Club Arnage

Not sure if anyone is interested but Woollies, of all places, are doing half price generators. Can't be bad for £50! Mines on the way!

http://www.woolworths.co.uk/ww_p2/product/index.jhtml?pid=50899604 (http://www.woolworths.co.uk/ww_p2/product/index.jhtml?pid=50899604)

It's a good price, we use one as does Bob U, and they're perfectly adequate for running a fridge/freezer, phone chargers, stereos and a few lights, that kind of thing. You'd need something a bit more powerful if you wanted to run much more than that though.

Will it be powerful enough to plug a gang socket in and use those items you mentioned at once?

Cheers

No problem. Last year we ran 2 fridges, 2 stings of lights and a stereo at the same time without any problems.
The only problem we had was that it didn't like the HA dust and did start spluttering a bit towards the end of the weekend. Ater a strip down and clean it was OK again.
This year we will cover it with a polystyrene box with ventilation holes and hopfully keep the dust out and the noise in.

Was this running constantly?  How much juice (2-stroke I presume) did it use?

Yes, 2 stroke. It was running from 7ish in the morning until midnightish with 2 fridges constantly, stereo as and when and lights after dark. We turned it off at night to cut the noise (on Houx annexe? ::)) and also it was cooler so the fridges stayed cold all night. We used about 4 gallon of unleaded from Friday morning through till monday morning. I paid £50 for mine 3 years ago and have been well pleased with it. For £50 now I would say it is well worth the investment

Excellent, thanks!  Now, if only I could fit a fridge in the Celica...

We took one of these last year and it ran faultlessly all week-end got 10 hours on a tankfull (4 litre) of juice, only switched it off to refuel otherwise ran 24/7 from thurs am to mon am. powered fridge freezer, lights/xmas lights and stereo no problem.
however our one requred a different 2 stroke mix (1/20) for first 30 hours to run it in , then 1/50 after that, i ran ours in before we went over a few weekends (1/20 mix will be quite smokey and more likely to oil up plug)
another tip only mix up the 2 stroke as you need it (up to 5l at a time) then any unused petrol that hasn't been pre mixed can go in the car tank for return journey
good luck........ Tony

The Woolies one looks similar to the one on Focus DIY and the same price.
They also do a 2kw 4 stroke with a niose rating of 90db (it has a good size silencer on it) for £150 but it is alot bigger (about 24 x14x 18") but does have a big enough tank for about 12hrs running.

That will please the neighbours. :o

I was trying not to respond the Psycho running a gennie 24/7 - but since you've started Barry  ;D

Camp near me and run your gennie 24/7 and you might find it becomes faulty after the first night...

We'll have (only) a 6kW this year, to be doubled up by the Friday for the gigs. The generator during the week will be boxed in to reduce noise, and will only run about 18/24. No clue about noise level :-\
The second one won't be boxed in. I don't think that will be nescesarry on Friday ;D

its only 64Db and i had it boxed in , theres people f@rting louder than that

Oh god, somebody else noticed, and I try to keep it to 18/24 too, but its a struggle.


I'll bring my dB meter if it helps, but its more a case of complaint than figures, if you know what I mean

Wasn't commenting on the 24/7 running time, was pointing out that 90 db is enough to wake the dead, and the dead drunk. That is a very loud genny.

We had this "genny-all-night" debate on CA a couple of years ago and it all turned ugly when it was suggested that sabotaging someone else's genny was a good thing to do. Apart from being a criminal offence (criminal damage?) one would imagine it's a pretty sure-fire way to getting your head (or at least your car headlights) kicked in.

Might an offer of cold beer and a request for a little consideration be a better way forward rather than a resort to the destruction of the private property of others?

Yes yes I know....I'm actually too weak and weedy to inflict damage (and much too much of a coward) anyway I appear to be hardwired to obey all laws which is quite irritating for others at times!  ;D

It's the fumes from a genny as much as anything that are a problem - it always amuses me that those using the cheap and nasty smelly ones overnight always manage to tuck them away from their own tents and point them in the direction of their neighbours!   ;D

I dont think you will find 90db is very loud, the db scale doubles every increment and the small 650w gennys seem to be around 95db as a comparison. Saying that, consideration of ones neighours is a fair point, I spent an afternoon the other week touring the local Humphries Skips to find a silencer to fit on to mine, managed to find a twin box system thats spot on and shouldnt upset anybody now.

90 db is a bit loud.

The decibel scale is logarithmic, so every 3 dBA doubles the noise and every 10 dBA means a ten-fold increase: 90 dBA is 10 times louder than 80 dBA.

The law in the Uk for factories.


The Noise at Work Regulations 1989 say employers must reduce the risk of hearing damage to the lowest level reasonably practicable and maintain all equipment. The Regulations set two action levels, at 85 and 90 dBA.


Second Action Level: 90 dBA (2006: 85 dBA)
Employers must:

reduce exposure to noise by means other than ear protectors
mark ear protection zones
provide ear protectors to all exposed persons and ensure they are used in ear protection zones.
Employees must use ear protectors which have been provided.

From 2006 the exposure limit will be 87dBA. This will be the maximum permissible exposure measured inside any protective equipment.

We run a 58 db genny and that sounds loud at 2 am in the morning on MB, so we switch it off.

I stand (or fall over) corrected sir, and it does highlight the implication of buying a cheap genny and thinking that a 90db genny is going to be more social than a 95db one :police:

There's already something about this topic in the campsite netiquette part of the CA guide, I hope everybody agrees to this:

- Have a chat with your campsite neighbors before setting up a noisy generator alongside their pitch – offering cold beer or some electricity for their cooling devices will usually ensure acceptance.
- Setting up your tent close to a generator is entirely your fault - you have no reason to complain about noise if the genny was there first!

I've just bought a genny myself last week and the noise-level was the most important feature for me - not only because of the campsite neighbors, but also I myself don't like spending a whole week besides a noisy genny. But there is of course the price. Comparing 1-kw-gennies,  i found that cheapies run for less than 100 Euros, they're simple but produce usually around 90 db or even more. For a similar sized low-noise genny (less than 60 db) you have to pay at least 200-250 Euros, and if it should be an inverter type genny - sensible enough for electronics like DVD-Players. TV's, cameras - it's around 300-350 EUROS.

In general: we'll switch it off around 1 am, turn it on again around 8-9 am, we like a quite night ourselves For the cooling devices that's no problem, they'll keep the temperature until next morning and if we still need light after 1 am there are candles, gas-powered lights and torches and our battery-powered portable stereo will also still work.

If it's the one you used last year, that was really low-noise, I guess less than 60 db :D

No Werner, The one paddy had last year was a 35Kw if I remember correctly.

I guess that depends on how yo look at it.  Lets face it the Flying Baggettes were loudish and it all came from that generator in a roundabout kinda way.  ;D ;D ;D

t

30 KVA low noise diesel to be precise. Problem with that thing is, it weighs 1500 kilo's, so taking that one with us would leave no space for beer this year.

Usually on our campsite, we switch of when the last one goes to bed, as the stereo is mostly running all the time. And our neighbours won't complain, as they are hanging out with us anyway. ;D