Title: Theft of images
Post by: Nordic on September 12, 2007, 09:53:28 am
A word of caution for all those that post images on the web.
I have just been told of a someone on Germany that is selling a CD-Rom on ebay containing over 6000 photos and race details.
The only problem is seems that he has lifted the photos from various sites, including mine.
While not the crime of the century, it is nevertheless very annoying, so if anyone wants the info this guy is selling I can point them in the direction of various pages were the info can be got for free.
I have just been told of a someone on Germany that is selling a CD-Rom on ebay containing over 6000 photos and race details.
The only problem is seems that he has lifted the photos from various sites, including mine.
While not the crime of the century, it is nevertheless very annoying, so if anyone wants the info this guy is selling I can point them in the direction of various pages were the info can be got for free.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Piglet on September 12, 2007, 10:02:49 am
Do you have a linky linky so that we can check out whether he's lifted any of KK's??
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Steve Pyro on September 12, 2007, 10:06:46 am
It's, pretty much, to be expected.
Short of adding watermarks or security software to limit downloading of images, there's little that can be done to prevent this.
I upload my images to a public sharing site in the full knowledge that once they are up there, I have no influence on what is done with them. That one (or more) individuals then decide to profit from me is just one of those inevitable 21st century nuances.
I could stop uploading but I do so in the spirit of not for profit sharing with other interested individuals. That's the whole ethos of the www.
To those who are buying these images - caveat emptor.
Short of adding watermarks or security software to limit downloading of images, there's little that can be done to prevent this.
I upload my images to a public sharing site in the full knowledge that once they are up there, I have no influence on what is done with them. That one (or more) individuals then decide to profit from me is just one of those inevitable 21st century nuances.
I could stop uploading but I do so in the spirit of not for profit sharing with other interested individuals. That's the whole ethos of the www.
To those who are buying these images - caveat emptor.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on September 12, 2007, 10:09:54 am
A word of caution for all those that post images on the web.
I have just been told of a someone on Germany that is selling a CD-Rom on ebay containing over 6000 photos and race details.
The only problem is seems that he has lifted the photos from various sites, including mine.
While not the crime of the century, it is nevertheless very annoying, so if anyone wants the info this guy is selling I can point them in the direction of various pages were the info can be got for free.
I have just been told of a someone on Germany that is selling a CD-Rom on ebay containing over 6000 photos and race details.
The only problem is seems that he has lifted the photos from various sites, including mine.
While not the crime of the century, it is nevertheless very annoying, so if anyone wants the info this guy is selling I can point them in the direction of various pages were the info can be got for free.
Hi Nordic,
can you post or pm me a link to that ebay-offer - I could write to e-bay Germany - Once they are aware of such things those offers are usually deleted.
Edited: Is it this one: http://cgi.ebay.de/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330161880502QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Seller is listed as non-commercial -what a joke.
Nordic - Which pics exactly are on that CD which are stolen from your site?
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: garyfrogeye on September 12, 2007, 10:16:59 am
I once had a guy lift an image of my car off the web (that I had taken) and put it in a calendar which he was selling on American ebay. the problem was that he used my image of my car as the main one in the auction.
I sent him an email saying the least he could do was send me a calendar. the problem was that when it arrived the quality was so poor and the images so compressed.
It was a bit of a concern seeing a picture of my car on an ebay auction.
I sent him an email saying the least he could do was send me a calendar. the problem was that when it arrived the quality was so poor and the images so compressed.
It was a bit of a concern seeing a picture of my car on an ebay auction.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Nordic on September 12, 2007, 10:28:35 am
A word of caution for all those that post images on the web.
I have just been told of a someone on Germany that is selling a CD-Rom on ebay containing over 6000 photos and race details.
The only problem is seems that he has lifted the photos from various sites, including mine.
While not the crime of the century, it is nevertheless very annoying, so if anyone wants the info this guy is selling I can point them in the direction of various pages were the info can be got for free.
I have just been told of a someone on Germany that is selling a CD-Rom on ebay containing over 6000 photos and race details.
The only problem is seems that he has lifted the photos from various sites, including mine.
While not the crime of the century, it is nevertheless very annoying, so if anyone wants the info this guy is selling I can point them in the direction of various pages were the info can be got for free.
Hi Nordic,
can you post or pm me a link to that ebay-offer - I could write to e-bay Germany - Once they are aware of such things those offers are usually deleted.
Edited: Is it this one: http://cgi.ebay.de/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330161880502QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Seller is listed as non-commercial -what a joke.
Nordic - Which pics exactly are on that CD which are stolen from your site?
Thats the one Werner,
He is using this image http://rupert8766.fotopic.net/p2765394.html on the ebay advert. Without buying the cd I do not know how many others he has lifted, but i do know that he has taken others from other people.
I suspect he has used the RacingSportsCars website as the source.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: garyfrogeye on September 12, 2007, 10:46:26 am
A word of caution for all those that post images on the web.
I have just been told of a someone on Germany that is selling a CD-Rom on ebay containing over 6000 photos and race details.
The only problem is seems that he has lifted the photos from various sites, including mine.
While not the crime of the century, it is nevertheless very annoying, so if anyone wants the info this guy is selling I can point them in the direction of various pages were the info can be got for free.
I have just been told of a someone on Germany that is selling a CD-Rom on ebay containing over 6000 photos and race details.
The only problem is seems that he has lifted the photos from various sites, including mine.
While not the crime of the century, it is nevertheless very annoying, so if anyone wants the info this guy is selling I can point them in the direction of various pages were the info can be got for free.
Hi Nordic,
can you post or pm me a link to that ebay-offer - I could write to e-bay Germany - Once they are aware of such things those offers are usually deleted.
Edited: Is it this one: http://cgi.ebay.de/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330161880502QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Seller is listed as non-commercial -what a joke.
Nordic - Which pics exactly are on that CD which are stolen from your site?
Thats the one Werner,
He is using this image http://rupert8766.fotopic.net/p2765394.html on the ebay advert. Without buying the cd I do not know how many others he has lifted, but i do know that he has taken others from other people.
I suspect he has used the RacingSportsCars website as the source.
And he can't claim ignorance as there is no doubt that that image is clearly copyrite
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on September 12, 2007, 10:47:24 am
Hi Nordic,
I've written (in German and English) to the seller and asked him to remove this offer within the next 4 hours from the web, next step will be a letter to ebay. He is using the mail-address "lemans24hr@aol.com"
Not sure whether it's a german or english seller though, although listed as a german private seller, he's quoting in british pounds and the description is in English
Let's see what happens
I've written (in German and English) to the seller and asked him to remove this offer within the next 4 hours from the web, next step will be a letter to ebay. He is using the mail-address "lemans24hr@aol.com"
Not sure whether it's a german or english seller though, although listed as a german private seller, he's quoting in british pounds and the description is in English
Let's see what happens
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on September 12, 2007, 10:56:44 am
Hi Nordic,
it's also offered on the ebay UK site at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330161880502QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
May be a parallel complaint to ebay UK from your side will speed up things a little
Cheers
Werner
it's also offered on the ebay UK site at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330161880502QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
May be a parallel complaint to ebay UK from your side will speed up things a little
Cheers
Werner
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Piglet on September 12, 2007, 11:16:25 am
It might be worth one of our French speakers nudging the ACO if he's reproducing things which have the 24 hour logo on it. They are usually pretty hot on these issues.
Is there any kind of German trading standards who might look at this if alerted?
Is there any kind of German trading standards who might look at this if alerted?
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: termietermite on September 12, 2007, 11:20:34 am
Piglet, do you know the correct person to contact (e-mail if poss as I'm leaving for S/Stn in the morning) at the ACO?
Approaching e-bay is worthwhile. Mr T has had great success in having a number of dubious sellers removed in this way.
Approaching e-bay is worthwhile. Mr T has had great success in having a number of dubious sellers removed in this way.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on September 12, 2007, 11:25:59 am
Is there any kind of German trading standards who might look at this if alerted?
Don't know, will check. This seller is marked as private but the offer is clearly commercial. If we really want to kick his/her ass, it's best to report this offer to the German tax authorities, they have no mercy ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: JDS on September 12, 2007, 11:33:43 am
Well, whether you post to pic sharing sites (or here!) or not, the copyright remains with the photographer and what this seller is doing is theft, pure and simple. You can get lots of info on copywright issues from places such as photographers direct etc.
However, if your images are in there, the seller is making a profit from your work and owes you a royalty payment, simple. Complain to ebay (mention that they are facilitating copyright theft) and also complain to AOL as he is using theor service for theft (you may like to emphesise this point to AOL). You could also contact the seller directly and ask for his IBAN (bank) details as if you wanted to make a payment, then contact his bank and again, inform them they are facilitating theft - the bank MUST then do something about it once notified, it's required of them by their regulators (even if the ignore it long term, they have to make an investigation which will be a PITA for the owner of the account!). If you have the equivilent of trading standards, complain to them as well and (if the seller is in the UK) you can sue him via moneydirect (HM Courts) even if your not resident in the UK (bit draconian I agree, but I've sued people over ebay stuff and won too!)
However, if your images are in there, the seller is making a profit from your work and owes you a royalty payment, simple. Complain to ebay (mention that they are facilitating copyright theft) and also complain to AOL as he is using theor service for theft (you may like to emphesise this point to AOL). You could also contact the seller directly and ask for his IBAN (bank) details as if you wanted to make a payment, then contact his bank and again, inform them they are facilitating theft - the bank MUST then do something about it once notified, it's required of them by their regulators (even if the ignore it long term, they have to make an investigation which will be a PITA for the owner of the account!). If you have the equivilent of trading standards, complain to them as well and (if the seller is in the UK) you can sue him via moneydirect (HM Courts) even if your not resident in the UK (bit draconian I agree, but I've sued people over ebay stuff and won too!)
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Piglet on September 12, 2007, 11:48:34 am
Ohhh Good point about contacting his bank JDS, under the EU Money Laundering Reg's they must take action if they believe he may be evading tax. ;D
I'm almost tempted to buy one and trawl through it to see who's images I can find, especially if he hasn't tried hard to take the watermarks off them...
I'm almost tempted to buy one and trawl through it to see who's images I can find, especially if he hasn't tried hard to take the watermarks off them...
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Piglet on September 12, 2007, 11:52:22 am
Actually there is another point for media accredited snappers, were the ACO to get hold of this they may assume that the snappers have co-operated which would be in breach of their media status.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Muzorewa on September 12, 2007, 12:01:10 pm
Isn't there some blurb on the back of tickets (I'm thinking MSV here) where the ownership of any film or images belongs to the circuit? A difficult one to argue but in any event the images don't belong to this muppet. I see in the case of Nordic's picture he's just cropped the bottom and used it as his own >:(
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Piglet on September 12, 2007, 12:06:39 pm
Muz, punters have the right to take pictures for their own personal use only. There is potentially an argument that says putting them on a website is in breach of that but I can't see the circuit owners going after someone who is not making a profit and is giving them free advertising.
Media snappers can use images for media purposes only, any other use is deemed commercial use and requires a separate licence (fee ;D)
Media snappers can use images for media purposes only, any other use is deemed commercial use and requires a separate licence (fee ;D)
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Piglet on September 12, 2007, 12:10:00 pm
Termie, I've left KK a message as he's teaching at the moment, I'll get him to confirm who would be best to talk to at the ACO.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Brian(Liverpool boys) on September 12, 2007, 12:11:54 pm
here's one I stole earlier, thanks Steve.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2405693780052760295EftbuQ?vhost=rides
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2405693780052760295EftbuQ?vhost=rides
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: JDS on September 12, 2007, 12:12:23 pm
Ohhh Good point about contacting his bank JDS, under the EU Money Laundering Reg's they must take action if they believe he may be evading tax. ;D
Exactly ... It really bugs me when Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: knetter on September 12, 2007, 01:28:22 pm
I did see the ACO logo on some of his pictures on his different adds, there are quit a few that are clearly taken from Le Mans yearbooks. Just report him to the ACO, they wont be pleased to say the least :police:
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Lorry on September 12, 2007, 02:17:38 pm
Lawyers make good money out of this sort of thing. At Le Mans I always ask the chap in front to sign a "model release form", as if I ever were to make money out of all those pictures of the back of his head, he'll want a share.
There must be easier ways of making money. All that downloading, sorting, burning etc for a few quid. Unless you sell thousands of course.
The other problem is that photos on the web are not high definition - perhaps only 400 pixels wide, which is OK on the computer screen, but when printed as an A4 callender, your frogeyes gets blurred
There must be easier ways of making money. All that downloading, sorting, burning etc for a few quid. Unless you sell thousands of course.
The other problem is that photos on the web are not high definition - perhaps only 400 pixels wide, which is OK on the computer screen, but when printed as an A4 callender, your frogeyes gets blurred
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on September 12, 2007, 03:31:26 pm
Offer is still on ebay, I've mailed a complaint to them
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: termietermite on September 12, 2007, 04:54:52 pm
I have e-mailed the ACO press office. Watch this space....
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Nordic on September 12, 2007, 05:01:44 pm
Thanks for the help. :D
I know it is trival in some respects and the risk of this happening goes hand in hand with posting pictures on web sites, it has happened twice before to me that I know about.
The bigger problem is that there are many people who make a living from photography and for them to be ripped of so blantantly poses a bigger finiancal problem.
It is also probable he has used the work of Martin Krejci and his racingsportscar web page. Martin and others spend many hours building up free databases, only for it to be used by others and sold without referance or credit.
I know it is trival in some respects and the risk of this happening goes hand in hand with posting pictures on web sites, it has happened twice before to me that I know about.
The bigger problem is that there are many people who make a living from photography and for them to be ripped of so blantantly poses a bigger finiancal problem.
It is also probable he has used the work of Martin Krejci and his racingsportscar web page. Martin and others spend many hours building up free databases, only for it to be used by others and sold without referance or credit.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Steve Pyro on September 12, 2007, 05:54:25 pm
here's one I stole earlier, thanks Steve.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2405693780052760295EftbuQ?vhost=rides
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2405693780052760295EftbuQ?vhost=rides
I hope that was for your "personal use" Brian ;D
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: keithk on September 13, 2007, 08:02:07 am
I recently had to have words with a the web master of site which used one of my images taken directly from my site ( I had sent the link to him because I thought they might be interested) and his response was
"You sent me the link so I assumed that I could use what I wanted"! and this is someone who I've know for ten years and provided images for in the past......
"You sent me the link so I assumed that I could use what I wanted"! and this is someone who I've know for ten years and provided images for in the past......
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: JDS on September 13, 2007, 09:07:59 am
thought this may be interesting - it's Aussie law, but seems similar to that which I understand to be in force in the UK/europe and is nice and simlple. It's from www.catchfencephotos.com
Quote
What is copyright?
Copyright is a type of property that is founded on a person's creative skill and labour. It is designed to prevent the unauthorised use by others of a work, that is, the original form in which an idea or information has been expressed by the creator.
Copyright is not a tangible thing. It is made up of a bundle of exclusive economic rights to do certain acts with an original work or other copyright subject-matter. These rights include the right to copy, publish, communicate (eg broadcast, make available online) and publicly perform the copyright material.
Copyright creators also have a number of non-economic rights. These are known as moral rights. This term derives from the French droit moral. Moral rights recognised in Australia are the right of integrity of authorship, the right of attribution of authorship and the right against false attribution of authorship.
How do you obtain copyright protection?
No formalities - including no registration
The Copyright Act does not require the completion of formalities (such as publication, registration or the payment of fees) in order to obtain protection in Australia, or any other country which is also a party to an international copyright treaty. This is unlike the position with patents, trade marks, designs and plant breeder's rights where registration is a precondition to protection. Copyright protection is granted automatically from the time an original work is created.
Who is a copyright owner?
Works
Usually the creator of a literary, dramatic, m usical or artistic work is the first owner of the copyright in it, but there are several exceptions. One important exception is that copyrights in works made during the course of employment are owned by the employer and not the employee. All copyright ownership rules (except those that relate to moral rights) may be varied by agreement.
Copyright is a type of property that is founded on a person's creative skill and labour. It is designed to prevent the unauthorised use by others of a work, that is, the original form in which an idea or information has been expressed by the creator.
Copyright is not a tangible thing. It is made up of a bundle of exclusive economic rights to do certain acts with an original work or other copyright subject-matter. These rights include the right to copy, publish, communicate (eg broadcast, make available online) and publicly perform the copyright material.
Copyright creators also have a number of non-economic rights. These are known as moral rights. This term derives from the French droit moral. Moral rights recognised in Australia are the right of integrity of authorship, the right of attribution of authorship and the right against false attribution of authorship.
How do you obtain copyright protection?
No formalities - including no registration
The Copyright Act does not require the completion of formalities (such as publication, registration or the payment of fees) in order to obtain protection in Australia, or any other country which is also a party to an international copyright treaty. This is unlike the position with patents, trade marks, designs and plant breeder's rights where registration is a precondition to protection. Copyright protection is granted automatically from the time an original work is created.
Who is a copyright owner?
Works
Usually the creator of a literary, dramatic, m usical or artistic work is the first owner of the copyright in it, but there are several exceptions. One important exception is that copyrights in works made during the course of employment are owned by the employer and not the employee. All copyright ownership rules (except those that relate to moral rights) may be varied by agreement.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Nordic on September 17, 2007, 04:11:43 pm
A copy of the disk that has been brought by someone on the Atlas fourm has shown that the following watermarked pictures and webpages have been used in the creation of this cd rom.
Paul Kooyman
Jean-Eric Descombes
FD Lemierre
Bernard Brothier
Pascal Grandjean
Stephane Lusteau
Oliver Runschke
Richard Bunyan
T. Rondel
Laurent Le Maitre
Rick Wilson
Arquivo Curvelo
Phillippe Hubert
Francois Cornette
Washington Photos
and the following websites :
Racing-Live.com
Champion Racing
Maisonblanche.co.uk
Moteurnature.com
Project Le Mans
Perso.club-internet.fr
Club Arnage
Jacky Ickx
Paul Kooyman
Jean-Eric Descombes
FD Lemierre
Bernard Brothier
Pascal Grandjean
Stephane Lusteau
Oliver Runschke
Richard Bunyan
T. Rondel
Laurent Le Maitre
Rick Wilson
Arquivo Curvelo
Phillippe Hubert
Francois Cornette
Washington Photos
and the following websites :
Racing-Live.com
Champion Racing
Maisonblanche.co.uk
Moteurnature.com
Project Le Mans
Perso.club-internet.fr
Club Arnage
Jacky Ickx
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on September 19, 2007, 09:09:14 am
The offer has disappeared on ebay Gemany and ebay UK
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Nordic on September 19, 2007, 10:37:57 am
Thanks Werner and the others for the help.
It seems that the cd rom was using images harvested from many people without their knowledge or consent and ebay have taken down the offer.
He strangely never replied to my request for 30 euros for every image he used taken from my web site!
It seems that the cd rom was using images harvested from many people without their knowledge or consent and ebay have taken down the offer.
He strangely never replied to my request for 30 euros for every image he used taken from my web site!
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: keithk on September 19, 2007, 01:55:47 pm
Thanks Werner and the others for the help.
It seems that the cd rom was using images harvested from many people without their knowledge or consent and ebay have taken down the offer.
He strangely never replied to my request for 30 euros for ever image he used taken from my web site!
It seems that the cd rom was using images harvested from many people without their knowledge or consent and ebay have taken down the offer.
He strangely never replied to my request for 30 euros for ever image he used taken from my web site!
I reported him to Ebay and the ACO with links in the email to all the stuff he was selling including the book that was stopped and then burnt by the ACO for copyright infringement
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: monkey on September 19, 2007, 03:29:00 pm
The photographer owns the copyright. That is how it works. In your position, I would have sent the bloke an invoice for £10,000 for each shot and then pursued payment rigorously, just for my own entertainment. He would have pulled it off eBay pdq if you had I suspect ;D
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: amazing 1 on September 19, 2007, 08:38:29 pm
Thanks Werner and the others for the help.
It seems that the cd rom was using images harvested from many people without their knowledge or consent and ebay have taken down the offer.
He strangely never replied to my request for 30 euros for every image he used taken from my web site!
Nordic,what is the address for your site.It seems that the cd rom was using images harvested from many people without their knowledge or consent and ebay have taken down the offer.
He strangely never replied to my request for 30 euros for every image he used taken from my web site!
I would like to check it out.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Nordic on September 20, 2007, 08:39:13 am
Thanks Werner and the others for the help.
It seems that the cd rom was using images harvested from many people without their knowledge or consent and ebay have taken down the offer.
He strangely never replied to my request for 30 euros for every image he used taken from my web site!
Nordic,what is the address for your site.It seems that the cd rom was using images harvested from many people without their knowledge or consent and ebay have taken down the offer.
He strangely never replied to my request for 30 euros for every image he used taken from my web site!
I would like to check it out.
http://rupert8766.fotopic.net/list_collections.php
Here you go, bear in mind I was very young when I took most of them, and excuse the shakey, pooly composed efforts.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on October 14, 2007, 09:08:05 am
He's back again:
http://cgi.ebay.de/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330175837793QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330175837793QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.de/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330175837793QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LE-MANS-24-HOURS-1949-2007-DATABASE-6000-PICS-CD-1-43_W0QQitemZ330175837793QQihZ014QQcategoryZ101755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on October 14, 2007, 10:56:09 am
And gone again, app. 15 mins. after I wrote him an email threatening to report him to the tax office ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: termietermite on October 14, 2007, 11:04:39 am
Perfect!
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Nordic on October 14, 2007, 11:13:58 am
Thanks Werner,
I saw it yesterday and emailed the guy asking for 40Euros per picture or I would report him to ebay. He replied saying the photos were all his dads the cheeky monkey!
Seems like the German Tax office is a very good threat.
I saw it yesterday and emailed the guy asking for 40Euros per picture or I would report him to ebay. He replied saying the photos were all his dads the cheeky monkey!
Seems like the German Tax office is a very good threat.
Title: Re: Theft of images
Post by: Werner on October 14, 2007, 10:06:58 pm
Thanks Werner,
I saw it yesterday and emailed the guy asking for 40Euros per picture or I would report him to ebay. He replied saying the photos were all his dads the cheeky monkey!
Seems like the German Tax office is a very good threat.
I saw it yesterday and emailed the guy asking for 40Euros per picture or I would report him to ebay. He replied saying the photos were all his dads the cheeky monkey!
Seems like the German Tax office is a very good threat.
Well, it's a very realistic threat. There are regular news reports that the german tax authorities are scanning ebay auctions to find people who pose as private sellers but are actually doing business and are therefore tax evaders. What this guy does - compiling a CD and offering 6 copies as "Buy it now" is clearly commercial. Whatever you do, god may have mercy with you, but the german tax people won't...
