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Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Boorish Grobian on March 18, 2008, 11:59:51 pm



Title: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Boorish Grobian on March 18, 2008, 11:59:51 pm
This thing should win some kind of prize for butt-ulgy.  Just when you thought the Daytona Prototypes couldn't get anymore hideous?
The new Dallara Grand-Am device...
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Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Leftie on March 19, 2008, 12:25:49 am
This thing should win some kind of prize for butt-ulgy.  Just when you thought the Daytona Prototypes couldn't get anymore hideous?
The new Dallara Grand-Am device...
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Sportier but similar looks to the old light blue AC invalide carriage with an extra wheel!!!!!!!


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Christopher on March 19, 2008, 08:32:28 am

I'll probably get burnt at dawn for saying this......but why do so many American series race cars look so old fashioned and lacking in innovation. They might produce close racing, but they are just not interesting to look at.




Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Nordic on March 19, 2008, 08:39:13 am
Built to cost control rules that make things that should be a joy to behold something to turnaway from.

In 20 or 50 years if one of these turns up in a barn with the most impressive race history possible, no one will give a toss and will just close the barn door and let it rot away.


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: chop456 on March 19, 2008, 08:48:47 am

I'll probably get burnt at dawn for saying this......but why do so many American series race cars look so old fashioned and lacking in innovation.

Because 95% of Americans like crap racing and crap racing cars.


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Petra on March 19, 2008, 11:21:06 am
95% of Americans like crap, period.


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: enzo on March 19, 2008, 11:58:24 am
Only ever saw pic's/vid's of this alfa but always thought it was a bit ugly especially for and alfa


(http://www.supercars.net/carpics/26/1975_AlfaRomeo_333TT121.jpg)



Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Kev_mk3 on March 19, 2008, 12:50:04 pm
WTF where they thinking!!(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/kev_mk3/smiles/tfg.gif)(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/kev_mk3/smiles/disgusting.gif)


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Shamrock on March 19, 2008, 01:00:07 pm
Looks like they are trying to put a pig snout on it, maybe it is built for mud racing?


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Christopher on March 19, 2008, 01:05:56 pm

The Alfa I could live with.

But I would have to do something slightly better with badge arrangement.



Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Lorry on March 19, 2008, 02:04:20 pm
Could it be a Smart, with a massive body kit?

It does look like a randon selection of body panels thrown together, and Ugly


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Boorish Grobian on March 19, 2008, 06:04:06 pm
I realize that the Daytona Prototypes have to be built to a very specific set of regulations (cockpit dimensions, height & width, etc.) but this thing looks like a rolling turd.  How did Dallara's design staff take the Grand-Am regulations and come up with that?  Grand-Am is NASCAR's idea of what sportscar racing should be, meaning spec car racing, but this stands out from the rest by its shear ugliness
Personally I like the original Alfa T33, but it did get a bit slab-sided as it was developed, the photo looks like the 1974 incarnation.
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Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: goodduck on March 19, 2008, 06:30:34 pm
5% reporting  ;D

these rolex daytona prototypes have always looked like smushed LMP's


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: amazing 1 on March 19, 2008, 10:01:46 pm
95% of Americans like crap, period.

 ???


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: nickliv on March 19, 2008, 11:23:12 pm
It's OK randy. I'm certain you all into the accceptable 5%


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Lord Pig-Pen on March 20, 2008, 12:37:29 am
I think it looks cool... but then I am not really in a position to comment, being a Chavalier driver ;D and a fan of Japans biggest ugliest most horrid... the Nissan 300C.


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Buck Bundy on March 20, 2008, 01:34:21 am

The Alfa I could live with.

But I would have to do something slightly better with badge arrangement.



How about this one? Just before they got too slab sided?

(http://www.zul-racing.com/images/JonT33.jpg)

Buck


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Boorish Grobian on March 20, 2008, 03:02:00 am
Gorgeous!
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Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Christopher on March 20, 2008, 08:10:26 am

Yep. That will do.



Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Nordic on March 20, 2008, 08:37:22 am
How anyone could compare the Alfa 33 with the DP Dallara is beyond me.

It looks (and sounds) lovely.


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: oldtimer on March 20, 2008, 09:56:41 am

The Alfa I could live with.

But I would have to do something slightly better with badge arrangement.



How about this one? Just before they got too slab sided?


Now that is what a racing car should look like  ;D


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: clkgtrlm1 on March 20, 2008, 11:35:17 am
 ;D


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: garyfrogeye on March 20, 2008, 12:42:15 pm
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark.saxby/marcos/duckling.jpg)

I'm a big fan of Frank Costin, but even the best get it wrong sometimes.


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: chop456 on March 20, 2008, 01:16:16 pm
(http://fotos.iher.net/76bra26v%20Laffite%20Ligier%20JS5.jpg)



Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Big G on March 20, 2008, 02:01:04 pm
That just looks like a smurf on wheels  :o


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: enzo on March 20, 2008, 05:22:24 pm
I wasn't comparing it too the dallara i was just saying that in the incarnation i pictured that it was a bit ugly to short on the nose and slab sided, i know it sounds lovely but compared to most alfa's it's not pretty is it?


How anyone could compare the Alfa 33 with the DP Dallara is beyond me.

It looks (and sounds) lovely.


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Nordic on March 20, 2008, 06:27:34 pm
I think most of the prototypes from the mid 70's followed the same design, gone were the curves of the late 60's and very early 70's that spawned the 917. 512 and Matras and early 33T's.

The later 33T, Mirage GR7, Lola 380 and the 2 litre cars of the era all shared the flat slab like sides.

It was not until the late 70s when the 936, and Renault Alpines arrived that curves were back in fashion.





Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Boorish Grobian on March 20, 2008, 11:10:39 pm
I always thought the late seventies Alpine Renaults were about as lovely as it gets, with the Porsche 936's in their Martini colors not far behind.  Just simply very evocative machines.  As Nordic well said, in thirty years no one will give a rats ass about "historic" Daytona Prototypes.  Better off tearing them apart and throwing on the scrap heap.
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Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Nordic on March 21, 2008, 09:21:15 am
Amen to that, the 936 and Alpine were the cars around when I first went to a sportscar race. Both classic designs of the era that looked lovely, but Deisel bashers take note, sounded very muted after the screaming DFV's and BMW 6's. A bit like the R10 and 908.

They also crushed to opposition in the same way.


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: enzo on March 21, 2008, 02:41:40 pm
I'm just like any other red blooded male then

I like curves !!  :D


Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Boorish Grobian on March 22, 2008, 12:22:40 am
Funny thing about the "Smurf On Wheels", it was such an outrageous design. Look at every F1 car now, with the exception of the odd bit of flap here, or board here, they all look the same!  The Ligier's weren't always pretty, but they were always colorful & different, and sometimes they really did fly...if only for a few races.  Sacre Blue! ;D
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Title: Re: The ugliest racing car in history?
Post by: Petra on March 22, 2008, 12:27:50 pm
95% of Americans like crap, period.

I guess that must be the reason why they enjoy the Dutch visiting them each year ;D ;D ;D ;D

Those at Sebring are the other 5% ;D
(if not, they would be at NASCRAP in stead of ALMS now wouldn't they  :angel: )