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Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Paddy_NL on March 20, 2006, 12:08:43 pm



Title: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 20, 2006, 12:08:43 pm
Just heard about a piece of roofing tumbling after a loud bang of the New Wembley, workers seem evacuated. ???
Was just on the Dutch radio :-\


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Nordic on March 20, 2006, 12:11:07 pm
Yep, my mate who works on site is standing ousite along with 3500 others while an investigation happens.

The load bang was followed by the roof dropping a couple of feet.

edit to say.
All seems ok now a beam slipped, it won't fall down!


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 20, 2006, 12:18:41 pm
Okay, that sounds good.

Now at least they have an excuse not to be ready for the Final ;D


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Robspot on March 20, 2006, 12:29:35 pm
Nordic

Can you find out from your mate exactly where in the stadium this beam is so I can make sure I buy seats as far away as possbile for the next England match  :o


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Nordic on March 20, 2006, 12:46:36 pm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4824448.stm

I would won't be rushing to buy any tickets for wembley.

a dodgy weld caused the problem, but you have to wonder how many more are there.

but avoid the northen end if you have to go!


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Bob U on March 20, 2006, 01:14:12 pm
The beam was 50 metres by 2 metres :o That must have made one hell of a bang. Luckely no-one was hurt


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Ferrari Spider on March 20, 2006, 01:33:19 pm
On the news they said that the company is paying £125,000 per day for the delay, so thats about £0.75 million per week or there abouts for failing to acheive the practical completion date.

Also they will be picking up the wages for all the workers that have been sent home because of the beam collapse.

say 3,500 workers x £300 per day = £1 million.

Will the stadium get finished?



Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Robspot on March 20, 2006, 01:44:16 pm
If we can't get a British company to build it, we may as well try and bankrupt an Australian one  ;D


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 20, 2006, 06:26:57 pm
If we can't get a British company to build it, we may as well try and bankrupt an Australian one  ;D
Invite the Polish, cheap enough :-X


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Robbo SPS on March 20, 2006, 06:38:06 pm
Wembley was never going to be finished


The new Cardiff Arms park will be used. Its been planned for for a while.


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: jpchenet on March 20, 2006, 08:03:25 pm
I've heard it from the horses mouth that it won't be ready until August!!

Looks like Bon Jovi will have to re-arrange!


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Ferrari Spider on March 20, 2006, 08:05:19 pm
I've heard it from the horses mouth that it won't be ready until August!!

Looks like Bon Jovi will have to re-arrange!

 
;D ;D aUGUST 2007  ;D ;D


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Brad Zarse on March 20, 2006, 08:31:24 pm
The longer the better - half my contractors work on that site!  keep em there!!

The best story i've heard is the irish bookies "paddy power" being taken to the cleaners by the multiplex contractors when they started giving odds on the stadium not being ready.  They took over £100,000 in bets before they realised this was probably not a great idea - one of the contractors who works through my comapny put £22,000 on.....  ::)


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Ferrari Spider on March 20, 2006, 09:26:27 pm
- one of the contractors who works through my comapny put £22,000 on.....  ::)


Long time since I've been involved in a project of this size, can you give us an idea of rates of pay Brad.


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Brad Zarse on March 20, 2006, 11:55:40 pm
Peter,

Depends what theyre doing really - sparkies and plumbers take about £160 - £170 a shift, dependant on qualifications and loyalty bonuses and a couple of other things.

My specialist area is Quantity Surveyors, the going rate for an MRICS QS with about 5 years post qualification experience is about the £350 per day mark, again dependant on experience and qualifications, some of them take about £275, some of them you have to push to about the £500 mark....

I'm a recruitment consultant just to be clear, not a consultancy punting people out to work on site - most of my work is done through consultancies, who then charge the client, main contractor, or whoever asks them for the work of the worker that I've supplied - i daresay by the time they've indemnified all of the work, made theyre margins etc that theyre looking at about £600 - 700 per day to the client!

big numbers, none of which help the stadium get built!

the guy that put £22,000 put half his life savings on - his wife nearly divorced him for it....imagine the hassle the missus would give you if you did that!

Hope that helps!

Brad


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Robspot on March 21, 2006, 09:26:33 am
the guy that put £22,000 put half his life savings on - his wife nearly divorced him for it....imagine the hassle the missus would give you if you did that!

Do you think making this bet would have affected his work output?  ;D


Title: Re: new Wembley collapsing?
Post by: Stu on March 21, 2006, 11:10:14 am
If Wembleys like our PFI fire station you'll have a long wait. We are due to move in next week after it being 21 months over due. I can't seem to grasp the fundamentals of knocking down something you own, then building a new one on the land you own and renting it for 25 years as its cheaper.