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Club Arnage => Help => Topic started by: Fran on November 17, 2007, 12:43:53 pm



Title: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Fran on November 17, 2007, 12:43:53 pm
Anyone know what is the best thing to use for getting tree sap off paintwork (silver metallic if thats relevant).

My car spends most of its life parked up and there isnt any parking space here that isnt under tree sap fallout... the sap has gone black and seems set solid. 

I have tried jetwashing and a certain amount of scrubbing with a sponge but although it is mproved a bit there is still a lot of black dots..

Any tried n tested remedies?

F


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Nordic on November 17, 2007, 01:59:56 pm
Sap is a bugger to get off and will eat into your paint work like bird sh*t does.

http://www.sonax.com/sonax-e/katalog_product.php?show_cat=alc&show_product=390300

or 

http://www.autoglym.co.uk/enGB/product-proddetail.asp?v06VQ=GD

I have never tried it but I am told that mineral spirits and denatured alcohol act as a solvent to break up and dissolve the sap. Not sure what it does to the paint work on the car.


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: nickliv on November 17, 2007, 02:39:39 pm
You could try a clay bar, followed  by a quality polish. The clay bar will remove the sap etc. and the polish will stop it geting stuck again.

Or get a chainsaw and remove the offending trees in the dead of night.


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Lorry on November 17, 2007, 11:50:54 pm
Are you sure its sap and not termite droppings.  It took the paint off my last Morris.  I'd recommend the chainsaw


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Steve Pyro on November 17, 2007, 11:53:57 pm
I've found one of these to be quite useful Fran  ::)

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Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: termietermite on November 18, 2007, 01:30:01 pm
Are you sure its sap and not termite droppings.  It took the paint off my last Morris.  I'd recommend the chainsaw
I have not been anywhere near Fran's car.


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Lorry on November 18, 2007, 07:17:35 pm
No offence ment, but I have it on good authority that half digested sap is more toxic than the real thing


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Bob U on November 19, 2007, 04:18:47 pm
Last resort?


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Fran on November 19, 2007, 05:56:06 pm
I dont know... I ask a perfectly sensible question - go away for a couple of days - and come back to check my replies!!  ::)

Thanks for all the useful suggestions I will bear them all in mind - possibly a bit of T-cut to start with and work up from there to BobU's offering .....!

At least now most of the leaves have dropped it shouldnt be so bad.

F


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Christopher on November 19, 2007, 06:32:01 pm

Have you tried baby wipes?

They have a small amount of alcohol in them which is great at dissolving fly sh*t, so might help with the sap.

Plus they are not very abrasive so don't spoil the paint.



Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: nopanic - neil on November 19, 2007, 07:50:35 pm
I dont know... I ask a perfectly sensible question - go away for a couple of days - and come back to check my replies!!  ::)

Thanks for all the useful suggestions I will bear them all in mind - possibly a bit of T-cut to start with and work up from there to BobU's offering .....!

At least now most of the leaves have dropped it shouldnt be so bad.

F

I think I would be a bit careful with the T cut, as you can only do it so many times.

A way of removing stickers, i.e. the old BT ones on my van, was the use of WD40, strange but true. I peeled back the stickers by hand, and then removed the sticky gunk left over with WD40. Spray on to a cloth and rub gently or spray a bit on the paint work and rub with a soft cloth. I think it may be worth a try, in a small area first.

Good luck,


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Steve Pyro on November 19, 2007, 07:53:27 pm

.... I think it may be worth a try, in a small area first.
 

Would that be in the cupboard under the stairs Neil?



Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: nopanic - neil on November 20, 2007, 09:05:34 am

.... I think it may be worth a try, in a small area first.
 

Would that be in the cupboard under the stairs Neil?



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Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: nickliv on November 20, 2007, 11:15:46 am
A rag 'moistened' in petrol might work as well, but you will have to re polish the car, as all of the existing polish will have been stripped off.

Take it to a bunch of Polish (double meaning :- bloked from Poland. Who polish) blokes under some arches, and give them £40 for a full valet, and make sure they know the tree sap is to be dealt with properly. Alternatively, find a 'detailing' geek and flutter your eyelashes at him for a bit.


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Lazy B'stard on November 20, 2007, 11:21:49 am
If the WD won't shift it pop along to your local paint supplier/motor factors and get a can of Pre-clean (there was a branch of Autopaint international in Withington last time I was down your way- its about £10 for 5 litres) it shifts anything, doesnt damage paintwork and smells jolly nice too! Also handy for removing felt pen and crayon from freshly painted walls ( my daughter Lola thinks she is Jackson Pollock this week)


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: mgmark on November 21, 2007, 12:24:12 pm
If the WD won't shift it pop along to your local paint supplier/motor factors and get a can of Pre-clean (there was a branch of Autopaint international in Withington last time I was down your way- its about £10 for 5 litres) it shifts anything, doesnt damage paintwork and smells jolly nice too! Also handy for removing felt pen and crayon from freshly painted walls ( my daughter Lola thinks she is Jackson Pollock this week)

Spot on advice -  it doesn't damage the paintwork and re-polish afterwards.

MG Mark


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Fran on November 22, 2007, 08:30:35 am
Darn it - just seen on telly that they have arrested most of the workforce at my local hand car wash for being failed asylum seekers and working illegally - going to have to sort this out myself after all!  ::)

F


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Barry on November 23, 2007, 09:00:56 pm
and smells jolly nice too!


Sounds like somebody else who enjoyed the fringe benefits of making Airfix kits, before solvent abuse became fashionable. ;D


Title: Re: Tree Sap on paintwork
Post by: Lorry on November 25, 2007, 07:28:39 pm
Oh and the whiteboard markers!  I see that blackboards are no longer politically correct in schools, even though they were green.

I've been trimming the hedge (it was 20 foot tall) and my hands are covered in ....you guessed it... SAP  It really is a buqqer to get off.  I recon I've cut half a ton of wood, so reducing my carbon footprint by 600 gallons of diesel, or nearly a years worth of motoring.  Timber!