Title: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on February 26, 2006, 06:00:48 pm
Me again, did you miss me? less than 3 weeks until the track opens!
"Sebring... everything before and after is just waiting" thats what Steve McQueen says :D
1982 - 2nd Place - March 82G - Rahal/Trueman/DeNarvaez
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/067.jpg)
1982 - 20th Place - Lola T-600 - Cooke/Adams/Hobbs
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/068_2.jpg)
want more?
-Lee
Thousands of images at my disposal
"Sebring... everything before and after is just waiting" thats what Steve McQueen says :D
1982 - 2nd Place - March 82G - Rahal/Trueman/DeNarvaez
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/067.jpg)
1982 - 20th Place - Lola T-600 - Cooke/Adams/Hobbs
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/068_2.jpg)
want more?
-Lee
Thousands of images at my disposal
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on February 26, 2006, 07:23:24 pm
I see, looking but not talking, I'll take that as a "yes, more photos please"
1983 - 56th place (from Pole) - Paul Jr/Bell/Michael Andretti
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/093.jpg)
1983 - 3rd Place - Haywood/Holbert
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/101.jpg)
your silence only encourages me :)
-Lee
1983 - 56th place (from Pole) - Paul Jr/Bell/Michael Andretti
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/093.jpg)
1983 - 3rd Place - Haywood/Holbert
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/101.jpg)
your silence only encourages me :)
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fran on February 26, 2006, 07:40:56 pm
Go for it Lee... dont let the ghostly silence bother you... we seem to have a lot of quiet "guests" these last few days.
I am glad there isnt so much brown in race car colours since the 80s tho. :)
I would be interested to see some older Saleens if they have been around for a while (if you are taking requests that is...)
I am glad there isnt so much brown in race car colours since the 80s tho. :)
I would be interested to see some older Saleens if they have been around for a while (if you are taking requests that is...)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on February 26, 2006, 07:41:33 pm
I'll keep silent then
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Martini...LB on February 27, 2006, 12:25:54 am
And I am not saying a word...see you at Sebring.
Martini...
Martini...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on February 27, 2006, 01:01:28 am
well, if you're gonna beg... ::)
Fran: I'm working chronoloigically, will take a bit to get to the saleens...
1985 - 53rd Place (from Pole) - Porsche 962 - Akin/Stuck/Mullen
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/134.jpg)
From Porsche Turbo USA, Pg. 37: Fastest of the 962s, Bob Akin’s pole-sitting Coca-Cola entry, piloted by Bob, Hans Stuck and Jim Mullen. Coca-Cola sponsored the race and the team and they started from the pole. Excellent press release material. Stuck’s 1:31.574 was three-and-a-half seconds better than the Holbert entry in 2nd. Taking the lead on the fourth lap, things couldn’t have looked better. For the first hour, Stuck’s Red Rocket was dominant. At the first fuel stop they were headed by Tullius’ Jaguar, then they chased the #67 BF Goodrich Porsche. Sadly, in the third hour, it all went away. “Mullen was motoring down the backstretch at something approaching 200 miles per hour when debris blew his right rear tire and the exploding tire ripped up the rear of the car, ‘it tore the car apart’ is how Akin put it.”
-Lee
Fran: I'm working chronoloigically, will take a bit to get to the saleens...
1985 - 53rd Place (from Pole) - Porsche 962 - Akin/Stuck/Mullen
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/134.jpg)
From Porsche Turbo USA, Pg. 37: Fastest of the 962s, Bob Akin’s pole-sitting Coca-Cola entry, piloted by Bob, Hans Stuck and Jim Mullen. Coca-Cola sponsored the race and the team and they started from the pole. Excellent press release material. Stuck’s 1:31.574 was three-and-a-half seconds better than the Holbert entry in 2nd. Taking the lead on the fourth lap, things couldn’t have looked better. For the first hour, Stuck’s Red Rocket was dominant. At the first fuel stop they were headed by Tullius’ Jaguar, then they chased the #67 BF Goodrich Porsche. Sadly, in the third hour, it all went away. “Mullen was motoring down the backstretch at something approaching 200 miles per hour when debris blew his right rear tire and the exploding tire ripped up the rear of the car, ‘it tore the car apart’ is how Akin put it.”
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on February 27, 2006, 02:47:12 am
Do you have any pit shots of the Garrettson 934 that won overall?How about some old Turn10 to get us in the mood? ;D ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on February 27, 2006, 10:01:32 am
How about some old Turn10 to get us in the mood? ;D ;D
My God, Randy! Do you need old pictures to get in the mood? I just need an entry list and a calender to get all exited. Only 110 days 'till LM... :P
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: rcutler on February 27, 2006, 12:14:25 pm
Only 110 days 'till LM... :P
Even less until we leave ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: LangTall on February 27, 2006, 01:04:54 pm
Only 110 days 'till LM... :P
Even less until we leave ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on February 27, 2006, 01:18:11 pm
Only 16 days for us, you guys should ask if they can hold your race any earlier.
1986 53rd - Jaguar XJR-7 - Tulius/Robinson/Ballott-Lena
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/178B.jpg)
1986 74th place - only 10 laps - Engine - Moretti
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/189.jpg)
-Lee
tent-check, coolers-check, golf club-check
1986 53rd - Jaguar XJR-7 - Tulius/Robinson/Ballott-Lena
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/178B.jpg)
1986 74th place - only 10 laps - Engine - Moretti
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/189.jpg)
-Lee
tent-check, coolers-check, golf club-check
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on February 27, 2006, 01:41:58 pm
Great pics Lee, love the photo of Bob Akin's Coca Cola 962. I always had a soft spot for that car. However I have very sad memories of the Coke 962 from the Mid-Ohio IMSA round in 1986. It was the weekend after Le Mans and Bob's team had painted a large black stripe across the nose of the car in memory of Jo Gartner. Jo was part of their winning trio along with Hans Stuck and Bob Akin at Sebring and his death was weighing heavily on everyone at Mid-Ohio that weekend.
Fax
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on February 27, 2006, 02:50:09 pm
Fax: I was at that race. Mid-Ohio '86. I'll see what I can find and scan this afternoon. The car went out early in the race, with Stuck driving. Coasted to a stop on the front straight, Stuck hopped out and pulled the engine cover off. electrics I believe. The team seemed visibly relievedtheir race was over.
By contrast, In the Holbert garage they had the Le Mans victory wreath on a stand.
mixed emotions. -Lee
By contrast, In the Holbert garage they had the Le Mans victory wreath on a stand.
mixed emotions. -Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on February 27, 2006, 03:07:53 pm
Yes, I do remember very clearly now remember seeing Al's victory garland on display. Spent a good deal of Saturday down in the paddock and one could sense that everyone's thoughts were on Jo, he had become a very popular member of Akin Racing and the IMSA community as a whole. Bob's usually merry band were obviously very shaken.
Fax
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on February 28, 2006, 03:46:52 am
Fax: here you go, knew I had 'em. Mid-Ohio '86
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/MidOhio_86_1.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/MidOhio_86_2.jpg)
almost lost the second shot to the processing machine... kinda mangled
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/MidOhio_86_1.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/MidOhio_86_2.jpg)
almost lost the second shot to the processing machine... kinda mangled
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on February 28, 2006, 04:02:51 am
...but back to the race at hand.
Can you smell the orange blossoms yet?
1987 - 5th Place - Porsche 962 - Akin/Weaver/Shelton
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/250.jpg)
1989 - 52nd Place (from 2nd) - Nissan GTP-ZXT - Luyendyk - only 14 laps, suspension failure.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/397-10.jpg)
The sister #83 car won the race, in the team's first attempt.
more tomorrow
-Lee
Can you smell the orange blossoms yet?
1987 - 5th Place - Porsche 962 - Akin/Weaver/Shelton
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/250.jpg)
1989 - 52nd Place (from 2nd) - Nissan GTP-ZXT - Luyendyk - only 14 laps, suspension failure.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/397-10.jpg)
The sister #83 car won the race, in the team's first attempt.
more tomorrow
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: gab on February 28, 2006, 07:32:51 am
...fantastic photos Mr. Self, and yes, I can smell the orange blossoms.
13 days, 17 hours and 25 minutes till Miami touchdown.
13 days, 17 hours and 25 minutes till Miami touchdown.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fran on February 28, 2006, 08:43:20 am
... kinda mangled
Yep and the picture is a bit squished too! ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on February 28, 2006, 02:46:07 pm
Thanks Lee,
Can smell the orange groves from here.
Fax
Can smell the orange groves from here.
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on February 28, 2006, 02:55:00 pm
87/89 is my favorite era. Please can I have something from the early 90s as I can't remember what was running (Fangio Jr's Toyotas?). In those days there must have been Sebring, Daytona and the Miami Grand Prix, all in one state. Wasn't Derek Bell in Miami Vice?
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Martini...LB on February 28, 2006, 07:19:23 pm
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/MidOhio_86_2.jpg)
almost lost the second shot to the processing machine... kinda mangled
-Lee
Tidied it up for you Lee
Martini...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on February 28, 2006, 10:27:13 pm
If you dont show the Garrettson 934 and some old Turn 10 pics.I'm gonna,I'm gonna ,well I'm goona FART in your general direction! :o
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Martini...LB on February 28, 2006, 10:55:24 pm
If you dont show the Garrettson 934 and some old Turn 10 pics.I'm gonna,I'm gonna ,well I'm goona FART in your general direction! :o
Calm down Randy, you might blow your hat off!
I bet you always wanted your pressies before your birthday.
Martini...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 01:09:37 am
Randy came to my house and farted in my genral direction.
So's here's what I got of the 934
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/111.jpg)
FACT
-Lee
So's here's what I got of the 934
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/111.jpg)
FACT
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 01:12:41 am
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/686-2.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/691-2.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/693-3.jpg)
;D ;D
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/691-2.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/693-3.jpg)
;D ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 01, 2006, 01:18:09 am
Okay Lee & Randy, you got me convinced with those pictures. Obviously I am too late for this Sebring Race, but are there any recent pictures ('05) available to show what it is like today with fencing and camping and stuff? 8)
Btw Randy, finished the printwork on McQueen Sr. today - Pieter will bring that one definitely. Pic of print will follow tomorrow...
Btw Randy, finished the printwork on McQueen Sr. today - Pieter will bring that one definitely. Pic of print will follow tomorrow...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 01, 2006, 02:03:21 am
Fencing? What the hell is that? Must be a French thing ;)
Sorry, not many photos of debris fencing at Sebring because there isn't any. Still allowed close enough to the cars to actually see them without binoculars. Spectating is still like it was in those pics.
Fax
Sorry, not many photos of debris fencing at Sebring because there isn't any. Still allowed close enough to the cars to actually see them without binoculars. Spectating is still like it was in those pics.
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 01, 2006, 02:12:40 am
Posted this once before but its worth another look.
The 1972 Peterson-Schenken Ferrari 312PB from the pit roof. Its March!
Fax
The 1972 Peterson-Schenken Ferrari 312PB from the pit roof. Its March!
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Chris24 on March 01, 2006, 02:35:02 am
As Fax has said not much catch fencing here. All these are taken from speccy areas. Not media passes needed. I will take one if someone wants to give me one though !
Not Corvette behind the Aston Martin.
Sorry for picture quality, I need practise with pixels and resizing
Not Corvette behind the Aston Martin.
Sorry for picture quality, I need practise with pixels and resizing
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Chris24 on March 01, 2006, 02:37:19 am
One for Lee and Randy
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 03:13:39 am
Okay Lee & Randy, you got me convinced with those pictures. Obviously I am too late for this Sebring Race, but are there any recent pictures ('05) available to show what it is like today with fencing and camping and stuff? 8)
Btw Randy, finished the printwork on McQueen Sr. today - Pieter will bring that one definitely. Pic of print will follow tomorrow...
Btw Randy, finished the printwork on McQueen Sr. today - Pieter will bring that one definitely. Pic of print will follow tomorrow...
Paddy, it looks just like this only with newer cars.
RE: "pics of '05 cars" I'm getting there, the race isn't for 12-13 more days. plenty of time to run through the slide sheets.
Looking forward to hoisting the banner! Was Steve McQueen ever a pirate?
-Lee
Randy & I both have camping stuff loaded into our vans. (well, not all of it)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 03:17:16 am
(http://www.clubarnage.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4613.0;id=2026;image)
YAAAAHHHH!
One for Lee and Randy
YAAAAHHHH!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 05:01:51 am
Me again. Last of the GTP's
1993 - 1st overall (from Pole) - Toyota Eagle MkIII - Wallace/Fangio
what a great car! Dan Gurney Rocks!
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Toyota_758.jpg)
1993 - 1st overall (from Pole) - Toyota Eagle MkIII - Wallace/Fangio
what a great car! Dan Gurney Rocks!
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Toyota_758.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 05:05:10 am
< < < Hey, I just noticed I'm a Jr. Member, instead of a newbie!
52 posts WOO Hoo
-Lee
52 posts WOO Hoo
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 01, 2006, 10:29:20 am
How about some old Turn10 to get us in the mood? ;D ;D
My God, Randy! Do you need old pictures to get in the mood? I just need an entry list and a calender to get all exited. Only 110 days 'till LM... :P
Here's another visual, printed yesterday, for Sebring Turn 10 :)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Steve Pyro on March 01, 2006, 10:30:59 am
Okay Lee & Randy, you got me convinced with those pictures. Obviously I am too late for this Sebring Race, but are there any recent pictures ('05) available to show what it is like today with fencing and camping and stuff? 8)
Paddy, have a look at all the wonderful photos I took of Sebring 2005 in my Webshots online gallery here - (including the Turn 10 wedding)
http://community.webshots.com/album/302390817JubWln
and
http://community.webshots.com/album/302429987TvgQYa
All taken from legitimate spectator areas. Hopefully I'll get more great photos this year.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 01, 2006, 10:33:31 am
that's a 20 inch screen bytheway ::)
cheers Steve (http://dfh.vandijkonline.net/images/smiles/icon_thumbsup.gif)
cheers Steve (http://dfh.vandijkonline.net/images/smiles/icon_thumbsup.gif)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: jpchenet on March 01, 2006, 11:25:59 am
One for Lee and Randy
Nice shot Chris. This pretty well sums up how good the viewing is and how close you are to the action.
Jealous as hell now that I'm not going to be there this year :'(
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Bob U on March 01, 2006, 11:32:59 am
< < < Hey, I just noticed I'm a Jr. Member, instead of a newbie!
52 posts WOO Hoo
-Lee
If you keep posting photos as good as these Lee then roll on your YabGod status 8)52 posts WOO Hoo
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 02:46:47 pm
Quote
Paddy, have a look at all the wonderful photos I took of Sebring 2005 in my Webshots online gallery here - (including the Turn 10 wedding)
Steve, Lee here.
Any chance you can burn me a DVD of your wedding footage and bring it over with you? With you having been in the gallery, and catching the bouquet and all...
thanks in advance, see ya soon.
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on March 01, 2006, 03:19:01 pm
Please can we get back to thread. Was it ever this good
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on March 01, 2006, 03:21:32 pm
Sorry, didn't mean it to be a quiz, but who is the arrow pointing at. I can't remember.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Andy Zarse on March 01, 2006, 05:58:12 pm
Sorry, didn't mean it to be a quiz, but who is the arrow pointing at. I can't remember.
You mean the bloke in the crowd?? Sorry I can't quite make his face out.
If you mean the 917, it looks like a Martini "Hippy" car to me.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 06:05:42 pm
people, people... can't we all just get along?
I won't have this thread turn into a my race is better than your race debate.
Simple fact is that they are both the best race in the world. Having been to both I can say that without hesitation.
Sebring is best, and Le Mans is also best. There its settled. :)
-Lee
more pics this evening, Florida time... your night-time
I won't have this thread turn into a my race is better than your race debate.
Simple fact is that they are both the best race in the world. Having been to both I can say that without hesitation.
Sebring is best, and Le Mans is also best. There its settled. :)
-Lee
more pics this evening, Florida time... your night-time
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 01, 2006, 06:39:14 pm
Hmm, in the name of stirring up sh*t (something I do well) I will take sides.
Having been to both, Sebring is by far the better event, especially after the way the ACO has f**ked up the circut at Le Mans.
Kindest Regards,
Fax (The Trouble Maker)
Having been to both, Sebring is by far the better event, especially after the way the ACO has f**ked up the circut at Le Mans.
Kindest Regards,
Fax (The Trouble Maker)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Andy Zarse on March 01, 2006, 06:54:16 pm
Terms of reference Fax? I agree Sebring is a far better race to actually watch, even if it is only half as long. That much is indisputable. The LMES at Silverstone and probably all the other curcuits used in ALMS and LMES are better than Le Mans from the speccys point of view.
As to it being a better "event", I'm not so sure. Le Mans is a much bigger event in terms of spectator numbers and probably the atmosphere is more charged. The race start is more dramatic, or at least was, except now they gone and stuck the stupid effin chicanes in at Dunlop. On balance, I reckon I agree with Lee, they're both best.
As to it being a better "event", I'm not so sure. Le Mans is a much bigger event in terms of spectator numbers and probably the atmosphere is more charged. The race start is more dramatic, or at least was, except now they gone and stuck the stupid effin chicanes in at Dunlop. On balance, I reckon I agree with Lee, they're both best.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 01, 2006, 07:09:38 pm
Andrew, yes probably looking at it more from a spectating viewpoint. Both have a great festive atmosphere, LM more of a international flavor. Sebring is a great celebration of the arrival of spring and a chance to party off some of the winter cobwebs. Agree somewhat about the start, I think both have an electric feel, Le Mans perhaps a bit more build-up because of the far later start time. As I mentioned on another thread however, I find the sight of the field braking to a stop at the Dunlop Chicane about the dumbest sight in all of motor racing.
Fax
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 01, 2006, 07:43:00 pm
On balance, I reckon I agree with Lee, they're both best.
Well I'm glad we got that settled.
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fran on March 01, 2006, 09:18:12 pm
;D - i cant help sniggering every time i see "klein tools" - esp when i saw the driver with it written on the belt of his overalls! 8)
For my pennyworth, the biggest point against Sebring for me would be having to pass thru US Customs and Immigration - that is an experience I will NEVER repeat - not even if I was offered a ride round the circuit in the jockey seat!!!
For my pennyworth, the biggest point against Sebring for me would be having to pass thru US Customs and Immigration - that is an experience I will NEVER repeat - not even if I was offered a ride round the circuit in the jockey seat!!!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Martini...LB on March 01, 2006, 09:40:30 pm
Here's another visual, printed yesterday, for Sebring Turn 10 :)
that's a 20 inch screen bytheway
Paddy nice poster, your DFH stickers look good by the way.
I have produced a CA Sebring banner by the way, in the style of the T shirt front but undated, which I am obviously taking to Sebring. Hope nobody minds.
By the way I have 2 x flat 20" on my desk one Mac & one PC oh and a 17" iMac at home, not bragging, just lucky.
Martini...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on March 02, 2006, 04:11:09 am
How about some old Turn10 to get us in the mood? ;D ;D
My God, Randy! Do you need old pictures to get in the mood? I just need an entry list and a calender to get all exited. Only 110 days 'till LM... :P
Here's another visual, printed yesterday, for Sebring Turn 10 :)
How ccooooolllll is THAT ?!!!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 02, 2006, 05:23:11 am
For today's lesson. A look at Sebring '05. Current, Trendy
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Saleen_05.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Dyson_05.jpg)
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Saleen_05.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Dyson_05.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 02, 2006, 05:24:27 am
More Sebring '05
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Champion_05.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Champion_05.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 02, 2006, 05:27:41 am
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Vette_05.jpg)
Corvette's and Aston Martins. To be continued '06
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Astons_05.jpg)
How ccooooolllll is THAT ?!!!
-Lee
Corvette's and Aston Martins. To be continued '06
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/Astons_05.jpg)
How ccooooolllll is THAT ?!!!
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fran on March 02, 2006, 08:43:33 am
Thanks for the Saleen :-* - yummy
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: jpchenet on March 02, 2006, 08:48:47 am
Steve, Andy and I were chatting to some of the guys from the Saleen team (including the retired MD) at Turn 3 (???) about an hour into the race last year. They were really excited about taking the car to Le Mans and invited us to visit tghem in the paddock. Real shame they didn't make the trip in the end!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 03, 2006, 01:32:55 am
Here's another visual, printed yesterday, for Sebring Turn 10 :)
that's a 20 inch screen bytheway
Paddy nice poster, your DFH stickers look good by the way.
I have produced a CA Sebring banner by the way, in the style of the T shirt front but undated, which I am obviously taking to Sebring. Hope nobody minds.
By the way I have 2 x flat 20" on my desk one Mac & one PC oh and a 17" iMac at home, not bragging, just lucky.
Martini...
Which is 105 by 160 cms by the way, so that must be about a stone and three quarters in your measurement :-\
By the looks of all these great pics it might just be Sebring and Le Mans for me in 2007. No LMES then and I might get away with it at home :(
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 03, 2006, 01:39:54 am
Hey Paddy. how do I get my hands on a Drinking for Holland shirt?
I'll give you cash money, american for it. Can it come over with the banner?
thanks. -Lee
(http://premium1.uploadit.org/paddyNL//lammers-shirt.jpg)
I'll give you cash money, american for it. Can it come over with the banner?
thanks. -Lee
(http://premium1.uploadit.org/paddyNL//lammers-shirt.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 03, 2006, 01:44:46 am
Shouldn't be a problem Lee, Pieter is bringing one for Randy already anyway. Just a matter of producing another pre-season copy, I'll work on that next week :)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 03, 2006, 02:36:30 am
Shouldn't be a problem Lee, Pieter is bringing one for Randy already anyway. Just a matter of producing another pre-season copy, I'll work on that next week :)
YAAAAHHH! ...and thank you. -Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 03, 2006, 02:44:56 am
pick your choice ;D
(http://premium1.uploadit.org/paddyNL//lammersshirt.jpg)
(http://premium1.uploadit.org/paddyNL//visitorsshirt.jpg)
(http://premium1.uploadit.org/paddyNL//lammersshirt.jpg)
(http://premium1.uploadit.org/paddyNL//visitorsshirt.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: knetter on March 03, 2006, 10:12:57 am
Paddy,
We should start planning soon for 2007. Seeing all these pics, I will definately join you!!
We should start planning soon for 2007. Seeing all these pics, I will definately join you!!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Bob U on March 03, 2006, 11:15:10 am
Paddy my friend are you putting the DFH shirts up for sale?
If so I would like the bottom one in XL.
Could always trade you a shirt for an invitation for you guys to the curry evening at Donnington LMES in August.
If so I would like the bottom one in XL.
Could always trade you a shirt for an invitation for you guys to the curry evening at Donnington LMES in August.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Barry on March 03, 2006, 12:34:53 pm
Like Bob could I purchase a DfH shirt if they are available please?
Bottom one XXL
I presume that it they are front and back designs shown, or are there 4 different front designs?
Sorry no currys to offer in exchange, just cash.
Cheers
Barry
Bottom one XXL
I presume that it they are front and back designs shown, or are there 4 different front designs?
Sorry no currys to offer in exchange, just cash.
Cheers
Barry
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Doris on March 03, 2006, 12:39:33 pm
Oh dear Paddy. Look what you've started!!!
Could I have one of the bottom ones in a small please? Like Barry I can only offer cash.
Could I have one of the bottom ones in a small please? Like Barry I can only offer cash.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: rcutler on March 03, 2006, 12:40:39 pm
Myself and a few others can be seen in last years retro model!!!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: knetter on March 03, 2006, 01:43:00 pm
Should we start a who want's an original DFH shirt thread then?
We will print extra shirts of course, they will be on sale at Le Mans. But I am sure that Paddy can take orders up front, just to make sure that the size you want is available!
We will print extra shirts of course, they will be on sale at Le Mans. But I am sure that Paddy can take orders up front, just to make sure that the size you want is available!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Barry on March 03, 2006, 02:00:25 pm
Should we start a who want's an original DFH shirt thread then?
Yes please
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 03, 2006, 02:54:51 pm
(http://premium1.uploadit.org/paddyNL//visitorsshirt.jpg)
Paddy_NL, re: new thread, Yes please, Even though I started it you have completely hijacked this Sebring photos thread. ...and I would really like the one on the bottom with the :Drinking for Holland" on the back. you the man, we're not worthy, nove move along and foster your own thread...
-Lee
"If I just drive this GT Porsche for a few years I'll get to drive the new prototype"
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/photos/porsche/650/porsche_027.jpg)
Should we start a who want's an original DFH shirt thread then?
Paddy_NL, re: new thread, Yes please, Even though I started it you have completely hijacked this Sebring photos thread. ...and I would really like the one on the bottom with the :Drinking for Holland" on the back. you the man, we're not worthy, nove move along and foster your own thread...
-Lee
"If I just drive this GT Porsche for a few years I'll get to drive the new prototype"
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/photos/porsche/650/porsche_027.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 03, 2006, 03:24:15 pm
Should we start a who want's an original DFH shirt thread then?
Paddy_NL, re: new thread, Yes please [...]
Sorry Lee, didn't mean to 'steal' your topic. Our own forum is pretty famous to go off topic though, that might just be it ;)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 03, 2006, 04:23:49 pm
No harm, no foul. Now be off with you.
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/photos/family/jerri_sbr.jpg)
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/photos/family/jerri_sbr.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 03, 2006, 04:29:09 pm
dusk... in the safety pin, real hairpin in the background.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/photos/porsche/650/porsche_029.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/photos/porsche/650/porsche_029.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on March 04, 2006, 02:06:22 am
Thank god this has got back to thread, but can we have less 911s please. When I started taking an interest in motorsport, (and America was still a colony in those days), 911s were racing and goddammit they still are, and there are so many other cars that we never saw this side of the pond.
What on earth is the red and white thing next to the lady blowing bubbles.
What on earth is the red and white thing next to the lady blowing bubbles.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Chris24 on March 04, 2006, 02:14:06 am
Good question, it could be anything out at Turn 10. Depends what junk people are throwing out the week before the race ! LOL What is it, who cares, lets take it to Sebring !
Hey Lee, if you are lucky, maybe thats not all Jerry will be blowing at Sebring ? ;)
Hey Lee, if you are lucky, maybe thats not all Jerry will be blowing at Sebring ? ;)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 04, 2006, 03:26:14 am
Lee,
Lorry's looking for something they never saw on their side...
I'm thinking one of the Dykstra Monza's?
The Vette GTP obviously but already out here...Dammit think Fax!
How about "The Claw" (Red Lobster March)
I'll leave it up to you...
Hold it!
The '94 winning Nissan 300ZX GTS...Wohooo!
That was a badass car, also the Roush Mustangs!
Fax
Lorry's looking for something they never saw on their side...
I'm thinking one of the Dykstra Monza's?
The Vette GTP obviously but already out here...Dammit think Fax!
How about "The Claw" (Red Lobster March)
I'll leave it up to you...
Hold it!
The '94 winning Nissan 300ZX GTS...Wohooo!
That was a badass car, also the Roush Mustangs!
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on March 04, 2006, 04:31:22 am
Yeah we talked about the roush cars over the years,what happened.Do I have to come over again and fart in your general direction? huh huh ? Do I ? ;D ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: garyfrogeye on March 04, 2006, 10:20:09 am
(http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1985/Sebring-1985-03-23-065.jpg)
What, like that?
What, like that?
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on March 04, 2006, 02:59:18 pm
Aaaahhhh yyeeesssss!
I would have to say my favorite would be the Whistler Cougars.
Does anyone else have a favorite Roush car?
I would have to say my favorite would be the Whistler Cougars.
Does anyone else have a favorite Roush car?
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 04, 2006, 06:00:15 pm
I'm with you Randy, the 1990 red Whistler Cougars were nice, Robby Gordon and Dorsey Schroeder if memory serves me right, also liked the mid-eightes Scott Pruett, Tom Gloy Mustangs and XR4's. I remember whenever Roush needed a ringer they'd ask Klaus Ludwig to pull double duty and race both the GTP Probe and a GTO car.
Fax
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: suthvid on March 04, 2006, 06:57:55 pm
OK Lee, I'm #79! Love the thread! How about the oldest Sebring photo you have, that you took? Oh, and the oldest photo that is NOT a Porsche! (heh, heh, heh, the challenge of the quest!)
John
John
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 04, 2006, 08:34:23 pm
How about the oldest Sebring photo you have, that you took? Oh, and that is NOT a Porsche!
John
John
OK John, your request first: I have two from 1978 :)
a Pantera
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/pantera_78.jpg)
and the Pole sitting BMW 320i
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/BMW320i_78.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: suthvid on March 04, 2006, 09:03:08 pm
Very nice! What corner is the bimmer in? The original hairpin?
John
John
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 04, 2006, 09:04:06 pm
Yeah we talked about the roush cars over the years,what happened.Do I have to come over again and fart in your general direction? huh huh ? Do I ? ;D ;D
Yes, Randy, I think you SHOULD come over again.
-Lee
Roush Mustang 1986 - Scott Pruett sitting on fender
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR86_Roush.jpg)
Roush Mustang 1987 - Lynne St. James
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR87_Roush1.jpg)
Roush Mustang GTX 1987 (to try to compete with the 935's )
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR87_Roush2.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 04, 2006, 09:04:45 pm
Very nice! What corner is the bimmer in? The original hairpin?
John
John
Yep. in the "real" hairpin
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 04, 2006, 09:10:15 pm
Roush Cougar - Strohs - My best shots of the Whistler cars are from Daytona and therefore not valid for this thread.
-Lee
1989 - Roush Cougar - Finished 10th OA, 2nd in GTO Pete Halsmer/Bob Earl Sister car finished 1st in GTO!
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR89_Roush.jpg)
and drivers from '91 "Hi, I'm Dorsey Schroedererer" "...and I'm Price Cobb"
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR91_drivers.jpg)
-Lee
1989 - Roush Cougar - Finished 10th OA, 2nd in GTO Pete Halsmer/Bob Earl Sister car finished 1st in GTO!
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR89_Roush.jpg)
and drivers from '91 "Hi, I'm Dorsey Schroedererer" "...and I'm Price Cobb"
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR91_drivers.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on March 04, 2006, 10:20:11 pm
Whilst us Brits claim to be the centre of the universe for motor racing, why do these picture look so good. Why do I love Can Am/Pikes Peak. Permission granted to go off thread for a 917t or faster
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 04, 2006, 10:26:41 pm
HUGE Thanks for the BMW pic Lee!
My personal God, Superswede was one of the finest drivers of the Munich flame throwers, sadly only made one Sebring start in the 312PB in '72. Usually a GP conflict with Sebring but drove them many times at Daytona and The Glen. I think he may have been busy winning the South African GP over Sebring weekend in 1978. His long time co-driver David Hobbs once told me co-driving with Ronnie could be maddening because he said he would spend lap after lap in the car in qualifying, getting down to a really fast lap, put one in thinking he'd put in the perfect lap and was really going like a bat out of hell, come in and hand the car over to Ronnie and within two laps Ronnie would go a second a lap faster! Hobbs has a big smile on when he was telling me this.
Fax
My personal God, Superswede was one of the finest drivers of the Munich flame throwers, sadly only made one Sebring start in the 312PB in '72. Usually a GP conflict with Sebring but drove them many times at Daytona and The Glen. I think he may have been busy winning the South African GP over Sebring weekend in 1978. His long time co-driver David Hobbs once told me co-driving with Ronnie could be maddening because he said he would spend lap after lap in the car in qualifying, getting down to a really fast lap, put one in thinking he'd put in the perfect lap and was really going like a bat out of hell, come in and hand the car over to Ronnie and within two laps Ronnie would go a second a lap faster! Hobbs has a big smile on when he was telling me this.
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fran on March 04, 2006, 11:08:16 pm
Whilst us Brits claim to be the centre of the universe for motor racing
We do? :-\
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 05, 2006, 12:31:50 am
Your a man of taste there Lorry, Can-Am was my first love. Not going to boast BUT...I saw Mark Donohue and the Penske Porsche 917/30 race in person, never a more sublime combination of driver & car. The first two racing cars I ever saw at speed were the factory McLaren M8F's of Denny Hulme and Peter Revson, doesn't get any better than that.
The race to the clouds is special too, for years the stomping ground of the Unser family, during the eighties the WRC teams brought some Group B rockets over to claim the hardware and greats like Walter Rohrl, Michele Mouton, Ari Vatanen, etc. graced the Rockies.
Fax
The race to the clouds is special too, for years the stomping ground of the Unser family, during the eighties the WRC teams brought some Group B rockets over to claim the hardware and greats like Walter Rohrl, Michele Mouton, Ari Vatanen, etc. graced the Rockies.
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on March 05, 2006, 01:19:55 am
It must be something to do with the subtle use of brute force.
And remember, "if brute force doesn't work, you're not using enough."
I have some recent photos of an M8 somewhere. Can't find the black & white pictures of the 8F and the Howmet. I bought a negative scanner today, as you can never have too many photo of Brands Hatch
Strangely, "California Dreamin'" has just come up on Media Player. It was a dream in those days but reality for '07, and I'm still tempted to pull the plug next week for Sebring.
And remember, "if brute force doesn't work, you're not using enough."
I have some recent photos of an M8 somewhere. Can't find the black & white pictures of the 8F and the Howmet. I bought a negative scanner today, as you can never have too many photo of Brands Hatch
Strangely, "California Dreamin'" has just come up on Media Player. It was a dream in those days but reality for '07, and I'm still tempted to pull the plug next week for Sebring.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Chris24 on March 05, 2006, 01:46:11 am
Lee have you any of the Roush Mustang that robby Gordon drove to class honours at the Rolex 24. Not sure what year it was but it was white with the american flag down the side or on the roof, not sure which. I need some pictures for reference as i have the model to build
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Chris24 on March 05, 2006, 01:48:50 am
Err, this one. Daytona 1993.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 05, 2006, 04:50:56 pm
Lee have you any of the Roush Mustang that robby Gordon drove to class honours at the Rolex 24. Not sure what year it was but it was Err, this one. Daytona 1993. I need some pictures for reference as i have the model to build
Chris -- I'll track down some picss for you after Sebring (unless you're working on it now)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 05, 2006, 05:01:05 pm
OK all, here's another one you Euro's only got too see race once at Le Mans, but we got to see race for three seasons.
The Clayton Cunningham Nissan 300 ZX Turbo
Sebring 1994 - 38th Overall (from 3rd) - Leitzinger/Gentalozz. It lists Millen and O'Connell on the door as
well but they were shown on both cars. They never drove the #76, it was out after 121 laps (roughly 4 hrs)
the sister #75 won overall with Millen/O'Connell/Morton.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR94_Nissan1.jpg)
and a look at her guts...
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR94_Nissan2.jpg)
-Lee, the lesson continues...
The Clayton Cunningham Nissan 300 ZX Turbo
Sebring 1994 - 38th Overall (from 3rd) - Leitzinger/Gentalozz. It lists Millen and O'Connell on the door as
well but they were shown on both cars. They never drove the #76, it was out after 121 laps (roughly 4 hrs)
the sister #75 won overall with Millen/O'Connell/Morton.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR94_Nissan1.jpg)
and a look at her guts...
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR94_Nissan2.jpg)
-Lee, the lesson continues...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 05, 2006, 05:09:23 pm
who needs motor racing books, just look here! ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 05, 2006, 09:15:02 pm
Lee,
Haven't consulted the books or the web today but refresh my memory, did the GTO Audi's race at Sebring or just the sprint events? Saw Hurley & Stuckie have a hell of a battle at Mid-Ohio in 1990 with the Jean Sage entered JP Jabouille-Olivier Grouillard driven Ferrari F40.
I know the Ferrari never made a Sebring appearance (or did it?) but the Audi's not sure about.
Fax
Haven't consulted the books or the web today but refresh my memory, did the GTO Audi's race at Sebring or just the sprint events? Saw Hurley & Stuckie have a hell of a battle at Mid-Ohio in 1990 with the Jean Sage entered JP Jabouille-Olivier Grouillard driven Ferrari F40.
I know the Ferrari never made a Sebring appearance (or did it?) but the Audi's not sure about.
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on March 05, 2006, 09:23:28 pm
Did these ever run at Sebring?
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 05, 2006, 09:24:50 pm
Yeesh! Things getting all blurred together after all these years, the Audi 90 GTO cars raced in 1989, the F40 in '90
The Ferrari lost to the Millen Nissan, not the wacky Bavarian....Have another beer Fax!
The Ferrari lost to the Millen Nissan, not the wacky Bavarian....Have another beer Fax!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 05, 2006, 09:28:12 pm
Nope Lorry,
I think the Lancia's only contested the World Championship Group C rounds and Sebring was a IMSA sanctioned event. I don't think the Lancia's were even eligible under IMSA regs. Would have been nice though.
Fax
I think the Lancia's only contested the World Championship Group C rounds and Sebring was a IMSA sanctioned event. I don't think the Lancia's were even eligible under IMSA regs. Would have been nice though.
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Chris24 on March 05, 2006, 09:30:19 pm
Lee have you any of the Roush Mustang that robby Gordon drove to class honours at the Rolex 24. Not sure what year it was but it was Err, this one. Daytona 1993. I need some pictures for reference as i have the model to build
Chris -- I'll track down some picss for you after Sebring (unless you're working on it now)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 06, 2006, 02:25:37 am
Lee,
Haven't consulted the books or the web today but refresh my memory, did the GTO Audi's race at Sebring or just the sprint events? Saw Hurley & Stuckie have a hell of a battle at Mid-Ohio in 1990 with the Jean Sage entered JP Jabouille-Olivier Grouillard driven Ferrari F40.
I know the Ferrari never made a Sebring appearance (or did it?) but the Audi's not sure about.
Fax
Haven't consulted the books or the web today but refresh my memory, did the GTO Audi's race at Sebring or just the sprint events? Saw Hurley & Stuckie have a hell of a battle at Mid-Ohio in 1990 with the Jean Sage entered JP Jabouille-Olivier Grouillard driven Ferrari F40.
I know the Ferrari never made a Sebring appearance (or did it?) but the Audi's not sure about.
Fax
AUDI GTO's and Ferreri F-40 never ran at Daytona or Sebring. just later season sprints. I say the F-40 go at it with the 300-ZX at Mid-Ohio. Only time I ever saw the ferrari run. I saw the Audi GTO at Road America.
-Lee, on-site historian
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 06, 2006, 02:35:52 am
Did these ever run at Sebring?
The Lancia's never did Sebring, but they did run in the 24 Hrs of Daytona Twice.
I don't think it was that model, I think the Beta was more squared off...
1980: Finished 10th overall, 597 laps - Lancia Beta Montecarlo Turb Jolly Club
Carlo Facetti / Martino Finotto / Gianfranco Ricci
1981 Finished 18th Overall, 545 laps - Lancia Beta Montecarlo Turb Martini Racing
Riccardo Patrese / Hans Heyer / Henri Pescarolo
results from here:
http://www.classicscars.com/wspr/results/imsa/nf_imsa_home.html (http://www.classicscars.com/wspr/results/imsa/nf_imsa_home.html)
-Lee
small google search later:
(http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1980/Daytona-1980-02-03-004.jpg)
Above: 1980 Below: 1981
(http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1981/Daytona-1981-02-01-003.jpg)
image from here:
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Daytona-1980-02-03-photo.html
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/Daytona-1981-02-01-photo.html
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on March 06, 2006, 03:52:33 am
I know the Martini & Rossi livery is popular with most race fans.How about different cars over the years that have carried these colors?
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Paddy_NL on March 06, 2006, 10:23:46 am
(http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1981/Daytona-1981-02-01-003.jpg)
Isn't an open window very uneffective as for aerodynamics in a racing car? ::) ???
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on March 06, 2006, 12:57:10 pm
Isn't an open window very uneffective as for aerodynamics in a racing car? ::) ???
Basically yes. It must knock a fair chunk off the top speed. I've never understood why Nascar cars just have the net. OK front engined (or radiatored) cars will get very hot, but there must be a more aerodynamic way of doing it.From legend, when the D type Jaguars had the perspex wrap around windscreens, some of the drivers didn't like looking through the perspex, so on one car they cut off the top two inches, so they could see over it. The aerodynamicist complained that it would take two and a half mph off the top speed. It was nearer three.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 06, 2006, 01:59:42 pm
Randy,
Off the top of my head, the Martini colors have been carried on World Championship for Makes 917's & 908's in the early seventies by what was originally known as Salzburg Racing, later on the factory Porsche 911, 935 & 936 Group 5 & 6 cars of the mid-late seventies. Team Lotus carried the Martini stripes for one season in F1 in 1979. And the brief Techno F1 program carried it in 1972 & '73. Lancia's Group 5,6,C and WRC cars all carried Martini sponsorship through the eighties.
Fax
Off the top of my head, the Martini colors have been carried on World Championship for Makes 917's & 908's in the early seventies by what was originally known as Salzburg Racing, later on the factory Porsche 911, 935 & 936 Group 5 & 6 cars of the mid-late seventies. Team Lotus carried the Martini stripes for one season in F1 in 1979. And the brief Techno F1 program carried it in 1972 & '73. Lancia's Group 5,6,C and WRC cars all carried Martini sponsorship through the eighties.
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 06, 2006, 02:18:51 pm
Almost forgot the Brabham-Alfa F1 cars of 1976-77.
Fax
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Andy Zarse on March 06, 2006, 02:20:59 pm
And from a different branch of the family tree...
(http://www.lanciamontecarlo.net/images/main037-logo.jpg)
(http://www.lanciamontecarlo.net/images/main037-logo.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 06, 2006, 02:30:51 pm
And from a different branch of the family tree...
SWEEETTTT 8)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 06, 2006, 03:10:18 pm
Whenever I think of Group B, I think of Markku Alen in the 037 on the 1000 Lakes...Whaaaa!
Fax
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Andy Zarse on March 06, 2006, 06:08:10 pm
This was one of my favourites of the day. I followed the whole four/five days of the RAC rally when this made it's debut. It being our home event, really I was rooting for the Pond/Authur Metro 6R4 and that of a certain M Wilson, but was mightily impressed by the new Lancia.
(http://homepage.virgin.net/shalco.com/images/lancia_delta_s4_rac.jpg)
With a few pals, I was a regular sector marshall during the eighties on some of the top Rallies (AudiSport, RAC etc) and a few of the drivers of the day got to vaguely recognise us. Another time I'll tell you all what Stig B said to us after we had picked ourselves out of a muddy Welsh ditch...
(http://homepage.virgin.net/shalco.com/images/lancia_delta_s4_rac.jpg)
With a few pals, I was a regular sector marshall during the eighties on some of the top Rallies (AudiSport, RAC etc) and a few of the drivers of the day got to vaguely recognise us. Another time I'll tell you all what Stig B said to us after we had picked ourselves out of a muddy Welsh ditch...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 07, 2006, 01:27:14 pm
...and back on topic.... sheesh what a rabble ;D
driver shots maybe?
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/johnny.jpg)
driver shots maybe?
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/johnny.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 07, 2006, 01:28:19 pm
8 days to go... ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on March 07, 2006, 03:32:03 pm
How about some chick shots instead? ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: johnevans3 on March 07, 2006, 09:24:12 pm
Go to the Girls, Girls, Girls thread which had some very nice shots until Smokie edited them....
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 07, 2006, 09:53:58 pm
Lets see how long these last. Mid-Ohio Superbike weekend this year.
Fax
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 08, 2006, 01:12:32 am
Here's a PG-13 version
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR03_babe.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR03_babe.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 08, 2006, 01:17:10 am
An early attempt at the Cadillac prototype:
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR95_Caddy.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR95_Caddy.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 08, 2006, 01:20:30 am
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR95_momo.jpg)
Sebring '95 :: MOMO Ferrari (above) and Kremer Spyder (below) fresh of its Daytona 24 Hr win!
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR95_Spyder.jpg)
Sebring '95 :: MOMO Ferrari (above) and Kremer Spyder (below) fresh of its Daytona 24 Hr win!
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR95_Spyder.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 08, 2006, 01:25:19 am
SMACK!
Sebring '96. Southerland hit the concrete base at the walkover bridge heading
down into the hairpin, snapped the Gearbox and rear suspension right off the Courage.
The driver stood up, walked over to the Aarmco, climbed over, looked back at the car
and dropped like a sack of potatoes.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR96_Courage.jpg)
:'(
Sebring '96. Southerland hit the concrete base at the walkover bridge heading
down into the hairpin, snapped the Gearbox and rear suspension right off the Courage.
The driver stood up, walked over to the Aarmco, climbed over, looked back at the car
and dropped like a sack of potatoes.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR96_Courage.jpg)
:'(
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 08, 2006, 01:28:55 am
One more (for now)
Everybodys favorite Driver / Race Promoter / Sanctioning Body Owner / Team Owner
and manipulator of the pace car from inside his car during yellow flag periods...
and oh yeah, 1996 Race winner
Lady's and Gentlemen I give you ANDY EVANS! yeah :o
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR96_Evans.jpg)
-Lee, 9 pages!
Everybodys favorite Driver / Race Promoter / Sanctioning Body Owner / Team Owner
and manipulator of the pace car from inside his car during yellow flag periods...
and oh yeah, 1996 Race winner
Lady's and Gentlemen I give you ANDY EVANS! yeah :o
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR96_Evans.jpg)
-Lee, 9 pages!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on March 08, 2006, 02:53:58 am
F&%$ing $10.00 cooler fee.If I ever meet that arsehole Iwill demand my $10.00 back.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 08, 2006, 04:16:41 am
The Tony George of sportscar racing...Nuff said!
Fax
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Papa Lazarou on March 08, 2006, 10:19:26 am
SMACK!
Sebring '96. Southerland hit the concrete base at the walkover bridge heading
down into the hairpin, snapped the Gearbox and rear suspension right off the Courage.
The driver stood up, walked over to the Aarmco, climbed over, looked back at the car
and dropped like a sack of potatoes.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR96_Courage.jpg)
:'(
Sebring '96. Southerland hit the concrete base at the walkover bridge heading
down into the hairpin, snapped the Gearbox and rear suspension right off the Courage.
The driver stood up, walked over to the Aarmco, climbed over, looked back at the car
and dropped like a sack of potatoes.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR96_Courage.jpg)
:'(
No wonder - look at the state of that tyre - no tread at all. Should have gone to kwik-fit...
;)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Fax on March 09, 2006, 07:56:20 pm
Found this on the RSC website. This was a very unhappy end to Peter Gregg's 1978 Sbring 12 Hours...Ouch!
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1978/Sebring-1978-03-18-059.jpg
Fax
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1978/Sebring-1978-03-18-059.jpg
Fax
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: BigH on March 09, 2006, 08:17:13 pm
It's not "Sebring" I know, but that photo of yours fax reminds of a couple of Porsches I've found up trees at LM. One would have been around 7 years or so ago when I dropped in at Mulsanne corner for a spot of nightime spectating and found a 911 up a tree behind the catch fencing. I don't know how he got there, and the marshalls were scratching their heads as how to get him down. I assume he was ok, but never did find out.
The second time I found a porsche up a tree was again in the middle of the night, this time on one of the little country lanes that get close to the Mulsanne kink. It was pre chicane days, and a few people usually tried to park nearby and walk through the woods to the armco (I think there's a hotel there now). This time it was a little more grisly, - some fool in a black 911 had been playing chicken with another Porsche on the narrow lane, the black one took a glancing blow and got airborne before it landed in the crows nest. There wasn't a lot that could be done for him...
H
The second time I found a porsche up a tree was again in the middle of the night, this time on one of the little country lanes that get close to the Mulsanne kink. It was pre chicane days, and a few people usually tried to park nearby and walk through the woods to the armco (I think there's a hotel there now). This time it was a little more grisly, - some fool in a black 911 had been playing chicken with another Porsche on the narrow lane, the black one took a glancing blow and got airborne before it landed in the crows nest. There wasn't a lot that could be done for him...
H
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 10, 2006, 02:29:16 am
Which brings us to Sebring '98...
these two shots are from the fall race that year, it's only happened twice that I can remember.
This race was the Panoz's only overall win with the coupe!
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR98_Dyson.jpg)
Weaver in the Dyson Riley & Scott MkIII above and The Panoz below.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR98_Panoz.jpg)
these two shots are from the fall race that year, it's only happened twice that I can remember.
This race was the Panoz's only overall win with the coupe!
-Lee
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR98_Dyson.jpg)
Weaver in the Dyson Riley & Scott MkIII above and The Panoz below.
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR98_Panoz.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 10, 2006, 02:31:53 am
...and what was the first race of our current era,
1999 and the birth of the ALMS
loved this car!
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR99_BMW.jpg)
1999 and the birth of the ALMS
loved this car!
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR99_BMW.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 10, 2006, 02:33:20 am
Vette's weren't always Yellow (and they didn't used to win either)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR99_Vette.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR99_Vette.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 10, 2006, 02:36:47 am
Audi, first go round...
-Lee :)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR99_Audi.jpg)
5 more days...
-Lee :)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/SBR99_Audi.jpg)
5 more days...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: gab on March 10, 2006, 09:26:30 am
loved this car!
...that BMW 12 cylinder had a great sound also, got a recording of it accellerating out of Tet Rouge, priceless.
Quote
...that BMW 12 cylinder had a great sound also, got a recording of it accellerating out of Tet Rouge, priceless.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: rcutler on March 10, 2006, 01:07:30 pm
I loved that Panoz with the get ready to Rumble statement!!!
Whooo 1000 Posts!!!!!!
Whooo 1000 Posts!!!!!!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 10, 2006, 01:14:41 pm
get ready to Rumble
"Let's Get Ready To Rumble" .wav
http://www.planetfortress.com/anticheat/cool/Sounds/Download/misc/startup.wav
-Lee, I am sooooooooo ready....
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on March 10, 2006, 01:18:11 pm
After the win that year JJ stopped the BMW right in front of our camp.Revved that V12 up to the rev limiter and then did HUGE burnout for us.It was glorious. 8) 8) 8) How coooollll is that ?
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: jpchenet on March 10, 2006, 01:50:49 pm
Everybody loves Turn 10 Randy!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: amazing 1 on March 10, 2006, 03:37:10 pm
Everybody loves Turn 10 Randy!!!!!!!!
And it makes me ssooo hap hap haaapppyyyyy !!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lorry on March 11, 2006, 01:15:34 am
Keep 'em coming Lee.
Good to see a picture of a Panoz coupe. My claim to fame is that I jump started one of them. Did anyone have a camera, did they have any stickers/spare body parts.
Good to see a picture of a Panoz coupe. My claim to fame is that I jump started one of them. Did anyone have a camera, did they have any stickers/spare body parts.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: garyfrogeye on March 11, 2006, 01:30:05 am
(http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1959/Sebring-1959-03-21-055.jpg)
Driven by: Fred Hayes (CDN)/John Christy (USA)/John Colgate (USA)
Result: 38th (47 laps behind the winner)
Because I'm biased
Driven by: Fred Hayes (CDN)/John Christy (USA)/John Colgate (USA)
Result: 38th (47 laps behind the winner)
Because I'm biased
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Steve Pyro on March 11, 2006, 10:35:03 am
I know what you mean Gary.
(http://www.dfphotoservices.com/galleries/color/color1.jpg)
(http://www.dfphotoservices.com/galleries/color/color1.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 11, 2006, 03:47:48 pm
Photos posted for Randy. Take it away Randy...
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/Randy/SBR_Fire.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/Randy/SBR_Fire.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 11, 2006, 03:48:50 pm
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/CA/CA_fullmember.gif)
POST 100! a proud moment. :)
I'm a full member now.
-Lee
POST 100! a proud moment. :)
I'm a full member now.
-Lee
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 11, 2006, 03:53:20 pm
Cool Bus
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/Randy/Cool_Bus.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/Randy/Cool_Bus.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 11, 2006, 03:54:14 pm
Labamba 1
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/Randy/Labamba1.jpg)
(http://www.selfstudio.com/images/sebring/Randy/Labamba1.jpg)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: smokie on March 11, 2006, 03:59:37 pm
From 2004...problem was, not enough electrical power...
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Canada Phil on March 11, 2006, 05:33:33 pm
From 2004...problem was, not enough electrical power...
I remember that very fondly. Especially the part where the attractive girl innocently asks: Do you need a jump ::)took her about 2 seconds to realize what she had said :o
Canada Phil
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: smokie on March 11, 2006, 07:32:36 pm
And now...
Where not to park during a race....(from 2005)
Where not to park during a race....(from 2005)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: rcutler on March 11, 2006, 08:38:46 pm
Are you getting in the mood then Smokie?? Problem for me is I AM GETTING IN THE MOOD BUT THEN I AM NOT GOING!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Lee Self on March 11, 2006, 11:10:09 pm
Watch it on Motors TV or whatever channel will carry the race for you.
Listen online with Hindy and Radio Web, you couldn't do any better.
You'll be with us in spirit all week.!
-Lee
Beers will be quaffed in your honor.
did you see that I'm a full member know. :)
Listen online with Hindy and Radio Web, you couldn't do any better.
You'll be with us in spirit all week.!
-Lee
Beers will be quaffed in your honor.
did you see that I'm a full member know. :)
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Piglet on March 11, 2006, 11:19:04 pm
Is it on Motors? Ahh no I'll be at Brands so I can't even watch it. Will have to attempt to DVD it if it's on.
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Steve Pyro on March 11, 2006, 11:48:17 pm
It's on Motors TV
Live
Saturday 18th - 18:30 to 23:30
Sunday 19th - 00:30 to 04:00
Highlights
Monday 20th - 20:00 to 23:00
Live
Saturday 18th - 18:30 to 23:30
Sunday 19th - 00:30 to 04:00
Highlights
Monday 20th - 20:00 to 23:00
Title: Re: The "You can never put too many Sebring photos on the CA forum" Thread
Post by: Canada Phil on March 12, 2006, 07:44:06 pm
(http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1959/Sebring-1959-03-21-055.jpg)
Driven by: Fred Hayes (CDN)/John Christy (USA)/John Colgate (USA)
Result: 38th (47 laps behind the winner)
Because I'm biased
Hi Gary,Driven by: Fred Hayes (CDN)/John Christy (USA)/John Colgate (USA)
Result: 38th (47 laps behind the winner)
Because I'm biased
To you: just a driver of a Sprite, to others just a name on an entry list. A founding fatjer of Mosport one of the greta tracks of the world.
As early as 1958 the British Empire Motor Club (BEMC) formed a development committee to investigate the possibility of selecting and buying a piece of property for a road racing course. By mid summer of that year the founding committee, whose members consisted of Dick Byatt, George Hill, Chuck Stockey, Fred Hayes and Ray Liddle, had found a 450-acre tract north of Bowmanville. Recognizing the enormity of the project, the committee members realized that one club (BEMC) could not undertake the entire task and so a separate entity, called "Mosport Limited" was born in the fall of 1958. The name Mosport (a contraction of Motor Sport) was coined and applied to the new business enterprise.
Canada Phil
