Title: Baby Bertha
Post by: Nordic on October 14, 2006, 09:12:57 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkxxpMI__5o
Baby Bertha and Gerry Marshall. Special saloons in the 70's. Makes the plastic BTCC look a bit tame.
Baby Bertha and Gerry Marshall. Special saloons in the 70's. Makes the plastic BTCC look a bit tame.
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Fran on October 14, 2006, 10:06:37 am
great clip - nice to see all those old cars.
There was quite a bit of extra ballast he was carrying compared to the skinny lil drivers these days ;D
F
There was quite a bit of extra ballast he was carrying compared to the skinny lil drivers these days ;D
F
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Steve Pyro on October 14, 2006, 10:12:48 am
First class bit of nostalgia. Well spotted Nordic.
Luvverly to hear a minimally silenced V8 in a 'saloon' car.
Luvverly to hear a minimally silenced V8 in a 'saloon' car.
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Martini...LB on October 14, 2006, 01:44:21 pm
Well that didn't look to hard did it...
>Martini...
>Martini...
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: garyfrogeye on October 15, 2006, 03:00:07 am
Love it,
Win the chapionship, hitch up your trousers, go and have a pie ;D
Win the chapionship, hitch up your trousers, go and have a pie ;D
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: DickieAttwood on October 15, 2006, 03:04:10 pm
.........and a pint
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Lorry on October 15, 2006, 05:57:40 pm
Excellent. I saw him a few years ago in a historic Marcos, you just knew he'd win.
Its success ballast! Thats my excuse
Its success ballast! Thats my excuse
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: termietermite on October 15, 2006, 06:26:48 pm
Excellent stuff, well found! Brings back memories... even went to a GM benefit meeting at Brands once. Top bloke. ;D
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Fran on October 15, 2006, 07:13:19 pm
Its success ballast!
A lot of high achievers in CA then! ;D
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Snoring Rhino on October 15, 2006, 07:23:17 pm
Thanks Noric, great clip and sound, dont think the noise luveys would allow it now though :(
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Lorry on October 15, 2006, 09:58:07 pm
I wonder if we'll look back on the current races/cars/drivers the same way.
I think we might so its one of my excuses not to miss another Le Mans, even though it has been a bit tedious recently (the race that is)
But it does seem to have been a lot better in those days
[/sad old git mode off]
I think we might so its one of my excuses not to miss another Le Mans, even though it has been a bit tedious recently (the race that is)
But it does seem to have been a lot better in those days
[/sad old git mode off]
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Nordic on October 16, 2006, 08:46:56 am
I wonder if we'll look back on the current races/cars/drivers the same way.
I think we might so its one of my excuses not to miss another Le Mans, even though it has been a bit tedious recently (the race that is)
But it does seem to have been a lot better in those days
[/sad old git mode off]
I think we might so its one of my excuses not to miss another Le Mans, even though it has been a bit tedious recently (the race that is)
But it does seem to have been a lot better in those days
[/sad old git mode off]
Thats a very good point. In some ways the DTV cars where looked upon by some as a sledgehammer to crack a nut. When you compare the relative resourses of them compared to the rest of the field it is possble to draw a light parrel with the VAG team in the the modern world.
The Bertha cars dominated the series almost winning as they liked, and the special saloon series was never the same again.
Having said that, its a great car and my belief, then as now, its up to the others to a better job!
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Andy Zarse on October 16, 2006, 04:05:53 pm
All a little before my time but here's a good one from UTube, especially for those intending to go to Bathurst:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAgSTTNSVnU&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAgSTTNSVnU&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: Bob U on October 16, 2006, 04:13:59 pm
Great clip but I don't think TW would appreciate being called an Englishman :o
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: garyfrogeye on October 16, 2006, 04:33:02 pm
Great bit of film especially the cornering on two wheels bit.
Title: Re: Baby Bertha
Post by: DickieAttwood on October 17, 2006, 12:08:42 am
Having said that, its a great car and my belief, then as now, its up to the others to a better job!
Exactly
The others could tap Ford or BL competition departments for parts & expertise - Vauxhall weren't in the game at all until Bill Blydenstien started developing the HA Viva, even then there was no factory support. DTV and enthusiasts at Luton was the only way it could be done. There were plenty of other tuning companies around who could have built their own special saloons.
D.A.
Exactly
The others could tap Ford or BL competition departments for parts & expertise - Vauxhall weren't in the game at all until Bill Blydenstien started developing the HA Viva, even then there was no factory support. DTV and enthusiasts at Luton was the only way it could be done. There were plenty of other tuning companies around who could have built their own special saloons.
D.A.
