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Title: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Neil on June 26, 2006, 09:54:46 pm
I need help, does anyone have any ideas how to get revenge on my neighbor???
As a friend he asked me to rip out his old bathroom and separate tiolet, and rebuild a whole new bathroom with a fitted suite and shower, new flooring and lowered ceiling with spot lights. It has taken me about 2 weeks to complete, and now he refuses to pay me for my work. I have nothing in writing as was doing this for a favour for my friendly neighbor.
Of cause I want to wrap a baseball bat round his head, but wish to do something that won't get me caught.
Any ideas ???


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Paddy_NL on June 26, 2006, 10:04:28 pm
Nothing discussed like in a Gentlemens Agreement up front?

Two full weeks of work and no pay is a little over the top for "a favor for your neighbor" though.

I'd get a very nasty big f*ckoff BBQ, and get some disgusting coles and start burning tyres and plastics on hot summer nights when the wind is right ;)


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Ferrari Spider on June 26, 2006, 10:07:35 pm
verbal contract exists, you can't tell me that a neighbour just let you in to do the building work if it hadn't been requested him, sue his arse, go round and remove the kit, follow up customer surveys our specialty ;)


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: nopanic - neil on June 26, 2006, 10:10:04 pm
What planet does your neighbour live on. Unless you’re a saint, why does he think you did it?

If he says he’ll remember you in his will, tell him you know people who can move him closer and quicker to his maker than he wishes.

Not sure what the real answer is, but why did he think you were doing it in the first place?


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Dave H on June 26, 2006, 10:10:24 pm
I'm confused.  "As a friend he asked me..."  So was your impression that he was going to pay you?  Did you discuss being paid, or did he think you were mates and literally just doing him a favor?


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Rhino on June 26, 2006, 10:29:26 pm
If you have discussed it with him and he still won't pay i would contact the citizens advice bureau. They are very helpful.
I had a complete tosser of a neighbour who fell out with us because we couldn't remember there first names! Used to call him Mr and surname, but not good enough for him.
We called the CAB and it was worked out.
If you do anything that is reported to the police, when you or them sell the house, it will go down on a search as bad neighbours, affecting the sale ofm your house.
And make a plastercine doll of them and stick pins in it, a great stress reliever ;D


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: nickliv on June 26, 2006, 10:31:17 pm
Dog poo is a wonderful substance.

I got very poor service from a garage a couple of years ago, and could get no redress from them, so I put some fresh dog eggs in a jiffy bag, and hand delivered it to the garage before opening time.

Could be a problem if the guy's your neighbour, you could send it to him at his work.

Bit of a last resort though.


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Chris24 on June 26, 2006, 10:36:18 pm
Pouring sour milk through his letter box during summer when he is away for a few days is a good one. ;)


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: SpriteII on June 26, 2006, 10:37:34 pm
Tell him you are aggrieved and expect payment.

Maybe try to reach a compromise

Use the small claims courts, I'm not an expert but I understand the financial risk is minimal.

But don't try to spite him, he may well turn out to have a higher nastiness threshold than you.  Home is where we go to relax, do you really want it to be a war zone?

Worse case scenario walk away wiser but with the moral highground.

 


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Neil on June 26, 2006, 10:49:15 pm
It was a sort of Gentlemens Agreement, where he needed someone to do the work, and me being a good friend ( at the time ) and good at DIY, offered to do the work at a cost we both agreed too. However, as the work went on, he started to try and add more work, which wasn't agreed at the begining so declined and said I'll finish what we agreed to do and then you can pay me. After all the work was done, he refused to pay me because I didn't carry out this extra work. This turned into a full shouting argument in my street, in front of the other neighbors, at which at that point decided to walk away as did not want look like the bad neighbor in front of the others. Since then have told all my other neighbors what he has done to hopefully get everyone to hate him. But his the sort of twat who doesn't care what other people think of him.
I need revenge on this " Long haired afro white loud mouth twat". ARGHHHHHH!!!!


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Matt Harper on June 26, 2006, 11:44:17 pm
Hmmm. I'd be inclined to straight-arm him - but that won't get you paid and may get you arrested - or worse, filled-in by him.
Who paid for the materials?
I would try a reasonable and civilised approach before sticking one on him. Sprite11 makes a very valid point - your home is your refuge, not a war zone.
I'd politely ask him if he genuinely believed you did all this work for him without expecting to be paid - and does he think that to be reasonable?
If he won't pay you for what you've done thus far, he can hardly use the excuse  that you didn't do follow-up work, so you aren't getting paid for the original job.
Maybe he's skint. I know it's a compromise, but how about, "Hey if things are a bit tight for you right now, how about you give me 50 quid a week until it's paid-off", or something similar. If you remain composed and reasonable - and be seen to be making an effort to compromise, it is more difficult for the other party to be a tvvat, unless they are naturally a tvvat. If the latter is the case, I'd tell him that you are going to get paid one way or another and that you can do it the civilised way or the other way, how would he like to proceed?


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: alibongo on June 27, 2006, 12:16:46 am
Not from milton Keynes is he??? have had similar experince, some people go thro life suckering others and think its ok to do so, I expect the geeza has been thro the phone book and run out of tradesmen to con!!!! Like the other guy said just blank the twat and remember " what goes around comes around" eventually the opertunity will arise and you shall have your revenge !!! (In my case the geeza had his car crushed ,no tax,.....wot a shame) tee hee ;D


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Dave H on June 27, 2006, 02:04:36 am
It was a sort of Gentlemens Agreement, where he needed someone to do the work, and me being a good friend ( at the time ) and good at DIY, offered to do the work at a cost we both agreed too. However, as the work went on, he started to try and add more work, which wasn't agreed at the begining so declined and said I'll finish what we agreed to do and then you can pay me. After all the work was done, he refused to pay me because I didn't carry out this extra work. This turned into a full shouting argument in my street, in front of the other neighbors, at which at that point decided to walk away as did not want look like the bad neighbor in front of the others. Since then have told all my other neighbors what he has done to hopefully get everyone to hate him. But his the sort of tw**t who doesn't care what other people think of him.
I need revenge on this " Long haired afro white loud mouth tw**t". ARGHHHHHH!!!!

Is this 2weeks of work you would have earned on another job had you not been working for him?  Have you got kids?  These are all leverage points.  Threatening etc. is not going to get you what you want unless you are scary big and renowned pscyho in your area - even then, it's destined to end in disaster.

We've all been taken in business to some degree or another.  Sometimes you just have to notch it up as a painfull lesson and move on.  Or kill his family.



Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Rusty on June 27, 2006, 07:40:05 am
As you fitted the bathroom you obviously know where the soil pipes are, I suggest a short load of concrete down the nearest manhole cover should cause him enough distress when his shitter backs up and overflows. Just make sure it is deep enough in the pipe so he has to dig up half his property.

He'll obviously blame you due to the work you did, but you'll be able to explain to him that as it was a favour and he didn't pay you then there is no guarantee against shoddy workmanship.

Rusty


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: SIMONR on June 27, 2006, 09:17:54 am
Part P of the building regs could be used as a big stick if you did any electrical work in the bathroom.

Tip off the LA building inspector and get them to go round  ;)

Simon


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Bob U on June 27, 2006, 09:52:51 am
Last resort?


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Neil on June 27, 2006, 03:22:23 pm
Funny pic LOL. This man does have kids like me, which makes it hard has his boy is my son's best mate. My Uncle had the same idea as Rusty, to fill his waste pipe with concrete and watch the crap go everywhere, brillant. Or to found his stop cock outside, turn it off and then fill it with contrete.

 However, like before, don't want to get caught doing damage to his property as don't want to be the BAD neighbor where I live.

 So, have come up with a plan to get everyone I know to come round my house with a screwdriver and hammer, get my boy to knock on his door and then all barge in and un-do everything that I did, so he left with nothing but just the goods that he paid for.

 If this does happen, promise to get photos of this happening and shall post later. But if I cowardly leave it all, shall hold my head up high, learn from my mistake, and kidnap his wife..................only joking ;D ;D


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: nickliv on June 29, 2006, 05:27:38 pm
Is there anything you want to tell us? ;D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/5125486.stm


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: BigH on June 29, 2006, 06:23:07 pm
Neil,
You seem like a nice chap.
Could you see your way clear to putting in a new kitchen for me?
H


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Black Granny on June 29, 2006, 08:45:04 pm
Neil,
You seem like a nice chap.
Could you see your way clear to putting in a new kitchen for me?
H

H

This isn't a tax dodge by any chance is it?


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Lawnmower Man on July 01, 2006, 11:53:30 am
My aproach to this would be to have another chat with him.  Be reasonable.  It is only fair that he pays for the work you did.   Try to reconcile the friendship you obviously had.  If he won't see reason go to the Small claims court.   

I really don't think trying to get revenge will help.  You could end up in one of those neighbor fron hell situations. 

t.


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: Chris (Liverpool Boys) on July 11, 2006, 11:22:11 am
I can understand you predicament entirely as some may know on here I was a self employed plumber/property maintance business, sole trader on my own it became so much of a ball ache trying to get money off people who say you havent done this or that when it wasnt part of the job i have jacked it in and took a full time job driving HGV. Far less hassle!!!!!

I am still owed £2500 in total from two people who refused to pay as I did not do extras they wanted to add on for free (an extra 3 days work on one and 2 on the other) the reason why le mans did not happen for me this year.

I have since got half of this back by turning up at the house in question with a couple of mates a chainsaw and sledge hammer to take back my materials the front pourch i built for them. I threatened to knock it down they called the police who said as long as i did so and removed all the rubbish with me that was fine as i had not been paid for the materials and as soon as i started the chain saw low and behold out comes a wad of £20's. With the well we were going to pay you we have had the money here all along blah blah blah

the other I am having to go through court with which is a pain in the arse but i may get it back eventually.

hope this helps


Title: Re: Getting revenge on a bad neighbor
Post by: bird on July 11, 2006, 06:01:07 pm
Sign him up for all the junk mail you can.

Call the Jehovah's Witnesses pretending to be him and tell them you are interested in joining.

Buy your son a drum kit.

And a trumpet.

HTH  ;D