Club Arnage

Hi All - and (soon) Happy Newyear !

I would very much like to upgrade the forum software - something I would normally just DO at some seemingly dead hour of the night, but this upgrade needs to mungle about in the database for some time (up to an hour or so, it claims) so I'd better post a warning before embarking.

How active do you expect to be eg tonight?  (forum-active, I mean, - don't start telling me of your other activities :-)  )

/DJet

I intend to do my tax return tonight, any help avoiding distraction would be very welcome.

F

That is ok, We can switch to www.drinkingforholland.nl for a couple of hours.

I will be there as well as sebringfans.com

Rick.

Well, the forum looks pretty quiet right now.

I guess that a lot of them will be spending the final saturday night of the year down some dodgy old pub.

I say go for it and I bet the bulk of the users won't even notice what you have done  ;) ;D

Happy New Year.

Personly I  think  if you just put up a page to replace the forum saying it in teh process of being upgraded adn will be back at XX:XX it shoudl do thte trick



T.

Does it bring us new features??

Go for it...

Time I went to bed.. long night tomorrow.  Do your worst.

Not that I'm aware of, - but it should make us less vulnerable to the attacks of the bad guys.   I have already upgraded my little Matra forum (matrasport.dk/forum) with apparent success.

I'll let the website-statistics system finish its (heavy) use of the servers RAM and CPU, and then set out to do the upgrade.

/DJet

I'd rather go to forum.drinkingforholland.com then Rick. ;)

Do your worst DJet, I'll keep an eye on all the busy posters on the DfH forum. ;)

ok, making backups now
upgrade starting in 2 minutes

Weeee!

We're back in business again.

Upgrade took its time, but seems to have done no harm ... which is good, I suppose :-)

I have also replaced the copyright with an image (with the same content) as I know the most popular way to locate a vulnerable forum is to google for the (required) copyright.

I don't mind showing the copyright, but I hate leaving the invitation in Googles database...

Enjoy our forum, and  please report odd behaviour... well odd behaviour that COULD be explained by the upgrade in this thread.

(This time of year I'm sure we can see a LOT of odd behaviour, but keep it to forum-behaviour which might have been introduced by the upgrade - ok? :-) )


And HAPPY NEWYEAR everybody

I'll get some sleep to be fit for fight tomorrow - ahm tonight. (I'm in the UTC+1 zone, i.e. 02:35 am)

/Djet

Good work Djet.

Thanks for your (late night) efforts.

It's all appreciated.

ND

Great stuff Djet,


I wonder how effective that will be.  It will take a long time to purge google of the cached stuff.
Plus it all get blown out the water if they google for say "some forums permit guests to read and post".

I guess it's just some thing we have to live with.

BTW,  Do you know there are still some problems with the DNS for Club Arnage?

T.

One problem is that the birthdays have popped back onto the calendar!  Happy Birthday Liszt by the way.

Sorted now Debs.

Yes! Thanks DJet
 Phil

I second that vote of thanks.

And happy new year to all. :-*


 ;)

Am I the only one with this problem?? If so, maybe I lost my cookies or something.

In the forum list view, it used to be that when I clicked the New tag next to a post it took me directly to the new post. Now it just opens the thread on page 1.

You're not alone, Smokie.  I was just about to report this problem myself.

Del

I think the up grade has reset all the posts because if you go through to page 200, all the topics are still new. Doon't know what will happen if some one posts after this message and then I click new

Nope, not working Stu.

I suspect it may be a cookie issue, so will delete my cookies and see what happens later with new posts.

It looks like a bug in the forum software to me.    The link has a #new at the end but there is no name of new anywhere in the page.

At least the DNS seams to be sorted now. :-)

T.

Hello, this is Lorry, using my alias.  It doesn't recognise the Lorry username anymore, although the posts are still there.  I think this happened before and cleared itself after a couple of days.  I'll try again tomorrow

I had the same problem as that yesterday eventually it let me log in?

The NEW button doesn't seem to work at all. I have cleared cookies and loaded pages, waited for someone to post there and then click NEW and it still took me to the first post. Not really annoying but would be nice to have the option back.

The system had logged both KK and I out.  I managed to log in fine but KK had trouble although got in eventually! 

Can I add (third?) the thanks to DJet and all involved with CA that make it possible for us to post mindless drivel for hours on end  ;D

Lorry - it works OK here but I had to change your password to check it. Will email your new password to you - then you can get in and change it.

A possible solution is to change the theme you are using. 

Change to "SMF Default Theme"  this has a couple of nice features.


1) The "new" button seems to work.
2) You can select to "Show unread posts since last visit".
3) You can select "new replies to your posts".

On the down side it limits the visible width of your Avatar.

t.

Since the update if I try to use ''the mark as read' button, I get a box come up reading 'session verification failed, try logging out and logging back in'
Any ideas anyone?

Thanks, I have now switched over to SMF. Very similar to the style used on SebringFans. If we get the new buttons back I may switch back over though.

Cheers.

HI Barry,   

I've not seen that problem and I've used it on a number of occasions since the upgrade.
Does it happen every time?   What browser are you using?

Tom.

On a slightly Pedantic note:-


The pages of the new forum claim to be Valid XHTML and CSS.  However, they are not.
This sholdn't cause any one any real problems but it is possible that some browsers don't render the pages as expected.

t.

Hi Tom


Won't let me mark items as read at all.
Browser, now that's getting a bit technical for poor old me, but it's explorer, which I have just realised was updated at about the same time as the CA upgrade. this could be the cause of the problem.
Any clues as to where to start would be welcomed by a non techie like me.

Cheers
Barry

My advice is to abandon Microsoft Internet Explorer and switch to firefox. It seems faster and is where most of the ideas in Internet Explorer 7 have come from! :police:

To get firefox go to www.getfirefox.com it is free and I think is a lot faster then the IE7 alternative.

Hi Barry,

Here are some things to do.

First to find out  which browser your using  click:  Help -> About internet explorer
That should bring up a window that says Internet Explorer 7  and gives the version I'm guessing it will say Version: 7.0.5730.11

If that is the case then it works for me as far as I can tell.

So next try changing your profile.
Click the Profile button. Then on the left click "Look and Layout Preferences"

You then see "Current Theme: Forum or Board Default (change)"  Click (change).
Then click  the "use this theme"  in the
"SMF Default Theme" pane.

See if that cures your problems.

Let me know how it goes.

T.

Thanks Tom


Will try when I'm sober.

Why I was pissed when I wrote the instructions. ;D ;D ;D ;D

t.

Hmm, I too have had the problem where trying to mark all messages as read gave the following error


I tried all the usual cookie deletion, logging on/off etc to no avail, but switching to SMF Default Theme does seem to have fixed the issues.

Now I just have to get used to the different look  :(

Help!  The calendar link seems to have developed a mini glitch - the only month I can link a topic to is the current one - no drop-down months in the menu.  Is this a result of the upgrade?

It looks like it works if you're using the SMF Default theme rather than the current / old theme.

Yes it does, thanks. :)
The only thing is Steve, that everybody's avatars have been chopped in half!

Hi Tom


Tried as you suggested and it then works ok.
Mark as read also does not work with the 'converted theme from YaBB SE' setting.


As I prefer the default setting, ( it's easier on my aging eyes), I'll have to swop over if i want to mark as read.

Thanks for your help

Barry

They are not actually chopped in half.  You will see that there is a scroll bar below the avatar that lets you horizontally scroll it. 
The style limits the avatar to a % of the width of the screen. On my 1280 x 1024 screen avatars that art 150px Avatars show completly but 200px Avatars require a bit of scrolling.

 IMVHO it's better that way since you don't get loose so much of the screen when people have large avatars.

T.

Mines okay  :P

Hi Barry,

Atleast we found a solution.  Though it sounds a bit clunky.  It may be easier to get a a better pair of eyes.
I've been looking for a pair for myself for a while.  If I find a supply I'll let you know.  :D :D :D

t.

Yohoh, strange things afoot!  Now the moggie (and everybody else's avatars) has got squashed - she looks very odd! ???

I saw that for a few seconds too.   Seems to have gone back to normal,  May be Djet is working some magic to fix things.
I just had really problems trying to even read the site.   It seemed to be very un responsive.

T.

I was just about to post the fact that the avatars were normal again when the site went down.  Up and running again and avatars look the way they should even in the new format. Phew.

heh - I ALWAYS work magic ... ahemmm .

Yes, this is becoming an increasingly big problem - we ran out of RAM in 2005, and since then we've been into a bit of a decline...

More RAM (a lot more, actually) is underway, but not arrived yet. I constantly try to eliminate unneeded processes, and to slim others, to make do with what we have.

/Djet

Steve's avatar is OK

Praise be

I never used those "clever" features, wouldn't know how to. How much internetting time do some of you beggars get anyway...

Cor

I never even knew there was a problem, is it fixed now or should I go meddling with it to see wossappning?

 :-[

No, I expect I'd break it and I don't want you all blaming me...

I don't know if this is a problem unique to me but I just had a look at my profile (something I don't do often) and noticed that my e-mail address was suddenly public, which it had not been before.  Others may like to check theirs?

Yep mine too, even tho its ticked to keep hidden.  Wont let me delete it either.

F

It still seems to be visible termie, I can see your addy in your profile at the moment.

I cannot see Frans, it is hidden.

Mine also shows, but I do not know if this is because it is my own profile. Perhaps someone can have a look and report back. It is currently set to NOT show.

Thanks.

I cant see yours Mr I  - but can see termie's

F

Very interesting, but disturbing (I've reported this but the mods are having a day off!).  I updated my profile and my e-mail was hidden.  Logged out, came back and it's public again!  Humph.

Au contraire - yours is hidden now too!

F

Phew, that's good.  But everybody needs to check theirs, I think, as the software probably made more than just ours public all of a sudden.

Yep, it seems that you need to unhide it, then rehide it once more to make it hidden again.

I guess that you can always see your own addy in your own profile.

Anyone else who wishes to hide their email may wish to ensure it is still hidden. Having a quick check on various users, it would seem that most are visible at the moment.

A day off?? I don't think so!!

The moids have no real control over the forum software, this is Lennarts. I have emailed him with these problems, in particular the email one. How's about changing your address to something invalid while he is fixing it (which I hope he can?)

Ok, did I click something, or are all topics all for a sudden reversed? ???

I thought the same thing LangTall, seems as all topic posting are running in the reverse order as yesterday.

For a terrible five miniutes I thought I had forgotten how to use the fourm or i was pissed at 7.30am

The hole thing has gone about face!. When you go to a tread you go to the oldest first and the newest post is now top of the page!

Oo'er - DJet had a look at the email thing last night and made a change or two. I *think* this is caused something in your profile - "move new posts to the top" or something like that. He might have applied a setting globally inadvertently. Check your profiles to see how they are set (haven't got time to look meself right now but will later...)

I got a problem here. I can only view new posts when using as a guest. When I log on I can't see anything new. Help please any ideas?

Thank Christ it's not just me, I wondered why nothing made sense - I finally watched the final Torchwood episode last night...I thought someone had opened the rift  :o

edited to add - my email address has become public, if people need to fix their own it might be worth a separate stickied thread.   I get really twitchy about things like that being visible.

I got the upside down threads when I logged on and was able to change it in my profile (as suggested above).  Take a look at your profile Bob and see if there's a tick in one of the boxes that shouldn't be there (or vice versa). D-jet...Help...!

Just checking something.... ???

I am now getting new posts but they are all upsidedown and arse about face. Oh no, I don't  need this this morning. I've got a hangover, I'm tired and I wanna go back to bed.


I got it sorted. A box ticked in my profile that shouldn't have been. normal service is resumed. ;D

I too noticed this problem of the order going upsidedown.

I fix it you go Profile -> Look and Layout Preferences.

Then untick The "Show most recent posts at the top". Then  "Save Profile".

I fixed this yesterday and now it switched again.

I don't know what happend to cause my profile to change.

May I suggest that if a "Global" change is made then it's noted so we know there has been a change.

I think an official annoncement about the email address becoming visible should be made by a moderator or administrator.

It could be unrelated but I am never sure. Photobucket sent me an email claiming I requested my password details sent to me. However the last time I was on Photobucket was over a year ago. Strange.

Oh dear, all of a sudden most have to get a forum crash course here ;D

I've been on the SMF forum to ask for some support, and I created an account so that one of the nice people there can have a look. I know he/she has been on recently, so maybe there will be an answer to the New issue shortly...

Smokie -  it seems to be displaying the right way round for me now, although it is running v.v. slowly betwen screens on both my computer at work and at home today.  But of course that could be becaise of something completely different.  Keep plugging away mate, the hard work is much appreciated.

MG Mark

Of course

Oh yes, very.

Fine this morning and much, much quicker, ta

MG Mark

Hi everybody, I'm back.

My fault too

I too had the upside down thread thing too but I unticked the box.
The speed seems to be fine for me at work and home so perhaps it's now been sorted.
Thanks again for this site whether it's fast or slow.

Our beloved server is having a hard time, getting old and the memory cannot cope.

However, it has proven to be mighty difficult to locate the *exact* and correct RAM
modules for the little so-and-so. This morning several things were tried, but nothing
really worked.
I have a few other options lined up, which I'd like to try tomorrow morning (DK time)

SO, now you're warned that there might be the occasional outage of this forum
tomorrow morning (Jan 19 2007). I know thats like like holding your breath, but I'll
try to make the least possible impact.

/DJet

I'm sure we can all put up with a few hiccups. Your efforts are very much appreciated

Here,here I second that.

just for notes,

Ihave just discovered that if I go through the forum without signing in, the latest update is at the end of the row.

But once I have logged in, the latest report is at the front of the list.

Is this normal?

You have "Show most recent posts at the top." ticked in your profile, under "Look and Layout Preferences"

Some confusion to what the standard should be may have caused that, - but either way, you can reset it by unticking it.

Since the last upgrade, many people may have found the look&feel has changed. This is probably because we try to run the new software, with the old Theme. Some of the features we were used to in the old version, has now moved into the theme, and since we're using the old theme, they are not there.

Personally I have changed to a copy of the bundled Theme - which I have called "default with CA modifs". Its different, but I think it is the way to go.  When we're finished testing/polishing, it will be made the forum default.

/DJet

Notice your swear filter needs redoing since the upgrade.