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Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Buddha on June 17, 2008, 05:51:57 pm



Title: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Buddha on June 17, 2008, 05:51:57 pm
Hi All

I am discussing with some contacts in the airline business the chance of a scheduled flight or two there and back next year.  What would help is some idea of how popular this might be (i.e. the difference between a 5 seater death trap and a larger plane with very attractive cabin crew).

Let me know your thoughts and if you are interested.

Cheers

Buddha


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Lord Steve on June 17, 2008, 06:33:07 pm
I was thinking about this only today. Can you keep me informed?
Many thanks
Steve


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Barry on June 17, 2008, 06:45:43 pm
I believe that similar enquiries were made a few years ago.
Landing charges were found to be very expensive LM week, as was plane parking for the week


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Lord Steve on June 17, 2008, 08:02:05 pm
What about flying to Paris CDG (plenty of cheapish flights) and then getting the TGV to LM?
We could all rendezvous in Paris for a mass train ride to LM.
Thinking seriously about this for next year.
Steve


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Barry on June 17, 2008, 08:04:52 pm
Trayboy and another of the Brethern did it this year, then caught the tram. As they were staying on HAN, it apparently worked excellently.

But who takes the kit down?


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: mgmark on June 18, 2008, 09:56:05 am
Trayboy and another of the Brethern did it this year, then caught the tram. As they were staying on HAN, it apparently worked excellently.

But who takes the kit down?

One of our crew arrived by TGV and tram this year - worked very well.  The only solution for kit is for them to cart it with them, or someone else to bring it/some of it (e.g. tent etc) for them by other means

MG Mark


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: AdamH on June 18, 2008, 11:51:51 am
It's quite cheap to fly to Paris CDG then get the TGV to Le Mans.

This year I flew from East Midlands to Paris for about fifty odd pounds return (inc taxes etc) on BMI Baby, then got the TGV first class to LM for £35 and came back on a slower "Ten" service for £25 (no TGVs at 4am!)

Due to none of my friends being able to make to full trip this year, I went down for qualifying on Wednesday and Thursday and came bakc on Friday.
I got the tram from Le Mans station to the circuit on wednesday, camped in my small tent in an unmarked corner of KN wednesday night and headed back to Le Mans train station on foot after Thursday qualifying (the trams had finished running by then) for my 4am train back to Paris.

It was well worth it for my annual fix of Le Mans, especially down at the awesome Arnage (although no fun walking back from there in the dark) and I watched the race at home on a TV projector I borrowed.

Hope to be back for the full week+weekend next year.


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Lazy B'stard on June 18, 2008, 11:56:51 am
Would be interested. Planning shorter trip next year due to lessening love of tents, pikey thefts, missing my 2 kids, not missing my dragon wife, busy worklife etc.
 Like the plane and train idea too. Problem with charter plan is it will prob be from soft southern airport which doesn't help us northern monkeys.
 Want to stay in a hotel too next year so gear not a problem for me. Has anyone stayed at the Hotel de Paris in Eccommoy? Looks nice from the outside and is only 15mins away.


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: BigH on June 18, 2008, 12:16:34 pm
Dr S,
I rendezvoused at Blue Nord with a mate, and although our two journeys were very different, our journey times were almost identical,  as I think you're based in the NE somewhere it's a good comparison.
I left London at about 6am on Friday morning, driving to Calais for the tunnel and arriving at LM just in time to pick him up at the tram stop at Tetre Rouge at 3 in the afternoon. He'd left Edinburgh, also at 6am, with a flight to Paris CDG, transfer to the TGV to Le Mans and finally the tram.
And I'll admit, he was in much better shape than me.
H


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: redstu on June 18, 2008, 12:50:09 pm
My first 2 trips to LM were via the CDG and the TGV and I "freecamped" in Houx, what you can bring is obviously limited, but if you are only staying a few nights then its not a problem.

I've twice hired a car and whilst more expensive makes the trip more enjoyable.
Personally I'd rather fly to Orly or Rennes as the journey will be quicker.

Stu


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Buddha on June 20, 2008, 02:51:49 pm
If i get anywhere with this vain attempt I will post something on CA for all.  For us soft southerners, there is a great flight from Newquay (excellent for us surfers) to St. Briec with a TGV straight to LM - a source at the airline suggested they might consider extending this flight to include a drop off and pick up from LM - thus taking away the parking problem.

Kit is the problem, but hopefully the rest of my group who hire a van can accommodate - maybe if this takes off (do excuse me on that one), then we can consider sharring the camel resource.

Do like the idea of CDG and train - could be just like the old ski train to the mountains.

Keep your ideas flowing.

Buddha


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: nickliv on June 20, 2008, 11:35:53 pm
I looked into this a couple of years ago, and I'm afraid to say, the cost was pretty prohibitive. The Arnage runway is fairly small, and the best you can hope for (Size wise) is a largish twin turboprop - ATR 72, Dash 8, Saab 2000 sort of size.

The price I got came in at about £350 PP for a Saab 2000, assuming a full plane both ways.

Pieanair and TGV will be much cheaper, and you can still do the 'group' thing. And you won't get left holding the chequebook when the music stops.

Best of luck.


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Barry on June 20, 2008, 11:43:56 pm
I'm sure we have seen bigger stuff than that taking off, Nick, but I'm no expert.
And I was probably over refreshed. ;D


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Robbo SPS on June 21, 2008, 12:32:36 am
Dr S,
I rendezvoused at Blue Nord with a mate, and although our two journeys were very different, our journey times were almost identical,  as I think you're based in the NE somewhere it's a good comparison.
I left London at about 6am on Friday morning, driving to Calais for the tunnel and arriving at LM just in time to pick him up at the tram stop at Tetre Rouge at 3 in the afternoon. He'd left Edinburgh, also at 6am, with a flight to Paris CDG, transfer to the TGV to Le Mans and finally the tram.
And I'll admit, he was in much better shape than me.
H
The bottle of grouse on the way down probably didnt help you h.


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Chris (Liverpool Boys) on June 21, 2008, 01:38:46 am
There is definitely bigger stuff than that taking off and landing we had our resident aviation oracle with us this year!!!!


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Leftie on June 21, 2008, 02:52:09 am
Any chance on a C130?

We can then take a few cars with us.


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: nickliv on June 21, 2008, 09:07:16 am
There is definitely bigger stuff than that taking off and landing we had our resident aviation oracle with us this year!!!!


Ah yes, but were they full?  ;)


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: nopanic - neil on June 21, 2008, 09:55:04 am
Any chance on a C130?

We can then take a few cars with us.

Even better, imagine the entrance and exit we could make, our own mobile BBQ.  ;D

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4f/C-130_Hercules_10.jpg/745px-C-130_Hercules_10.jpg)


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Mr. Invincible Mou on June 21, 2008, 11:32:49 am
not sure how we get it back to Blighty, though ::)

Fulton Skyhook should do the job  ;)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/bullocks/mc130_49FultonSystem.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v420/bullocks/Fultonsystemop.jpg)


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: landman on June 21, 2008, 11:39:58 am
We need a C17 don't we?

I believe the RAF refer to their four as Thunderbirds 1, 2, 3 & 4

 ;D

http://www.petergoodearl.co.uk/airdays/airdays/airdisplay/riat05/1_static/pict0001_20050716.jpg (http://www.petergoodearl.co.uk/airdays/airdays/airdisplay/riat05/1_static/pict0001_20050716.jpg)


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: BigH on June 21, 2008, 02:04:59 pm
Quote
The bottle of grouse on the way down probably didnt help you h.

Wotcher Robbo, how're you keeping?

I'm off the whiskey for a bit....
I got stuck into a sizeable hip flask of single malt at Paddys Party on Friday night, co-oincidentally shortly before I passed out. Just as I was recovering, another bottle was cracked open at the campsite, and that one gave me 'walking sickness' and I shot off on foot to Arnage corner, almost getting run over several times. Come Sunday as I was packing up, and feeling very very ropey, young H Jnr (on his first trip to LM), pulled out a package he'd hidden, and with a 'Happy Fathers Day, Dad' handed me a bottle of Laphroig. I nearly strangled him.
I suppose he was on the right track....
H


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: landman on June 21, 2008, 05:06:49 pm
Got it, it's LAPES - Low Altitude Parachute Extraction System

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhG_HSfawpc

Landman


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Buddha on June 27, 2008, 04:35:20 pm
Whoever said anything about asking for permission to land and paying to do so?????

I like the C130 idea - how about we drop cluster bombs and the like on Rouen on the way down and then just land on the start/finish straight so there is less distance to walk.

Anyone know anyone with a Lockhead Blackbird?

Buddha


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Buddha on July 03, 2008, 06:20:40 pm
Maybe a HALO jump landing on the start/finish straight?


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Perdu on July 03, 2008, 07:03:58 pm
Will it be Ok if I just watch these antics then

I no longer wish to strap on unwieldy harnesses and walk out of any perfectly serviceable aircraft whilst in flight mode.

Be warned "ground" sometimes comes a bit sharpish, OK?


Yerss

I'll just watch


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Leftie on July 03, 2008, 07:12:56 pm
I like the C130 idea

Don't much care about landing a C130 on the start/finish straight, It won't fit mate.

But a C130 could take us an cars over with all the camping gear. Even better if we're all camping on Bleu Nord, it can park next to the fence.


Title: Re: Anyone interested in flying to LM24 in 2009
Post by: Buddha on July 07, 2008, 06:03:03 pm
I like the C130 idea

Don't much care about landing a C130 on the start/finish straight, It won't fit mate.

But a C130 could take us an cars over with all the camping gear. Even better if we're all camping on Bleu Nord, it can park next to the fence.

OK then build a purpose built runway behind the track in Le Mans town - it would certainly be an improvement on the current infrastructure.