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Title: Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: redstu on May 16, 2005, 01:27:05 pm

This year as I've done for the past 4 years I'll be flying to Paris as the first leg of the Journey (This time via Belfast!).

Last year BA managed to lose my luggage (despite the plane being delayed and having about a 3 hour connection!)

So as that was my tent and clothes I had to sleep in the car for the first night and wait until my bag turned up which was only at 10pm the following day.

The delivery man couldn't find Le mans then had a bit of trouble locating the camp site.

So this year I'll be carrying some gear as Hand luggage and sticking a map with directions and my phone number on the outside of the bag.  Of course I was hansomely compensated for this inconvenience (a £100 BA voucher!).

Oh and watch out for Pikies with knock out gas, I heard of this being used on BSJ last year and people had passports and other valuables nicked from their tents whilst the slept soundly!

 


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: Andy Zarse on May 16, 2005, 01:47:58 pm
Oh and watch out for Pikies with knock out gas, I heard of this being used on BSJ last year and people had passports and other valuables nicked from their tents whilst the slept soundly!

Did this actually happen or is it urban myth? I mean, how do you know you have been knocked out by "sleeping gas", having just consumed twenty pints of 1664? Maybe it's the same as the mythical solitary "bad pint" I always seem to inbibe within the twenty consumed and which results in bad head and guts the next day?

Anyway if it is true and I catch the mysterious pikey with his gas cannister,he will truely regret it. A 4ft long mild steel Commer starting handle whcked around the lugholes will render a similar effect to said gas.  :P


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: jpchenet on May 16, 2005, 01:58:06 pm
I think camping in numbers, as we will be, should be a big enough defence!

After all, the last of our crowd won't finish watching the porn until about 6am, and by that stage some of them are waking up again!


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: Lorry on May 16, 2005, 02:02:47 pm
Interesting.  this proves you can fly in.  I think I saw a flight to Le Mans itself, but very expensive, as one of our team would like to fly in just for the weekend.  With the baggage allowance, you can't carry much of a tent.  Presumably you hire a car and stop off at Carrefour.

Would Eurostar be quicker and/or cheaper

I'm getting concerned about the Pikies.  Ok Pikiefest started on Monday, but anything before that is bad news.  One team adopted a "scorched earth" policy, and jumped on the tents and furniture they left, and then set fire to it.  Leaves a mess for next year - the charcoal gets everywhere

How do you start a Commer with a bent starting handle? or do you leave it for the Pikies?


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: jpchenet on May 16, 2005, 02:15:23 pm
Not certain yet, but we may have an extra chap flying down on either Friday or Saturday morning into Le Mans airfield, leaving from White Waltham, near Maidenhead.

He'll probably be looking for a couple of extra bodies to help share the cost if your mate might be interested??


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: Kpy on May 16, 2005, 02:19:19 pm
Interesting.  this proves you can fly in.  

No, redstu flew to Paris, not LM. From there TGV is cheap and easy. Yes a stop off at Carrefour for tent etc is an ideal way of cutting down on outward luggage. A pushbike would be ideal, but how do you sell it before flying home?


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: skorpio on May 16, 2005, 02:41:54 pm
Oh and watch out for Pikies with knock out gas, I heard of this being used on BSJ last year and people had passports and other valuables nicked from their tents whilst the slept soundly!
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  We were on BSJ last year and didn't see any pikeys until the sunday afternoon/monday morning, and didn't hear about anybody being robbed in that way, not saying it didn't happen ;) but we were pretty central to the site and didn't notice any pikey activity ;) :)


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: redstu on May 16, 2005, 04:50:38 pm
As a few questions have come up I'll just add

I try to travel quite light, the single man tent weighs about 2kg and all up the rucksack is about 14kg or less.
That doesn't include cooking gear as the fuel would be difficult to get hold of without having a hire car, the last 2 years I've had a car but this year I'm back on the train, its easy to book online with sncf.com, and the tickets are delivered to the uk.

As to the Pikey sleeping gas, this was first hand from someone that it happened to last year.  Its apprently not an uncommon trick but usually happens to caravans on stopovers on the way south.



Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: Lorry on May 16, 2005, 05:38:44 pm
The Pikeys were all over BSJ the sunday before the race, but moved by monday.  There were some at the back of Parking Bleu hence "Pikeyfest"

Sleeping gas attacks on campervans (obvious sign of wealh etc) in French service areas have been mentioned in the press, but the jack winding irons are even more lethal than a Commer starting handle, but probably get less normal use.


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: skorpio on May 16, 2005, 07:27:14 pm
  It does apparantly happen quite a bit to m/homes on stopovers, [mind you a lot of those are parked up in remote aires  ::) ]  I did say that we hadn't seen or heard of anything happening, not doubting you in any way at all  :)

  I've always found proper jack handles are a very good deterrent, as are numbers,  lone people are always going to be a target, can only suggest you try and team up with a group,  not going this year  :( :( or you'd be welcome to pitch in our "enclave"  :)


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: Fran on May 16, 2005, 07:35:51 pm
Blimey - anyone going to be in Bleu Sud that i can snuggle up with?

F


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: Kpy on May 16, 2005, 07:52:03 pm
Blimey - anyone going to be in Bleu Sud that i can snuggle up with?

F

Only me. And I'm no jackhammer.


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: Piglet on May 16, 2005, 08:44:58 pm
Interesting.  this proves you can fly in.  I think I saw a flight to Le Mans itself, but very expensive, as one of our team would like to fly in just for the weekend.  With the baggage allowance, you can't carry much of a tent.  Presumably you hire a car and stop off at Carrefour.

You can fly Ryan Air to Tours.  When I looked at it a couple of weeks ago you could have flown in on the Wednesday before the Race and out on the Monday for around sixty quid.  Can't be bad!  

There is also a guy on the Le Mans forum on Pistonheads.com who's planning to fly down and back and is looking for passengers - might be worth your mate having a look.


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: johnevans3 on May 16, 2005, 09:11:41 pm
The website below speaks to similar events (untrue) happening here in the US with perfume.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/perfume.asp

As to the orignial post.  I'm flying into CDG and taking the train to Le Mans.  Then returning to CDG after the race.  I did it last year and it worked out just fine.  The issue of getting to and from the race track is a problem however.  


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: redstu on May 16, 2005, 11:31:44 pm
Regarding transport to and from the circuit, on at least two days (Wed, Thur) there are shuttles to the circuit from directly outside the railway station.
 I'm going back on Monday Morning for the 10:35 TGV so will have to get a bus at the termininus near to expo, I've been lucky enough to get a lift in previous years.
Anybody know of a website for the buses around Le mans?

Wish Easyjet flew from Newcatle to Tours as its only an hour away!


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: smokie on May 17, 2005, 01:17:01 am
Blimey - anyone going to be in Bleu Sud that i can snuggle up with?

F

Only me. And I'm no jackhammer.

Not like you to turn an offer down Terry  ;)

If you feel threatened Fran you are welcome to join us in the Golden Triangle in MB. We will make sure you don't pitch your tent below sea level...  :-\


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: BigH on May 17, 2005, 10:47:31 am
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Oh and watch out for Pikies with knock out gas, I heard of this being used on BSJ last year and people had passports and other valuables nicked from their tents whilst the slept soundly!

I'm afraid this has to be urban myth. I suspect Andy is right, and it was a case of a dodgy final Drambuie. Either that, or Stus mates are trying to cover up for a bit of regretted and embarrassing Romany Rogering under the cover of canvas and darkness.

If it takes all the expertise and technology of a modern operating theatre to keep someone safely under, then in a tent and in the hands of a pikie, the lads would either die or come round. Just look at what the Russians did to the Chechnyans in that cinema.

Doesn't the phrase 'single man tent' sound just so sad...
H


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: jpchenet on May 17, 2005, 12:17:24 pm


Doesn't the phrase 'single man tent' sound just so sad...
H

And doesn't it sound so small!!!!  A three man tent is obligatory for one person otherwise you don't even have enough room to scratch yourself in the morning!  :-\


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: redstu on May 17, 2005, 01:05:05 pm
Big H ,  your're right about "single man tent" does sound a bit pitiful,  but I hiked the length of Cumbria once with a "family" tent and it was sadder still waking up with all that space around me,must have looked like the rest of the party had buggered off!.   There's still  enough scratching space though in the "oner" as its tallish.

Only need somwhere to put it,  as I'm getting the train this year I'll be a "walk on"  I've tried Houx previously, but this year I fancy going for MB, how much space is there likely to be when I arrive at 9pm on Thursday?

About knock out gas , and over imbibing, Absinthe knock me out very sharpish, not that I'll be havibng any of that in Le Mans.


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: BigH on May 17, 2005, 01:16:15 pm
wotcher stu,
If you're in a 'Lonely Guy' situation when you arrive on MB Thursday evening, then you should be able to squeeze in somewhere. Anyone arriving with a car will struggle for a decent spot though.
Who's going to rub on the Calamine Lotion?


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: redstu on May 18, 2005, 01:30:07 pm
The young lady on my right kindly agreed last year, this year it may be one of the lucky Aston Girls!


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: redstu on May 18, 2005, 01:36:02 pm
aaagh  photo didn't attach-  I've tried again and it still won't


Title: Re:Flying to CDG and camping - helpful advice.
Post by: htbast on May 18, 2005, 03:41:04 pm
With regard to original question, I have often flown into CDG and hired a small MPV (Espace type thing). This not only gets me to the circuit, and to and from the supermarkets & outer viewing areas, but is big enough for two to sleep in the back of. Just don't make it to obvious or you will get some parking attende trying to move you on. But they have never been too persistant.

Splashing out this year with a camping pass (Blue) and hitching a ride in my brothers Voyager.