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Title: Live 8
Post by: Lancs Se7en on July 03, 2005, 01:09:10 am
Brilliant and thanks for a great nights entertainment ;D Even the old rockers managed a thing or two. :P


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Chrisgr31 on July 03, 2005, 01:13:25 am
Brilliant and thanks for a great nights entertainment ;D Even the old rockers managed a thing or two. :P

Big bill for someone though.  Apparently if they overran Westminster Council were going to charge them £350,000 per hour!  So thats a £7000,000 bill for someone!


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Mr. Invincible Mou on July 03, 2005, 01:34:12 am
Better it goes into Westminster's coffers than Mugabe's pockets  :o


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: RichUK on July 03, 2005, 02:48:36 am
I thought Pink Floyd were awesome.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Barry on July 03, 2005, 02:57:16 am
Great entertainment, cursing that I didn't go , but gave my ticket to my son as it was his twelfth birthday on Saturday, not bad for his first gig :) :).

Highlights for me were mostly the old rockers, Elton John , the Who, U2, but with special mentions to Madonna, Snoop Dog, Velvet Revolver and the Stereophonics, but the IMHO the stars of the night were Razorlight now thats what I call rock 'n' roll. 8) 8) 8)

Can you watch the Micheal Buerk video with the Cars soundtrack without a tear in your eye? Can you believe that twenty years after you first saw it the situation in Africa is worse than it was then?

Forget the cynical comments,go to www.live8live.com, sign up for the petition to end poverty, 25 million people did today, be the 25 million and first, and email T Blair , the links there, let him have one hell of a mail box tomorrow.

I for one don't want to have to watch that video in another 20 years time, and think that that nothing has changed, I challenge you, forget the cynicism it won't cost you anything but 5 minutes of you time, you never know it might get the men in grey suits to listen for once, especially if they think that there is a sea change in public opionion and their jobs might be in danger.

Click, 3 seconds, click, 3 seconds, click, 3 seconds, in Africa that could be my entire family dead.

I'll put the soap box and the brandy bottle away now :)


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Lawnmower Man on July 03, 2005, 03:16:30 am
Big bill for someone though.  Apparently if they overran Westminster Council were going to charge them £350,000 per hour!  So thats a £7000,000 bill for someone!

Yes. I can belive that.  IMHO It time they got a life.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Stu on July 03, 2005, 10:10:15 am
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Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: smokie on July 03, 2005, 12:52:30 pm
It's all very well to get the rich countries to help with financial aid but until the corrupt dictators and their families are removed from power this aid will only provide a fraction of the benefit to those who really do need it.

Also exploitation of the people and natural resource in those countries by the large multi-nationals should be stopped.

Having said that, anything we can do to help should be done.



I didn't watch a lot of the concert but weren't the Who awesome???


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Lawnmower Man on July 03, 2005, 02:08:39 pm
It's all very well to get the rich countries to help with financial aid but until the corrupt dictators and their families are removed from power this aid will only provide a fraction of the benefit to those who really do need it.
I gave my contribution to Africa in Durban at knife point.
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Having said that, anything we can do to help should be done.
Well I've done my bit.
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I didn't watch a lot of the concert but weren't the Who awesome???
Very much so.   In fact I thought all of the acts I saw were brilliant.
Real people making real music.   Not this computer generated techno junk.

t.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Ron Jeremy on July 03, 2005, 05:58:42 pm
i keep being asked to hold on to several billion us dollars in return for a small fee - so someones got the cash

tackling corruption first might go along way to assisting rather then being told what to buy, eat and drink by plastic band wearing wealthy pop stars >:(


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: redstu on July 03, 2005, 11:59:51 pm
Anyone else think that the camera direction during the Who set was abysmal - particularly so during "don't get fooled again" - either it was at the end of a very long day (it was) or the director didn't appreciate that a band that actually plays instruments requires a different approach visually.

Still having said that most enjoyable.


With regard to aid

Once I get my cut of the $120 million that I'll soon be looking after for a not unreasonable handling fee of £35K  I'll be making a considerable donation.

However I'm not sure when that will be as my e mails to Dr Ostentatius Gotusucaa have gone unanswered for the past 3 weeks!



Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Bob U on July 04, 2005, 10:06:05 am




I didn't watch a lot of the concert but weren't the Who awesome???
Yeh, agree, they were great but with Moony dead and now Entwistle how can they stil be called The Who? I remember when Keith Moon died Daltry said "that is the end, we will never perform as The Who again" Obviesly trout farming is not as finacially rewarding as being a rock star. I know it was all in a good cause but they were still not The Who.

Whilst on the subject, how can those pricks Brian May and Roger Taylor tour as Queen when the greatest band frontman the world has ever seen is dead, f**k*ng idiots.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Simes on July 04, 2005, 11:51:40 am
I thought Pink Floyd were awesome.


Agreed.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Bob U on July 04, 2005, 01:23:33 pm
I thought Pink Floyd were awesome.
Never thought I'd ever see Roger Waters back in the group.
I particulally liked the banner in the crowd----

Pink Floyd reunion? Pigs have flown over London.

Would have been nice if it was over Battersey Power Station again. The cameraman did manage to get a shot of it in during PF's performance which I thought was a nice touch.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Doris on July 04, 2005, 01:49:29 pm
Anyone else heard about Posh Spice having a bit too much champagne in the hospitality tent and calling Snoop Dogg 'Mr Snoopy'?


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: pretzel on July 04, 2005, 02:32:16 pm
Like others I thopught The Who (with or without the late Mr Moon) showed most of the newer bands how it should be done. Pete Townsend being particularly energetic.

My personal favourite moment though was Pete Doherty's rendition of T. Rex's Childern of the Revolution. Not a good advert for recreational drugs.......


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Lawnmower Man on July 04, 2005, 02:55:48 pm

Yeh, agree, they were great but with Moony dead and now Entwistle how can they stil be called The Who? I remember when Keith Moon died Daltry said "that is the end, we will never perform as The Who again" Obviesly trout farming is not as finacially rewarding as being a rock star. I know it was all in a good cause but they were still not The Who.

Whilst on the subject, how can those pricks Brian May and Roger Taylor tour as Queen when the greatest band frontman the world has ever seen is dead, f**cking idiots.

Yes it does make these statment seem a bit hollow.

IMHO,  It would be totaly wrong for "The Who" that played at Live 8 to release a new Record/Album as 'The Who'. However, I also think it would have been equaly wrong not to have had the act.  

It was real people playing real music.

t.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Bobblehat on July 04, 2005, 03:29:26 pm
Daltry sounded fantastic but Pete was looking old, did think at one point that  his Strat was too heavy for him ;) I wounder if he now regrets writing "I hope I die before I get old......"

The Floyd sounded great, and I caught the shot of Batersea Power station, though my beer googles.

But dont you think that it sums the UK music that the closing acts were "The Who" (half of them) Pink Floyd and Sir Paul Macca the combined age must run in to the thousands!!!!!!!!

And am I the only one that thinks the Live 8 logo looked like a scalectric track???


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Bob U on July 04, 2005, 03:33:59 pm
Yeh no doubt they were right to be there and I suppose to younger people who had never seen them, or possibilly never even heard of them they were the real Who. They were to me a very important part of my teenage years. I well remember doing my paper round with my tranny turn up high, listening to Radio London playing stuff like "I'm a boy" and "Happy Jack", f**k*ng brilliant. Even at 25yrs I was close to tears when Moony died, and to me The Who died with him.Neverthe less it was still great to see Daltry swinging the mike and Townsend "windmilling his arms, It certainly brought back a few memories. It will interesting to see if the likes of Travis and Coldplay are still around in 40 years time, matter of fact it will be interesting If I still am.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Andy Zarse on July 04, 2005, 04:18:35 pm
The voice of dissent (again).

Yes I saw quite a bit of it and enjoyed much of the music on offer, simply for what it was. The Who were the Who, but then again I was never into them until after Moon had died and Kenny Jones had taken over on the drums. And yes, The Floyd were tight as a torniquet.

But at the end of the day, Live 8 fed nothing more than a handful of has-been pop stars' egos. Sad but true, and I'm no expert, but it seems to me only a change of attitude, politics and regime will ever release the huge latent energies now straining for expression in sub-Saharan Africa. All that is happening at the moment is the poor of rich countries are being taxed to further line the pockets of the rich people from poor countries. As that old, up-tight, reactionary Tory sour puss Simon Heffer wrote yesterday (and much as I hate to agree with him): Live 8 was nothing more than a "massive exercise in well-meaning, albeit ultimately mindless, sentimentality." And I do not need to take condescending lectures on poverty from hair-brained, muddle headed, multi-millionaires with their conspicuous consumption, extravegant lifestyles and who fly around the world in private jets.

Far more appropriate for me would have been to have a concert of contemporary African music, along with some Afro-inspired drum & bass, rather than the whiteman inspired has-beenism of the Live 8 acts.

That's what I reckon anyhow.

PS did anyone else think poor old Macca looks like he's being driven into an early grave by his domineering one-legged wife?


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Robbo SPS on July 04, 2005, 04:22:02 pm
I missed the entire concert. i heard one bloke run into a pub shouting Paul Mccartneys on. Thats the sum of my involvment.

Hopefully they will do a highlights DVD, then i'll be able to watch it !!

Since LM i've had 1 day off. Just going to scotland now for G8 and a week of work. 16 hour days !!!!!



Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: pretzel on July 04, 2005, 05:35:47 pm
Just going to scotland now for G8 and a week of work. 16 hour days !!!!!

Just think of the overtime  ;)


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: jpchenet on July 04, 2005, 06:33:31 pm

Just going to scotland now for G8 and a week of work. 16 hour days !!!!!



That should be great!!!  As Ricky Gervais said on TV on Saturday, I thought they were great and really should have won X Factor instead of that Steve Brookstein chap  ;D


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Steve Pyro on July 04, 2005, 06:55:35 pm
I spent Saturday evening at my wife's employers summer party (BIG bash).
Appearing on stage in the big tent were Madness (the actual, original line-up, Suggs et al) and Basement Jaxx.

I reckon I had the better night out.  Rather than staring at the TV for hours on end, I was getting down to the Nutty Sound and shaking my booty - all fueled by copious complementary booze  ;D


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Kate Shaw on July 04, 2005, 07:00:47 pm
Our "Live 8" concert was held in Barrie, a cottage country town north of here (although from what I hear, the people on TV continually referred to it either as "Toronto" or "Ontario", which hacked the locals off considerably.)

I didn't listen to any of it because I was busy, and besides looking at elderly rock stars makes me queasy (not being that young myself).  However, many of us were astonished that the Barrie charitable organizations were denied permission to do voluntary donation boxes for local charities during this "Live 8" concert in which Geldof was demanding that Canadian tax money be sent to Africa rather than being used to help Canadians.

When I was a little girl, 100 years ago, I was admonished to eat my beets because "children in Africa are starving."  Well now I am 10 lb. overweight and children in Africa are still starving.  What exactly has been accomplished by eating all those beets?


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Steve Pyro on July 04, 2005, 07:25:57 pm
...... What exactly has been accomplished by eating all those beets?

Embarrassing flatulence?   :o



Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Matt Harper on July 05, 2005, 04:13:44 am
Only got to see MTV highlights. Made me smile to see Roger Waters playing with the rest of the band.
I agree with everything Andy Z stated (there's a first). well said, that man. Nice sentiment - but pointless and the sanctimonious lecture from that f**k*ng bog-trotter in the daft sunglasses, I can well do without.
f**k off Bono.    


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Black Granny on July 05, 2005, 10:54:32 am
Missed it on TV as I was out working. Managed to listen to some of it on the radio. Over in Toronto they had a real "Old School" Rock band on Deep Puple. Would have gone down well with the other oldtimers at Hyde Park.
I'll try and get some info on the cost of the overrun as one of the Tarquins works for Westminster Council.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: smokie on July 05, 2005, 02:11:01 pm

I'll try and get some info on the cost of the overrun as one of the Tarquins works for Westminster Council.

20,000 people stranded in London cos the trains shut down on time apparently. Maybe someone forgot to tell them that it was on... Amazing how they can shut down on time but can't run a service on time innit?



Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Barry on July 05, 2005, 02:22:52 pm

My personal favourite moment though was Pete Doherty's rendition of T. Rex's Childern of the Revolution. Not a good
advert for recreational drugs.......


I think Mr Doherty regards it as professional career, rather that recreational use. :o


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: monkey on July 05, 2005, 02:43:14 pm
I have a little digital box thing, and spent most of my time watching the show at the Eden project. Such a pity that the organisers didn't have the imagination to get these guys to play between the Hyde Park acts. The musicianship and energy were outstanding. Frankly the London show left me flat, although the Who moved me, and seeing Floyd was great (I saw them doing money last in 1973!!) And if this has been mentioned then I apologies but what in gods name was that VIP area all about. The real audience looked like it was in Shepherds Bush, while a bunch of c list celebs, politicians and chums of St Bob swaggered around in the front of the stage providing less atmosphere than I would expect to find on the moon. A bloody disgrace, the real supporters of the event, the sentiment, and the music were treated like third class citizens...........a four king disgrace in my humble (sorry)


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Fax on July 05, 2005, 06:34:47 pm
Was only able to catch the highlights on VH1 & MTV but the highlight for me was easy...Seeing Roger and David togther onstage again (and not wanting to kill each other)  Roger looked genuinely moved to be playing with his old bandmates again.  Here's hoping they had a few cold ones backstage and realized they're getting too old to be bickering like little kids.  The wall was released my senior year in high school and that WAS the soundtrack for our final year.
Fax


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: tink on July 06, 2005, 04:09:39 pm
whilst the hyde park event has been criticised for not really having any african acts on the line up the point of the concert was to raise awareness of the issues. there is no way that a concert featuring unknown, traditional african artists would have recieved as much press coverage. im not saying that its right, but having bands like coldplay, madonna, u2 and the like will attract more media attention and therefore the issues will more likely be dragged into the limelight.

i dont see anyone discussing the concert at the eden project...

raising the issues was the important thing here and i dont think it really matters how they were raised


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: monkey on July 06, 2005, 04:59:48 pm
I mentioned the Eden project above, and will repeat, it would have been good if they had slotted the African bands between the 'bums on seats' acts that you name. You are right, they would not have drawn the audiences required, but I am sure, having watched several hours from Eden, they would have lifted the audience................  just a thought.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Andy Zarse on July 06, 2005, 07:04:58 pm
I mentioned the Eden project above, and will repeat, it would have been good if they had slotted the African bands between the 'bums on seats' acts that you name. You are right, they would not have drawn the audiences required, but I am sure, having watched several hours from Eden, they would have lifted the audience................  just a thought.

Absolutely agree Monkey, they could have at least given a platform to some of the great African acts; who knows, hearing it on the big stage could just have popularised it a bit more. Then the message about good things coming out of Africa would be in the main arena more than just for one day. Exiling it to the depths of Cornwall to be marginalised was precisely not what was needed, and to my mind, was a scandal. And all just so Macca and his other pals sporting melted crisp packet face-lifts could fan the flames of their vanity.

And where was the call for free and fair trade? This should be being stuffed down Chirac and Bush's throats by the demonstrators in Scotland. However, the protagonists all seem too busy shouting out to end poverty and smashing up quiet villages, to apply a bit of brain power to work out exactly how to do it. Let's hope the politicians manage to do something constructive. Ending the wretched distorting CAP and opening our markets to more African goods would be a good start.


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Black Granny on July 06, 2005, 09:29:59 pm
Missed it on TV as I was out working. Managed to listen to some of it on the radio. Over in Toronto they had a real "Old School" Rock band on Deep Puple. Would have gone down well with the other oldtimers at Hyde Park.
I'll try and get some info on the cost of the overrun as one of the Tarquins works for Westminster Council.


Spoke to Westminster tarquin today. The organisers will probably be let off any fine as it was seen as instumental in London getting the Olympics.
also I suspect that several councillors whose seats will be up for grabs at the next election will not want to be seen to be "Heavy Handed"

Cynical-Moi?


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: tink on July 07, 2005, 12:56:06 am
monkey, i did see your earlier post re: the eden project. and i completely agree with you, slotting some of the african acts in between the 'popular' acts would not have been such a bad thing. the whole event was let down by the fact that it focused merely on the fact that africa is supposedly a poor continent that cannoot help itself. there are a lot of positives that could have been presented but the whole event seemed to concentrate on the negatives which was a shame.

and yes, andy, the focus on poverty was also disappointing. promoting fair trade should definitely be a priority as this is something which would actually go a long way towards helping african nations, rather than simply giving them pity


Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: monkey on July 07, 2005, 10:13:15 am
I agree with you tink.



Title: Re:Live 8
Post by: Andy Zarse on July 07, 2005, 11:44:48 am
I agree with you tink.



Well said Tink.