Club Arnage

http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/ well what do you think.

I like it. It looks like a spaceship. Not sure about the windscreen though.

Yeah - I like the look of it too very futuristic, I rather like the wraparound screen as well.  8)

This looks really good. The screen design is excellent.

>Martini...

Ehm, where are the doors ? How do they do a driver change ? No air out takes on the front wheels ? ??? Nice pictures, though.

http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/images/9081.jpg
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http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/images/9082.jpg
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That's a bit picky!!

>Martini...

Oh dear, and they present the RS Spyder in Europe as if it was something new. I'm sorry, but Porsche has done better in the past... very poor marketing.  ::)

Guess they assume it'll be going so fast it doesn't need things like....mirrors, brake ducts, doors.
Remember when the Peugeot 905 was revealed? Remember what it actually ended up looking like on the track?
Me thinks more of the same.  I doubt the actual car bares much resemblance to this.  Hope so, personally I think it looks like a red & white turd.
Fax

No resemblance to a coupe at all. It looks exactly as it is an open prototype with a roof slapped on it. More like a childs fantasy

Ah Fax, I missed the mirrors. Very well observed (SP :police:).

Mind you - nice to see that Autosport is no longer subscriber only

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/54711

Liked the closed top radical SR10


Looks very nice, as sportscars should look. And something new. Well done. Now lets see ifs its more than a one off.

(http://www.mariantic.co.uk/lmp/images/sr10a.jpg)

A thumbs up from me.  Personally I prefer the closed coupe style of protoypes to the open cars.  So the LMP1 rule change gets my official approval  ;)

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I like the look of it.

Hope it hasn't changed too much by the time it gets to the grid.

I agree with Steve, now lets see if it gives Audi a run for its money.

Pictures of the new version of the RS Spyder can be found here.

http://www.endurance-info.com/article.php?sid=2667&thold=0

Some major body work revisions for starters.

Apparently I'm alone in this, but I think it looks hideous and outdated already.  Looks like something a sixteen year old kid drew up on his computer after watching a sixties episode of Star Trek, with Audi R8/R10 wheel arches grafted on to it. WTF? There is absolutely nothing clever about it, looks like a Audi with a roof on it. Paint it green and its a fricking Bentley.  I understand the nostalgia over old Group C days but is this really the answer? Big f**cking deal, a diesel LMP1 car with a lid.  Hell if your all weepy over the Group C days watch the Daytona prototypes, they're basically Group C2 cars with spaceframe chassis, and the Rolex series has a sh**tload of them on the grid.  Whats the point in making LMP1 cars coupes? its the SAME CAR AS A SPYDER !  They think they're going to excite more interest than the current spyders?  If you've only got a handful of cars in the class it doesn't matter if they're coupes, spyders, or fricking top fuel dragsters. Numbers and competition create interest, not two or four ultra expensive diesels silently running off into the sunset.
Fax

Looks good to me, clearly have to change to add doors etc. Any new entry into the LMS is welcome. Hopefully with both Audi and Porsche racing in europe next year alongside the Courages etc we could be in for a good season.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=2826

Some more images

Fax, chill a bit you will give yourself an ulcer!

All correct, the only advantage of closed cars is the better aerodynamics. Appart from that I don't really see anything that speeks for LMP coupes. On open cars you can see who's driving, getting in and out is much easier and it gives better access to the driver in case of an accident. I don't really know where the LMP coupe hype comes from. I can't really see the point in LMP coupes.

Most likely reason is that a coupe has more place for advertising / sponsor stickers on the car - roof

Peugeot and Porsche will enter the full LMS season. Rumour has it that Joest will enter an Audi in LMS, so I'm really looking forward to next season!

If they are able to sell any cars. At this price you could run a LMP1.

Remember the Saturday morning Group C race a couple of years ago? Every one looked different, and not just because of the livery.
Surely with a coupe there is more scope for design differences. I for one am bored with seeing a grid of Audi lookalikes and look forward to the return of closed cars.
Saying that, I don't like the look of the Peugeot, as FAX said it looks like a 16 year old designed it, but IMHO, a step in the right direction.

True, but it would surprise me if they couldn't. Porsche has a remarkable reputation. You buy yourself a potential class winner and a possible overall winner when the circumstances are right. I say it's easier to get sponsorship for that approach than the forecast of being 7th in LMP1.

Have you ever been in an open car at over 100mph, let alone 200mph?  Its not just aerodynamics, its driver survival.  And they're prettier, with one exception, the 908

If that is what your turds are like then your ar*e must be even more weird than than your brain.  I suppose it is to be expected though if you will insist on communicating through it...

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Oldtimer, wow! Your really all about personal attacks aren't you?  I can express my opinions without every other posting making a reference to someone's grey matter or lack thereof.
Great, you guys like it.  I think it will be just like the Audi R10, it'll be silent and souless, but hey! Its a coupe!
Fax

I think it looks great, lets hope they retain some of the design integrity with the final car. This diesel thing has been touched on before, but I wouldn't mind raising it again. To me endurance racing is about testing technology to near breaking point with the aim of improving the efficiency, reliability and safety of cars. I understand (at last) at this weeks Paris motor show Audi have promoted the technological links between their new road car coupe and their success in racing and particularly their success at the Worlds Greatest Motor race Le Mans.

For Le Mans to flourish, or for that matter to even survive then surely manufacturers must be able to find a real commercial benefit from being there and if it is about proving that your diesel engine or (in a few years time perhaps) your 'oil seed rape powered' vehicle can compete and even win there then I think these ideas should be welcomed.

I love the sound of a racing engine disappearing into the night, echoing through the woods on its way from Mulsanne to Arnage........but if silent diesels are where the technology needs to be heading, then so be it.

Sorry if this is off thread or been said before. Having a quiet day at work and felt like a ramble
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And people have accused me of taking posts on this forum too seriously...