Title: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Nordic on January 07, 2009, 05:43:50 pm
The BRM name is to return to the track, but if your expecting the Famous V12 wail (closely followed by an odd grinding noise then silence) prepare to have your hopes dashed!
http://www.eemsonline.co.uk/press_releases/07-01-09
I do expect this thing to be bloody quick though.
http://www.eemsonline.co.uk/press_releases/07-01-09
I do expect this thing to be bloody quick though.
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Leftie on January 07, 2009, 09:39:41 pm
The BRM name is to return to the track, but if your expecting the Famous V12 wail (closely followed by an odd grinding noise then silence) prepare to have your hopes dashed!
http://www.eemsonline.co.uk/press_releases/07-01-09
I do expect this thing to be bloody quick though.
http://www.eemsonline.co.uk/press_releases/07-01-09
I do expect this thing to be bloody quick though.
Having competed in hillclimbs and sprints, I would be intested see 700bhp of electric in 4x4 take to the tract.
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Gordonwr on January 07, 2009, 09:48:22 pm
That's my Easter Monday sorted out then, off to Loton Park.
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: mgmark on January 07, 2009, 10:01:01 pm
Better the BRM V16 wail that makes the '91 Maxda 787B sound tame......follow the link and click on the BRM V16 file - start and end are awesome, as is the rest when you think that it is a recording of a complete lap, recorded from one static point http://www.f1-fansite.com/sound/sound.asp (http://www.f1-fansite.com/sound/sound.asp). Not bad for 1500 supercharged cubic centimetres, and I could live with that sound compared to a lazy V8.....
MG Mark
MG Mark
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Lorry on January 07, 2009, 10:24:00 pm
That's my Easter Monday sorted out then, off to Loton Park.
And August Bank Holiday Sunday at Gurston DownNo milk float jokes yet? ;D
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Leftie on January 07, 2009, 11:16:02 pm
Better the BRM V16 wail that makes the '91 Maxda 787B sound tame......follow the link and click on the BRM V16 file - start and end are awesome, as is the rest when you think that it is a recording of a complete lap, recorded from one static point http://www.f1-fansite.com/sound/sound.asp (http://www.f1-fansite.com/sound/sound.asp). Not bad for 1500 supercharged cubic centimetres, and I could live with that sound compared to a lazy V8.....
MG Mark
MG Mark
And thar was a 1500cc V16.
Absolutely frigging brilliant.
I can remember then but I was anb irresponseable youngster at the time.
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: nopanic - neil on January 07, 2009, 11:44:24 pm
Better the BRM V16 wail that makes the '91 Maxda 787B sound tame......follow the link and click on the BRM V16 file - start and end are awesome, as is the rest when you think that it is a recording of a complete lap, recorded from one static point http://www.f1-fansite.com/sound/sound.asp (http://www.f1-fansite.com/sound/sound.asp). Not bad for 1500 supercharged cubic centimetres, and I could live with that sound compared to a lazy V8.....
MG Mark
MG Mark
And thar was a 1500cc V16.
Absolutely frigging brilliant.
I can remember then but I was anb irresponseable youngster at the time.
you don't have to be young for that - been told that recently ;D
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: nickliv on January 08, 2009, 10:22:52 am
Yeah, growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Lord Pig-Pen on January 08, 2009, 10:31:52 pm
Wonderful Noise! Sure thats the BRM featured in Classic & Sportscar a while back... that cant be revved above 6or so k now... just to look after all those thousands of little bits of whizzing metal.
I'm sure there was a V16 Italian thing made in the 90's... Cizator, or some like that... looked like a Diabolo and was surely a resounding success...
Any comments or was I dreaming?
PP
I'm sure there was a V16 Italian thing made in the 90's... Cizator, or some like that... looked like a Diabolo and was surely a resounding success...
Any comments or was I dreaming?
PP
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: mgmark on January 09, 2009, 01:06:55 am
Worth reflecting on, given that the BRM V16 was produced in 1951.
The BRM V16 was:
1500cc (to meet World Championship regs of 1.5 litre supercharged or 4.5 litres naturally aspriated)
V16 - because it is the only truly naturally, perfectly balanced engine layout
Two-stage centrifugal Rolls Royce supercharger (a la Merlin engine) running at 5.7 bar (82psi and about 2 bar higher than the F1 turbo days of the 80s in qualifying trim....)
12,000rpm
550-600bhp
No wonder it wasn't the most reliable of beasts, but what a beast....http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE)
Road cars saw Marmon, Cadillac and Peerless producing true V16s in the 1930s/40s, racing saw the famed battles between the Mercedes and Auto Unions from 1933-38, with the latter's C Type running a 6.1 litre, rear-engined, normally aspirated V16. And BRM didn't stop there at being complicated, producing their 3-litre H-16 in 1966 (two boxer/flat 8s with separate crankshafts geared to a common output)....
Or you could go for the ultimate H-layout, 24 cylinder, 36.7 litre Napier Sabre (2 flat-12s, one above the other with geared crankshafts driving a common output shaft) which powered the Hawker Tempest V...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BKq51LdJ-ZU (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BKq51LdJ-ZU)
MG Mark
The BRM V16 was:
1500cc (to meet World Championship regs of 1.5 litre supercharged or 4.5 litres naturally aspriated)
V16 - because it is the only truly naturally, perfectly balanced engine layout
Two-stage centrifugal Rolls Royce supercharger (a la Merlin engine) running at 5.7 bar (82psi and about 2 bar higher than the F1 turbo days of the 80s in qualifying trim....)
12,000rpm
550-600bhp
No wonder it wasn't the most reliable of beasts, but what a beast....http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE)
Road cars saw Marmon, Cadillac and Peerless producing true V16s in the 1930s/40s, racing saw the famed battles between the Mercedes and Auto Unions from 1933-38, with the latter's C Type running a 6.1 litre, rear-engined, normally aspirated V16. And BRM didn't stop there at being complicated, producing their 3-litre H-16 in 1966 (two boxer/flat 8s with separate crankshafts geared to a common output)....
Or you could go for the ultimate H-layout, 24 cylinder, 36.7 litre Napier Sabre (2 flat-12s, one above the other with geared crankshafts driving a common output shaft) which powered the Hawker Tempest V...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BKq51LdJ-ZU (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BKq51LdJ-ZU)
MG Mark
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Christopher on January 09, 2009, 08:27:25 am
Wonderful Noise! Sure thats the BRM featured in Classic & Sportscar a while back... that cant be revved above 6or so k now... just to look after all those thousands of little bits of whizzing metal.
I'm sure there was a V16 Italian thing made in the 90's... Cizator, or some like that... looked like a Diabolo and was surely a resounding success...
Any comments or was I dreaming?
PP
I'm sure there was a V16 Italian thing made in the 90's... Cizator, or some like that... looked like a Diabolo and was surely a resounding success...
Any comments or was I dreaming?
PP
This what you were thinking of?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kcb4iJ0ZHIo&feature=related
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 09, 2009, 10:44:29 am
.......and Auto Unions from 1933-38, with the latter's C Type running a 6.1 litre, rear-engined, normally aspirated V16.
Here's a cracking clip of starting a Type C
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTggX3ADlY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTggX3ADlY)
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: mgmark on January 09, 2009, 10:48:51 am
That'll be the Cizeta-Moroder V16T of the early 90s - two flat 8s, rather than a genuine V16. Transverse engined, but with a longitudinal gearbox, makes it unique in terms of drivetrain. Was developed by ex-Lamborghini employees, which might explain the resemblance to the Diablo.
MG Mark
MG Mark
Title: Re: BRM return (again)!
Post by: Christopher on January 09, 2009, 01:03:43 pm
.......and Auto Unions from 1933-38, with the latter's C Type running a 6.1 litre, rear-engined, normally aspirated V16.
Here's a cracking clip of starting a Type C
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTggX3ADlY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hvTggX3ADlY)
That's my mate Ian in the yellow ear muffs working the throttle. ;D
http://www.ianmacfarlane.co.uk/
