Title: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: smokie on November 18, 2008, 05:49:02 pm
Formula One race winners should receive gold medals next season with the world championship going to whoever wins most, commercial supremo Bernie Ecclestone said on Tuesday.
"Everybody is happy with the idea, they are all very supportive," the 78-year-old told Reuters when asked whether the teams supported his suggestion.
"I'm absolutely 100 percent sure it's the right way to go, it'll get them (the drivers) overtaking," he added.
See http://uk.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idUKTRE4AH3SV20081118?sp=true for the whole story
"Everybody is happy with the idea, they are all very supportive," the 78-year-old told Reuters when asked whether the teams supported his suggestion.
"I'm absolutely 100 percent sure it's the right way to go, it'll get them (the drivers) overtaking," he added.
See http://uk.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idUKTRE4AH3SV20081118?sp=true for the whole story
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Andy Zarse on November 18, 2008, 07:06:37 pm
Dear God alive. :(
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: oldtimer on November 18, 2008, 07:10:18 pm
Perhaps the awarding of actual medals is a bit crass, but there is a certain charm to the notion that the World Champion would be the person who actually won the most races... Discuss!
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: WhiteBaron on November 18, 2008, 10:22:03 pm
I have an idea - listen to this guys an girls its a bit on the edge but it could work
imagine a points table
10 points for 1st
6
4
3
2
1 etc
the winner then gets a clear 4 point advantage and drivers having an average race (bottom 2/3 of grid)score no points.
over the season a driver eg that wins 2 races and crashes twice gets more points than a consistant drives thats scores 4 3rd place podiums.
i'll just email Bernie :)
Steve
imagine a points table
10 points for 1st
6
4
3
2
1 etc
the winner then gets a clear 4 point advantage and drivers having an average race (bottom 2/3 of grid)score no points.
over the season a driver eg that wins 2 races and crashes twice gets more points than a consistant drives thats scores 4 3rd place podiums.
i'll just email Bernie :)
Steve
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: mgmark on November 18, 2008, 11:05:52 pm
Bring back the point that used to be scored for pole and the one for fastest lap....
MG Mark
MG Mark
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Lorry on November 18, 2008, 11:24:20 pm
Bring back the point that used to be scored for pole and the one for fastest lap....
I'll second thatIf we had medals and Schumaker, it would all be over by June
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: WhiteBaron on November 19, 2008, 12:48:10 am
i refer to my learned friend " the one armed teddy bear"
indeed some race rules may have to be refined, i've picked out a few:
" a driver overtakes a red car at the start (this is not in the "spirit" of bernie) the driver must let the red car back past but may not attempt a re-overtake within the next 100 laps" - this may include the next race.
"leaving the pit anytime you want is fine, points will be awarded on the distance a crew member and /or piece of important safety equipment is dragged. note extra points may be awarded for style and landing.
finally
" the last race of the year in Brazil will not be a race but a x-factor samba dance off between drivers - the decision will rest on the voting native public"
this stuff is gold, Bernie will be so pleased ;)
Steve
indeed some race rules may have to be refined, i've picked out a few:
" a driver overtakes a red car at the start (this is not in the "spirit" of bernie) the driver must let the red car back past but may not attempt a re-overtake within the next 100 laps" - this may include the next race.
"leaving the pit anytime you want is fine, points will be awarded on the distance a crew member and /or piece of important safety equipment is dragged. note extra points may be awarded for style and landing.
finally
" the last race of the year in Brazil will not be a race but a x-factor samba dance off between drivers - the decision will rest on the voting native public"
this stuff is gold, Bernie will be so pleased ;)
Steve
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Robspot on November 19, 2008, 08:05:01 am
i refer to my learned friend " the one armed teddy bear"
indeed some race rules may have to be refined, i've picked out a few:
" a driver overtakes a red car at the start (this is not in the "spirit" of bernie) the driver must let the red car back past but may not attempt a re-overtake within the next 100 laps" - this may include the next race.
"leaving the pit anytime you want is fine, points will be awarded on the distance a crew member and /or piece of important safety equipment is dragged. note extra points may be awarded for style and landing.
finally
" the last race of the year in Brazil will not be a race but a x-factor samba dance off between drivers - the decision will rest on the voting native public"
this stuff is gold, Bernie will be so pleased ;)
Steve
indeed some race rules may have to be refined, i've picked out a few:
" a driver overtakes a red car at the start (this is not in the "spirit" of bernie) the driver must let the red car back past but may not attempt a re-overtake within the next 100 laps" - this may include the next race.
"leaving the pit anytime you want is fine, points will be awarded on the distance a crew member and /or piece of important safety equipment is dragged. note extra points may be awarded for style and landing.
finally
" the last race of the year in Brazil will not be a race but a x-factor samba dance off between drivers - the decision will rest on the voting native public"
this stuff is gold, Bernie will be so pleased ;)
Steve
Careful now. It almost sounds like you're accusing the FIA of cheating in the favour of Ferrari. Obviously you're not as everyone will agree there's absolutely no evidence to support that accusation ;D
Other than that, some sound ideas for a more open and entertaining event.
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: chop456 on November 19, 2008, 09:12:41 am
Bernie's trying to devalue the series ahead of his impending divorce.
You heard it here first.
Most likely last, too.
You heard it here first.
Most likely last, too.
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Doris on November 19, 2008, 10:16:25 am
Bernie's trying to devalue the series ...
He's already done that.
Dx
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: knetter on November 19, 2008, 11:04:16 am
Next thing you know is that they will add extra weight to the winners cars and call it DTM ;D
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: WhiteBaron on November 19, 2008, 01:30:51 pm
Careful now. It almost sounds like you're accusing the FIA of cheating in the favour of Ferrari. Obviously you're not as everyone will agree there's absolutely no evidence to support that accusation ;D
I didn't mention the f- word :P
this is where Toyota is getting it wrong - too much white in the livery, they should use the old gt1 scheme - nice and red.
World champions within 2 years in that colour otherwise no chance ;D
in the same way if force india don't adapt from the current scheme they will soon see mysterious driving penalties (more so than being punted out at monaco) :)
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Lorry on November 19, 2008, 02:05:14 pm
.....in the same way if force india don't adapt from the current scheme they will soon see mysterious driving penalties (more so than being punted out at monaco) :)
They're in deep trouble anyway. They're changing from Ferrari to Mercedes engines, so any hope they had has just gone out the windowPerhaps after learning their lesson at Monaco, they'll become McLaren's "blocker" cars, and will punt off any Ferrari in sight
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: WhiteBaron on November 19, 2008, 02:23:52 pm
don't look now but......................................
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_7JnwWNFT6TQ/SDuROc6Y7II/AAAAAAAADjs/PtbmixdpIuA/s320/kimi+sutil.jpg)
Steve
(http://bp2.blogger.com/_7JnwWNFT6TQ/SDuROc6Y7II/AAAAAAAADjs/PtbmixdpIuA/s320/kimi+sutil.jpg)
Steve
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Lorry on November 19, 2008, 02:27:44 pm
Bernie's trying to devalue the series ahead of his impending divorce.
You heard it here first.
Most likely last, too.
A friend told me that in Fridays newpaper it said that Bernie and Mrs E were seperating. I can't find any mention of itYou heard it here first.
Most likely last, too.
As he seems to have put everything in his wife's name for tax reasons, there would be no need for a divorce settlement, unless he wanted some of it back
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Andy Zarse on November 19, 2008, 02:34:27 pm
Bernie's trying to devalue the series ahead of his impending divorce.
You heard it here first.
Most likely last, too.
A friend told me that in Fridays newpaper it said that Bernie and Mrs E were seperating. I can't find any mention of it You heard it here first.
Most likely last, too.
As he seems to have put everything in his wife's name for tax reasons, there would be no need for a divorce settlement, unless he wanted some of it back
I would so love a McCartney/Mills style divorce splashed all over the papers.
An Ecclestone V's Giant Foreign Woman with all sorts of ghastly domestic revelation about the "ginger wheelspins" in the back of Bernie's dirty white "Michael Winner" style underpants would be much more interesting than F1.
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Steve Pyro on November 19, 2008, 03:50:38 pm
A friend told me that in Fridays newpaper it said that Bernie and Mrs E were seperating. I can't find any mention of it
As he seems to have put everything in his wife's name for tax reasons, there would be no need for a divorce settlement, unless he wanted some of it back
Various references here -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3458973/WITH-LEGAL-Bernie-Ecclestones-wife-leaves-marital-home.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3458973/WITH-LEGAL-Bernie-Ecclestones-wife-leaves-marital-home.html)
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/171770-0/f1_chief_bernie_ecclestone_to_divorce.html (http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/171770-0/f1_chief_bernie_ecclestone_to_divorce.html)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1085514/RICHARD-KAY-Bernie-Ecclestones-wife-Slavica-breaks-racing-boss.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1085514/RICHARD-KAY-Bernie-Ecclestones-wife-Slavica-breaks-racing-boss.html)
etc
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Barry on November 19, 2008, 03:53:03 pm
A friend told me that in Fridays newpaper it said that Bernie and Mrs E were seperating. I can't find any mention of it
Report on the radio Thursday that Mrs E had left the marital home.
The Poison dwarf was quoted that is was due to the noise from buiding work next door that had driven her away.
Obviously the top divorce lawyer practice that Mrs E has alledgeley had meetings with, has a small department dealing with noise abatement issues. ;D
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Kpy on November 19, 2008, 06:27:44 pm
Bring back the point that used to be scored for pole and the one for fastest lap....
MG Mark
MG Mark
Bring them back?
The point for fastest lap applied from 1950 - 1959. But a point for pole position - when did that happen?
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Boorish Grobian on November 19, 2008, 07:28:00 pm
This is just stupid, I don't even know where to begin. The argument that the driver who wins the most races should be the champion is as old as GP racing itself. How many times has the title gone to the driver with most wins? Not that often...
The title should reward both speed AND consistancy. I didn't think that either Hamilton or Massa were worthy of the title this year because of the number of bone-headed mistakes they and their teams made, despite how many races they won.
Bernie's just becoming senile, its the only excuse I can find for the things he proposes.
fax
The title should reward both speed AND consistancy. I didn't think that either Hamilton or Massa were worthy of the title this year because of the number of bone-headed mistakes they and their teams made, despite how many races they won.
Bernie's just becoming senile, its the only excuse I can find for the things he proposes.
fax
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: mgmark on November 19, 2008, 09:30:46 pm
Bring back the point that used to be scored for pole and the one for fastest lap....
MG Mark
MG Mark
Bring them back?
The point for fastest lap applied from 1950 - 1959. But a point for pole position - when did that happen?
Spot on - got confused - a point for pole is a facet of BTCC, although it appears that it might be considered for F1....
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71451 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71451)
Title: Re: Ecclestone wants medals to decide F1 title
Post by: Mr. Rick on November 21, 2008, 03:45:23 pm
Bring back the point that used to be scored for pole and the one for fastest lap....
MG Mark
MG Mark
Bring them back?
The point for fastest lap applied from 1950 - 1959. But a point for pole position - when did that happen?
Spot on - got confused - a point for pole is a facet of BTCC, although it appears that it might be considered for F1....
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71451 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71451)
Used to be the case when the Champ Car series was good and I've wondered for ages if it could add spice to F
Isn't it time Bernie retired anyway? Mind you, sounds like he'll need to keep working now ;)
;D
