan how you can persuade Mrs Spot to let you attend in June.

Congratulations from us too on the new additon.

The Pig Pens

Short notice I know but is anyone free tomorrow night? Mama Spot is in hospital until thursday so I can stay out as late as I want (well until 11 :) )

Robspot,

Many congratulations to you and the lovely wife.

Rob,

congratulations!!!

Sorry Brian, I won't be able to make it this year.  Will just be getting back from 3 weeks touring Alaska in a motorhome with my wife and Larry and his wife.  So, the funds will be gone.  I hope to watch it on Speedtv though.  Hope everyone going has a great time for those of us that can't make it. 

the meeting needs to be this week or next, no later for me ???
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I cant do tonite due to having a ramp booked to fix Steve Zarse's cracked sump. Sorry dude but its gotta come off tonite to be welded tomorrow.
Will catch up soon.
PP

I might have known Steven would ruin it for everyone. What sort of idiot cracks their sump?

What about next wednesday then?

Thats cool. I will put it in the Diary!! Lady PP will be able to attend too.

PP

I cant do tonite due to having a ramp booked to fix Steve Zarse's cracked sump. Sorry dude but its gotta come off tonite to be welded tomorrow.
Will catch up soon.
PP
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Blimey Rex.  I've been waiting ages for you to get my car sorted, and Steve comes along one day with a cracked sump and jumps the queue.   :'(

Dx

Oh, and Congratulations Robspot and Mrs Robspot! 

Dx

Congrats  Mr & Mrs  Robspot!!

t.

Congratulations Robspot and Mrs Robspot.

Next Wednesday should be OK for me, how about the Thomas Tripp in Christchurch or the Rising Sun (good food irc)

Are you lot done talking about me?

Firstly.  The Wedding.  It's the best POSSIBLE date.  It might screw this year up, but it is 2 clear weeks away for anniversaries in the future. 
It is also JUST outside the football season, so I will never get stiched for a playoff final (although the FA cup final might throw a spanner in the works - but I've never thought we'd get anywhere near to winnning that anyway).

So - for me this year will be all about the short term pain, for the long term gain..... trust me, I had to plan it meticulously.

Secondly, I didn't go wrong until I met a group of blokes who like to put an alternative word to bottom at the end of their names, and then yes, it all went wrong.

<takes bow>

Anyway - Congratulations Mr and Mrs Spot.  Sorry I can't come down for a planning meeting during the week - but I'll be sure to raise a glass in honour of full stop...... (boom boom :)

Good planning Brad, wedding aniverseries in June are a bad idea, costs a lot of extra brownie points.

Don't forget be very very careful in September and October, kids birthdays in June are also a BIG problem. ;)

Congratulations to Mr & Mrs R, may your joy of your offspring always exceed the hole they put in your finances. :)

Indeed great congratulations to Mr and Mrs Robspot

just think, it's downhill all the way now

 ;)

Still unsure but not betting on getting away this year

so I'll prolly be a warm stubby beers in the garden with radio LM and the telly

thank the Lord for MotorsTV and Eurosport

but I will miss winding up Tiff Needell at the barbie (unless he comes round our house to interview me, "the alternative Le Mans!) on Saturday night...

Now who sells the cheapest average champagne round here?

Thanks for all the congratulations guys. I've been sleeping (well mainly drinking) really well as the girls are in hospital but that's all going to change tomorrow  :o

You'll notice that I timed it perfectly as there is nothing happening in January so nothing to cause a problem! I very nearly ended up divorced in September 2007 as despite the fact we had been trying for a baby for about 3 years I refused to have sex with my wife for the whole month just in case she got pregnant. Maybe that's where her current dislike for Le Mans comes from  ;D

Congrats Robspot...and nice timing!

You have Pm. PP

Rubbish... its the state you come home from LM in and having pikeys with a trailor full of shite turn up 3 weeks late to collect their bikes. Same again this June... go on... you know you wanna!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Claire has got Grace Brethren Walston a present! ;D

For those not on Facebook....

rofl  ;D

Congratulations to you and Mrs Robspot.

Congratulations to you both, or should that be to you three? That is a picture of a proud man.

Congrats Mr. and Mrs. Robspot.

From all at Turn 10 Sebring.

Randy

CONGRATULATIONS Mr. and Mrs. Robspot on your lovely addition!

well done Rob and wife :)

congratulations!!

Adding to the growing list, well done Mr and Mrs and the little 'un!

MG Mark

Brad you are expelled from Team Zarse forthwith.  :(

H, you are expelled from Team... erm, hang on...

Crikey that doesn't sound like a bundle of laughs! God alone knows what you've done to be incarcerated on Alcatraz and if fable is to be believed nobody has ever managed to swim the Straight and escape. I mean, Burt Lancaster never made it did he, and even resorted to training a flock of sparrows to fly him across. I think you'd be better off crawling down the shitpipe a la Shawshank or even doing a Steve McQueen in Papilion and conceal a sack of coconuts down your trunks. Even if you drown it will look great when the State Coroner's photographer turns up to take the official inquest shots.

You're going to regret this decision I think, but assuming there's no talking you out of it, then I cannot recommend the products of Dr Whites highly enough. Oh and mind the sealions too, they're viscious little f**k*rs.

H,

Missed the PS earlier. You mad fool.  You'll be lucky on unguents mate, you slathered the world's supply over your backside on that last little jaunt to La Sarthe; it will be some years before a sustainable supply is available once more.  That said, I understand that emollients, creams, oils, ointments, tinctures, balms, lubricants and oils are in plentiful supply to achieve the desired demulcent effect upon your posterior.  However, as combined treatments, rather than the convenient "one-shot" extreme unction and unguent mix, I warn you now that it will need a large lorry to cart the stocks behind you and a large medical support team to adminster the necessary.............

MG Mark

Yes indeed, congrats to the robspots. Apart from the sleepless nights, raw sewage and never ending expense, it's a marvellous thing. Chapeaux!!

Thanks Mark, - I'm under moral pressure to go all green regarding the unguents, in fact I think I did go green in some areas for a while after the last batch. Anyway, as sustainability seems to be the way forward these days, I thought I'd try someones suggestion of goosefat. I'm not too sure exactly what you do with it though, - I imagine lathering it around the toilet area would be quite good fun, and would help while away any quiet afternoons.  I think I remember reading that under the arms is meant to be a good place, but that sounds more like advice for the goose, I mean, I'm not flying for godsakes. After some thought, I think I'll just rub it in my head and go for a killer side parting that should last me till christmas. And where do you get goose fat these days? - apart from geese, obviously.

Andy, I haven't been expelled from anything (or anyone) for quite sometime now, - my team has just sort of evaporated this year, and there's just a sickly sweet residue left in the bottom of the tin. The coconuts idea sounds like a cracking plan, in fact a general selection of tropical fruit and veg should go a long way to making the coroners day, should the punk be feeling lucky. It has to be said though, there's not a lot of room in my budgie smugglers...

Once the sea temps are into double figures I'll be starting my open water training down in Worthing, - come June it'll be about 11 in SF Bay, - a bit parky if you ask me. There's also a gravel pit near Staines (I've always been amused that Staines is very near to Feltham, -I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere, I just can't get it out), that calls itself a water sports centre, that will let swimmers in from 6 till 7.30am. Bewilderingly, it's been empty for a while now. It had ice on it this morning, even the geese were keeping well off.

H

mmmmm, goose fat you say. Always prefered Duck fat personally- less spreadable but longer lasting. I think I'd be tempted to use tractor grease myself- it leaves a trail of pretty colours which the Coastguard will be able to follow when cracking out the dredging nets. Probably less attractive to the pallets of the Sharks too.
 On the subject of Balms can anyone recommend something for the Jock Itch that I have been suffering of late? Too much wet weather cycling, saddle sore has mutated into something much more sinister- looks like a glorified atheletes foot but in the nether regions, not a pleasant thought for a Tuesday afternoon granted but even more unpleasant to have around the crown jewels thats for sure.

Si

Dr S,
I assume that this complaint is not under your umbrella of professional experience.

I've had experience of "the umbrella", and I can confirm it was one I wouldn't want to repeat in any hurry. Notwithstanding that, in order for me to make a full and proper diagnosis you would of course need to post a couple of pics, - similar to the ones you usually need to send to your Classic insurers, - you know the score: one from the front, front and rear three quarters, under the bonnet, and so on.

But I'm not unprepared to stick my neck out. By far the best solution is "torching", where you apply a gas burner until the surface kind of caramelises, - if you've ever seen a chef preparing a creme brulee you'll know exactly what I mean. Granted, it's not very pleasant, and it will make your eyes water, but you'll never have to worry about jock itch ever again. Amongst other things.

A poultice of Fiery Jack (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100001046.html) and Mad Daves Chilli sauce (http://www.chilliworld.com/SP6.asp?p_id=41), applied as autumn approaches and left until the daffodils start poking their heads up will normally sort things out also. As above, the list of things you are left to worry about afterwards is relatively challenged. Any kind of carnal activities, family hopes or waste removal are right out, however, most patients see this as a bonus.

Hope this helps.

H (struck off, 1993)

Congratulations to you and eridoorz

The problem with goose fat is again one of supply, given that avian flu and last Christmas decimated the goose population.  Even Nigella had to use duck fat, which is a poor substitute, and you should note if applying the caramelised blow torch treatment advocated, that duck fat has a particualrly high burn point.  Beef dripping would be a possibility, but given your need to establish truly green credentials for this jaunt, I have identified just the stuff.  Organic Ghee is a clarified butter made from the fresh organic milk of cow’s grazing on natural organic pastures, loaded with essential fatty acids, which have potent antimicrobial and anti-oxidant properties and rich in Vitamins A,D,E & K, plus selenium for that added boost.  It is stable when heated with a high smoking point, which makes it very unlikely to be damaged by heat and apparently it doesn't produce free radicals either.  Idela I'd say!

MG Mark   

Ah yes, our old friend Scrub Pox! Creamy-white, smooth, mucoid-fluidal colonies have infected your nether area, Simon. External symptoms observed are usually sunken and cracked areas, and a brown cheesy decay surrounding pustulous running sores. A sour smelling bacterial ooze is expressed when such areas are squeezed. You need to sort this out immediately, a neglected pox is not all beer and skittles - beer, indeed, is to be strictly avoided, as are sweaty frictious sports such as cycling. Your worry must be that the gonococks will head south-west into your prize veg with sad consequences and simply to walk around the house you'll need to wear a special elasticated suspender around your turgid old chap. And even then...

Thus I'd have thought a long time sufferer and carrier of the "ring rot family" of bacteria should know better than to suggest "torching". BigH is a latter day "Typhoid Mary" of the ring rot world, a sort of "Epstein-Barr Virus Harry".

No, this matter needs a little care when being treated; mark my words, Manuka honey is the answer. And just to balance the pH of course, one needs to add something to cut through the sweetness, such as tart lemon juice or maybe white vinegar. Gently apply the concoction to the infected area with a wire brush (a soft one such as used for cleaning your suede winklepickers, not the one from your workshop). Then the area must be covered in something impervious, and I like the idea of Mark's beef dripping, although swan fat if most efficatious. Cover with a tight rubber bandage and leave for two months; you'll be right as rain you'll see, or my names not Dr Hilary Jones off of GMTV.

Hate to drag this back on topic, but I wonder if the numbers not attending from CA this year are representative of the whole British contingent? If so, I wonder if the ACO will notice the shortfall, and whether they may put some thought into why people are less keen to go. More likely, they'll just put it down to the credit crunch.

(I'm making a bit of an assumption here, which is that those people who have simply decided that they "aren't going to bother this year" or who have "something else on" would normally have made damn sure that they didn't have something else on at Le Mans time, had we not suffered the continual rogering from the ACO)

Yep Smokie, the main reason for us not going is the continual hassle of getting decent camping tickets and the inability to do anything about it other than use an agency.  The ACO clearly use some kind of "time served" system for allocating tickets and without a time machine to take me back 15 years I can't do anything to achieve anything other than BSJ. 

 
They're doomed I tell you, DOOMED!
Nothing a chilli and poultice and bunsen burner wouldn't put right though.
I haven't had my allocation letter yet, but no doubt I'll have 2 pitches next to a latrine just north of Mare Imbrium. (there'll still be a tw*t in a TVR nearby revving the nuts off it at 3:00am though, I bet)
H

Well to be fair it's probably mostly the credit crunch and the unfavourable exchange rate that is keeping the British contingent away.
The campsites are sold-out and so are most of the grandstands, sure there will be a drop in attendance this year but the French not attending will probably hurt more.

Still so many die-hards from CA staying away makes me wonder how many casual fans will not turn up?

Come-on Smokie the whining about campsite allocations, troubles etc is of all years.
Check 2005, 2006, 2007 every year people are complaining and saying they might not attend the next year and they still did.

No I am of the opinion this has nothing to do with the ACO being their usual unhelpfull self and all with the current shitty economic climate.

Bas, for me the difference is that in previous years it was always possible to get hold of MB tickets, there was always someone on here who had a supply to flog on so there were options other than agencies.  Last year that changed, the majority of the decent sites were clearly sold to the agencies or in the case of MB last year, not sold at all (I accept that a lot of that was probably caution of the part of the ACO about whether the site would be ready).  I had hoped that this year there would be more MB tickets around but that clearly isn't the case.

That changes things for me,  I don't want to pay an agency for overpriced camping tickets, I don't want to buy 2 over priced GA tickets for each tiny camping plot - 5 x 7 is of no use to anyone unless you've got a small car and a 2 man tent.   For the two of us we need two camping spaces so with an agency that means 4 expensive GA tickets, 3 of which I don't need (KK is media).    I don't want to pay a fortune for camping when the facilities are crap, I don't mind crap facilities when it's cheap but I really object to paying a fortune to queue for hours for a shower.   

I notice that the BSJ tickets I've been allocated are 49 euros each - I'm sure they used to be 35 euros? 

Thing is Piglet that people should probably forget about MB.
MB was about 800 pitches last year and substantially less this year, so what's the chance of obtaining one of those coveted remaining (maybe) 600 tickets?

Well I feel for you but we generally need 5 to 8 tickets and in the last decade or so we've always managed to secure camping tickets without the help of an agency.
In fact in 2001 we employed the help of an agency (Tickets &Travel) and the a'holes bailed out on us late May  >:(

So come on, see getting the right tickets as part of the fun/build-up to the Le Mans week, I do and it takes away the stress very much. There are always a couple of pitches to be had via (the help of) this forum or e-bay.
 
Well facilities are crap anywhere so we just find alternatives and the municipal pool and golf club have proven to be excellent replacements.  ;D

What he said.  And McD's and Decathlon's loos are fine too.  Plus, if the number of people apparently undecided, or not going is anything to go by here, if the agencies have taken the lion's share of favourite CA' haunts and are "sold out" then I suspect there could well be bundles of tickets being offloaded nearer the time, either by agencies groups or individuals.

MG Mark   

Well we all make our own decisions don't we?  Smokie asked why people aren't going and I gave my views, you don't agree with them but it doesn't make them less valid and I imagine that others think the same.

I don't want to forget about MB, I'd take BN if that was an option but it isn't.  I'd rather not go than end up in the wilds of BSJ which is where the ACO seem to believe we should all be.  It doesn't work for us with KK going back and fro to the media centre.

I hate being ripped off and the agencies are ripping us off and the ACO allow it to go on.   We have done the same as you and always managed to get tickets for a group through various means, the point I'm making is that this is much more difficult to do now as the allocations to individuals aren't there anymore (as far as I can see anyway).  The introduction of allocated pitches (which is good IMO) makes it virtually impossible to put together a group from odds and sods floating around.  Your logic of what you've done over the past decade doesn't really work at the moment.

Plus the big issue for me is the time and aggravation involved in trying to put a group pitch together which is what we've done in previous years.  It's a nightmare and I can't really be bothered anymore, maybe it was fun once, but it isn't now.   In the past we've had four or six pitches and I can't see how we'd manage that now?  I suppose we're supposed to go to BSJ and be happy using your approach?

Maybe we're different because we go for the motorsport, there is plenty of other motorsport in the world to go and see so we're chosing to use our time to see some different stuff where it's not as much aggro. 

Horses for courses.

Mark, I hope you're right and there are groups of tickets around nearer the time, I just hope they aren't all on ebay as singles to make people more cash.

The biggest reason for me staying away is that I am to busy this year, the credit crunch doesn't bother me that much, with our setup, it is at the most 400 euro per head, so that is not a big enough reason not to attend.

At the moment I am contemplating if it will be worth it to go to MB ever again, the ACO managed to completely kill the atmosphere on that site in a very impressive way. For me the best thing about Le Mans is meeting all our friends and have a laugh and a drink or 20. That can be achieved on any campsite, i've said it last year as well, but most people wanted to be on MB, mostly because of the security of being inside the track, we did carry a lot of expensive equipment, so I can see the point.

The ACO were never easy to deal with, but it feels like it has become an even greater hassle to get good tickets then it has been in the past. I'll just go to Spa this year, where live is still relatively uncomplicated, camping is free and tickets are cheap. The atmosphere is different, but good just the same.

See you all at the 24 hours of Spa

Went to F1 at Spa last year, what a great circuit - one word Stunning!

Well worth the trip and only 4 hours from that side of the Tunnel.

You should go to the FIA GT 24 hours, sitting in the trees at Blanchimont in the middle of the night with the race cars underneath you is just fab  ;D   

We had to miss Spa last year as I didn't have enough holiday to do everything  :(

Roy, did you camp at Les Combes last year?   How was it? 

I couldn't make it last year, but camping at Le combes is usually roughing it with no showers or Loo's. But its free and you only need to stay for 2 nights, so not a big problem. There is also a nice youth hostel nearby, which we used before at the LMS races, nice restaurant next door with good food and cheap beers, run by a flemish couple. So no need to speak freeky deeky Wallon!!

Will go this year, but won't be camping, going to sleep in the car for a bit, plan on watching most of the race. Specially in the trees at blanchimont!!!

Anita,

Indeed we all do decide sometimes differently, (and have to sometimes), and all circumstances are different.  I know why MB (or adjacent) is important to you and KK, and if we end up with a spare BN ticket, I'll let you know.  My comment about whether there will be tickets coming up nearer the time is just a feeling in the water - based on the fact that MB was a shambles last year with the site/track changes and weather, with the result that despite being "sold out" from the outset it was half empty, and that if the forum is anything to go by, with many fewer peiople going, there'll be an equally many fewer buying tickets from the agencies.....

All the best

MG Mark   

So why not just come and save yourself the heartache?

Her indoors is treating me to Menorca,  8) flight and villa booked, but I am sure it will make 2010 even better, see you at the boat show ;)

[quote see you at the boat show ;) [/quote] Dont change the subject Brian :D

going to vist there on the way back from the ring :)

Cheers Mark....you may well be right about tickets, I'm just worried that they'll end up on ebay as the money grabbers try to make more cash!  From last years experience it may be possible to just turn up and buy tickets at the Rotunde but that's a really big risk....

The French guys next to us last year had already been to the Rotunde and PAID for their tickets for this year...

Yes, that's a well known fact. French nationals have the right to buy tickets at the circuit one year in advance.

A clearer cut case of discrimination it is hard to imagine.  >:( >:( >:(

See you in Strasbourg Jean-Claude! Ya twats!  :police:

Surely that's an urban myth Kpy because if that was the case our ticket worries would be history from now on.  ???

Of course it is.

Thanks Kpy you should have used the sarcasm mode thingy though, because now google will find this remark on the CA forum and whole contingents of xenophobic Brits will refer to your remark as "proof" that those garlic-breath surrender monkeys get preferential treatment when it comes to Le Mans tickets.  ;)

Won't be there, bit of magic lost last year.

We will miss you all.

Planning garden party, whole w/e, God knows if there will be any atmosphere, but we will be watching for the Orange Smoke at the start.

Congrats to Robspot posse, you poor misguided fools!

Doug

Looks like I may not be going, for the first time since 2003. Absolutely not through choice, but I photograph racing for a living, and the company I work for has too many clashing races that weekend...

If we weren't in a recession I'd just take it as holiday, but it's not fair to my boss to have to pay someone to do my job... and I will do it better!

Will be at the Spa 24 though, also working. I think I will just have a "proper" holiday this year instead - not in a field!