Title: Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Ferrari Spider on September 15, 2004, 08:06:15 pm
life in the ole boy, hope for us all!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/3657122.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/3657122.stm
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: ian murat on September 15, 2004, 08:51:03 pm
couldn't persaude dave richards to give him a drive
hobsons choice??
hobsons choice??
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Fax on September 15, 2004, 08:58:48 pm
Christ! He must be broke already.
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Ferrari Spider on September 15, 2004, 09:16:15 pm
any suggestions where Mika may end up or is it a fin red herring?
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Fax on September 15, 2004, 09:35:59 pm
If Mika has an ounce of common sense he'll stay the hell away from F1. Have you seen some of the proposed regs for next year? 2.4 liter V8's, two sets of tyres per weekend? You've got to f**k*ng kidding!
Boy these are going to be cars of the Gods. Why don't they just race lawn tractors? This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the sport?
Fax
Boy these are going to be cars of the Gods. Why don't they just race lawn tractors? This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the sport?
Fax
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Black Widow on September 15, 2004, 09:41:04 pm
If the opportunity ever arises, as he now drive for the "Ferrari B - team", will he be allowed to fight Schumacher or Barrichello for position? ::)
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Ferrari Spider on September 15, 2004, 10:19:19 pm
Fax, i'm with you, its the top of the pile, i can understand rules and regulation for safety, but when it comes to the fastest round the track, the gloves come off.
Maybe when the revenue to Bernie ceases then they may be some change. Could go on for ages, bring back some real cars with real drivers!
Talking of which, do you go to the classic?
Maybe when the revenue to Bernie ceases then they may be some change. Could go on for ages, bring back some real cars with real drivers!
Talking of which, do you go to the classic?
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Robbo SPS on September 16, 2004, 12:13:22 am
If Mika has an ounce of common sense he'll stay the hell away from F1. Have you seen some of the proposed regs for next year? 2.4 liter V8's, two sets of tyres per weekend? You've got to f**cking kidding!
Boy these are going to be cars of the Gods. Why don't they just race lawn tractors? This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the sport?
Fax
Boy these are going to be cars of the Gods. Why don't they just race lawn tractors? This is supposed to be the pinnacle of the sport?
Fax
F1 hasnt been the entertainment pinnacle of the sport for quite some time.
They may be the fastest car's by some margin, but its now too detached from reality.
The last mass produced cars parts taken from F1 technology was i believe...
Paddle shift gear boxes, or
Launch control ?
cant see anything else ?
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Fax on September 16, 2004, 03:40:46 am
Hi Guys,
Ferrari Spider I wish I could have made it to the classic, it looked like a great show. With my trips to Daytona, Sebring and the Petit its tough to afford much else, perhaps someday. I'm hoping to make a return to the 24 Hours next year after a couple of years away.
I was looking through some back issues of Motor Sport the other night and in an issue from a couple of years ago they had a great feature about the 1982 F1 season, 16 races with 11 different winning drivers, 7 winning teams. In 1981 and '83 six different winning drivers, In 1985 five different winners. Where have things gone so horribly wrong with F1? I'm not sure if we've had eleven different winners in the last decade.
John
Ferrari Spider I wish I could have made it to the classic, it looked like a great show. With my trips to Daytona, Sebring and the Petit its tough to afford much else, perhaps someday. I'm hoping to make a return to the 24 Hours next year after a couple of years away.
I was looking through some back issues of Motor Sport the other night and in an issue from a couple of years ago they had a great feature about the 1982 F1 season, 16 races with 11 different winning drivers, 7 winning teams. In 1981 and '83 six different winning drivers, In 1985 five different winners. Where have things gone so horribly wrong with F1? I'm not sure if we've had eleven different winners in the last decade.
John
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Ferrari Spider on September 16, 2004, 09:30:38 am
Robbo, i can feel this getting into one of those chats that is better when we have had a load of beer! what you doing next week?
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Fax on September 16, 2004, 02:24:15 pm
Sorry Guys,
I'll step down off of my usual F1 soapbox (for a few minutes anyway)
2.4 liter V8's....Hell! Lets just break out some old 1.5 liter Coventry Climax's
I'll step down off of my usual F1 soapbox (for a few minutes anyway)
2.4 liter V8's....Hell! Lets just break out some old 1.5 liter Coventry Climax's
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Robbo SPS on September 16, 2004, 02:24:52 pm
Robbo, i can feel this getting into one of those chats that is better when we have had a load of beer! what you doing next week?
At this rate sitting at home still of work injured !
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Jay (Team Cannonball) on September 16, 2004, 05:12:50 pm
Apparently Trulli has agreed to join Toyota to race alongside Schumacher jnr.
Formula One has gone down way down in my estimation, and these new rules sound absolutely ridiculous.
Jay
Formula One has gone down way down in my estimation, and these new rules sound absolutely ridiculous.
Jay
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Ferrari Spider on September 16, 2004, 05:35:17 pm
Apparently Trulli has agreed to join Toyota to race alongside Schumacher jnr.
Formula One has gone down way down in my estimation, and these new rules sound absolutely ridiculous.
Jay
Formula One has gone down way down in my estimation, and these new rules sound absolutely ridiculous.
Jay
Jay, do you think ridiculous equates to joke? If so, do you think we could add to the "unrelated Le Mans joke" thread.
Lets hope with the move of more car manufacturers into endurance racing it doesn't go the same way.
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: gibberish on September 17, 2004, 09:22:38 am
At this rate sitting at home still of work injured !
Was that a work related injury Robbo?
Title: Re:Villeneuve joins Sauber
Post by: Fax on September 19, 2004, 07:59:15 am
After a little bit a thought and five or six beers here's my take on the potential return of both JV and Mika. JV left F1 not entirely by his own choice and is clearly has something to prove. This is his motivation, to come back and prove his critics wrong, who said he was just in it for the BAR money.
Mika however has nothing to prove, he left on his own terms (presumably because he was tired and burned-out) and his rumured return seems mostly motivated out of boredom. A F1 return for this reason seems foolish. He'll quickly remember why he retired from F1 in the first place and his motivation will go to sh*t in a hurry. This reminds me way too much of Alan Jones and his F1 return in 1985-86. He retired at the end of 1981 saying he was fed-up and burned-out only to spend a couple of years on a farm in Australia being bored out of his skull. He returned to F1 in 1985 with the Lola-Beatrice team and the only thing he accomplished was to tarnish his reputation. He retired again in at the end of 1986, went home and had a very succesful career in the Aussie touring car series. I think if Mika had any sense he would bag the idea of returning to F1 and, if he still enjoys driving racing cars, do some sportscar or tin-top racing.
Personally I would love to see that mind-melting car control in a GTS Vette, Ferrari or dare I say...Aston Martin? If its being a prima-donna celebrity that he misses, then go back to Max & Bernie's made-for-TV dog and poney show and hang out with the posers.
Fax
Mika however has nothing to prove, he left on his own terms (presumably because he was tired and burned-out) and his rumured return seems mostly motivated out of boredom. A F1 return for this reason seems foolish. He'll quickly remember why he retired from F1 in the first place and his motivation will go to sh*t in a hurry. This reminds me way too much of Alan Jones and his F1 return in 1985-86. He retired at the end of 1981 saying he was fed-up and burned-out only to spend a couple of years on a farm in Australia being bored out of his skull. He returned to F1 in 1985 with the Lola-Beatrice team and the only thing he accomplished was to tarnish his reputation. He retired again in at the end of 1986, went home and had a very succesful career in the Aussie touring car series. I think if Mika had any sense he would bag the idea of returning to F1 and, if he still enjoys driving racing cars, do some sportscar or tin-top racing.
Personally I would love to see that mind-melting car control in a GTS Vette, Ferrari or dare I say...Aston Martin? If its being a prima-donna celebrity that he misses, then go back to Max & Bernie's made-for-TV dog and poney show and hang out with the posers.
Fax
