Club Arnage

Hello,

Iam looking for Karting Nord tickets for the 2005 Le Mans 24H.
hope anyone can help me the ACO seems to making ordering of campsite tickets more difficult every year.

Thanks in advance.
Jeroen Bootsman

Happy hunting,

It is a big mess, we ordered last year in june and we ended up at Beausejour this year, no confirmation of that yet either. In the mean time we managed to get tickets for maison blanche, maybe an option for you as well. We got them at justtickets.com or .uk They had a lot of cancellations for MB but not KN.

Knetter

He Knetter,

Thanks for your reply.

I had 150 tickets for Karting Nord but the ACO charged way more then face value because they wanted me to pay for the water and showers as well.
As i understood it from the ACO they are only selling the Karting Nord tickets in bundles of 4000m2 (150 tickets) but that costed me about 55,-- a piece and my plan was to wanted to sell them to real le mans racefans for face value, thats way we passed the tickets but now created a problem for myself that i haven`t got any arghhhhhh.

Think the ACO is making a mess of it this year, have lots of ACO member friends so probarbly we will get HOUX tickets and thats not bad. if one spare stays left i will send you an email.

All the best and till june!!

Greetz,
Jeroen

To be honoust, I think guys like you are the reason why the ACO makes such a mess if it. What the f*ck would you want to do with 150 tickets for Karting Nord? For the real fans? Aren't they mature enough to order their own tickets?
Yuck Fou!
So you're the f*cking reason why I had to pay GBP 226,- per camping ticket via JustTickets, even though I ordered back on the 29th of June last year and still got diverted to BSJ!

Thanks a lot A-hole!!! :mad:

Yep, but Paddy just think without this cock up you wouldn't be on Maison Blanche which is where you need to be!!!

Well Abs, we would be on the other side then, on Karting Nord, for E 45,- a ticket instead of the E120,- I've payed now.

I understand what you mean Abs, and I know Jeroen ain't personally responsible for the troubles we got from the ACO. But it's people like him who cause such trouble though!
Why on earth would somebody buy 150 camping tickets to sell them for face value? :confused:

and what's that with these smilies tonight ?  >:(

Can't see the reason for purchasing this amount unless you want to try and compete with the rip off agencies, best be is to just sort out what you or your group need and let everybody else fend for themselves...

Karting Nord appears to have been taken over with very large groups over the last few years, including groups with coaches and support trucks.
Maybe the ACO has now acknowledged this and are hence preventing the average Joe who wants 2 or 3 KN passes from camping there.
Thus your average Joe gets BSJ!  >:(

If the ACO can try to pass on the cost of showers and toilets to those with 150 passes, they'll make more money this way.

I still can't understand why someone would want to buy 150 tickets (big cost risk) and then sell them on at face.

Not entirely true. I ordered my tickets for KN on 29 June '04, and still missed out.


Sorry for the swearing btw, got a little 'overexited' :-\

Sounds like c*nt to me, as well.
H

Now, now everyone. Play nicely!

 >:(

My reply and explenation to all!!!! Before you totally get the wrong idea.

Yes we had commercial reasons for buying the tickets, last year we did the same. The ACO last year gave 50% discount if we bought 50 tickets or more so we bought 50 tickets and sold them for face value everybody happy.  Desperate people got tickets and they didn`t need to buy them for the rip-off prices ticketsagents were selling them for and we earned some cash !!

This year the idea was the same but the ACO changed the rules and charged E 61,33 a ticket, because we didn`t want to buy them for more then they were worth we refused.  

The ACO would never had sold any of you the tickets so if my plan worked you would have had the tickets and for face value!!! Offcourse we would have earned money with it but thats just fare i think we also toke the financial risc. The prove that iam right is that none of us have Karting Nord tickets or does someone have them?? Think not they were all sold to travelagents now how will make big bugs out of them.

Thanks a lot you`l for all remarks made for someone how just wanted to make some bugs (how doesn`t) and help you to abtain the tickets.

Greetz,
Jeroen

Jeroen,
I'm still not convinced me old sausage.
My beef is not so much on the profit side of things, but with the fact that you took 150 tickets out of circulation. Ok, you wanted to sell them on, but to who? - it's not as if you were going with 150 mates.
For most fans, the first port of call for tickets would be the ACO, how the hell would your average fan know that Jeroen B has 150 tickets for sale?
The ACO has got to get their act together really, they are always going to be able to sell all the camping and grandstand tickets, so why the **** should they offer 50% discounts to agency buyers?
H

H,

Your right we took 150 tickets out of circulation and with that created unwillingly troubles for other fans.
We did it to make profit and because we wanted to prevent that the tickets would be sold of for sky high prices because we all know the campsite tickets are sold out days after the race finishes.

If the tickets were mine you would had all known it because i would had advertised with them on sites like these and the many other sites available you`l know which ones iam talking about.

I made an error this year with the quantity money seems to have taken the better of me and fore that i want to appologize to all how think it`s my fault that they haven`t got tickets.
It isn`t me how changed the system of how tickets are sold, for that you need to blame the ACO how doesn`t want to sell tickets a piece anymore and prefers to sell them in large quantity`s.

I was just to one how acted on the changed system, with normal reasons not to sell them for double the money otherwise i would had bought the 150 tickets and sold them to you all !!

Hope this explains enough.

Sorry old chap but you're now contradicting yourself!!

You say you did the same thing last year! But we didn't see you selling any tickets on here, or on the two of the other main Le Mans forums I participate on.

The only of the "other sites available you`l know which ones iam talking about." I can assume you are referring to is eBay!!!!!  >:(

Either way you are still profiteering and that is banned from this forum!!!!

One thing I don't get, Jeroen>>
You keep on repeating you want to sell tickets for 'face value', and in other replies you reveal your intention was to make a profit.
So what side of you is lying? Or don't you know the meaning of the word?

Like I said before, it ain't just you who caused this. But you actually caused a contra-effect. Now no-one has cheap KN-tickets, not even you!

Karting Nord will probably be filled up with drunk Vikings who brought they're own half-a-country. Guess where our fireworks wil be pointed at (http://smile.smilies.nl/1539.gif)

The discussion in this thread aside, I am wondering if there is a possibility here for some "bulk discount" next year.

There are a fair few members on this site, who tend to have a preference for perhaps 3 sites. I have to think that if somebody got the ball rolling early enough (yes if there is enough interest I would be prepared to volunteer some time), perhaps we might have better luck booking bulk tickets for the 2006 race. Afterall, is not the purpose of a forum to bring together likeminded people for mutual gain?

Wouldn't it be nice Knowing in June that you actually were going to get what you wanted for the following year.

Just a thought.

PS Mind you, it might spoil that air of eager expectation as the postman comes in December  ;D

Mr. I,
CA via Smokie tried to make a block booking with the ACO a couple of years ago but it came to nothing.
We were placed on the waiting list for 150 MB passes.  In the meantime, everyone got hold of their own tickets and the wait list allocation ended up in BSJ eventually anyway.

Enough!!

Suffice to say that this site has a policy on profiteering on tickets (see sticky post in this forum), and maybe or maybe not Jeroen breached our guidelines.

Rather than go round in circles...this thread is locked...both sides are represented reasonably well, you can form your own opinion about the rights and wrongs.

Thank you and good night!  :)

'Locked' you say Smokie?  ::)

Bloody buttons.

It is now!!!  ;)