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Title: Florida racing?
Post by: Snoring Rhino on June 28, 2004, 02:55:29 pm
Taking the family crew to Florida for the first 2 weeks of August be good to brake out with Brad to see some racing action but does'nt seem to be much around I.e. cant find anything a Daytona or Sebring - any ideas?


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Brad Zarse on June 28, 2004, 03:07:10 pm
Or Drag racing please!!  NKHRA Racing....mmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Fax on June 28, 2004, 05:45:24 pm
Rhino,
Matt may be able to help you with some local stuff.  Its so blast furnace hot in Florida in August I doubt much of anything will be going on the motor racing front.  The Pepsi 400 NASCAR race goes off over Independence Day weekend so you'll miss that by a month.  Most of the big Florida races take place in the winter,  early spring and the autumn.
John


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Snoring Rhino on June 28, 2004, 06:33:15 pm
Ya, thats what I gathered.
Thanks for the reply.
Ian


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Chris24 on June 28, 2004, 07:33:03 pm
Should be plenty of Short track oval racing going on if  thats your thing. Try New Smyna Beach, Volusia County speedway, East Bay raceway, and there are a few others as well.

Sprint cars, Midgets, Late Models and Modify's should be racing at the weekends


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Matt Harper on June 29, 2004, 01:54:03 am
As mentioned in another thread, by August you'll have missed all the serious NHRA/NASCAR events - but Gainesville, Moroso and Orlando Speedworld host Run What Ya Brung and club events through the summer.
Daytona USA is a worthwhile attraction for any race fan - and you never know, you might catch some testing at the speedway.
As I live in central FL., let me know if you need anything specific and I'll do my best to hunt it down for you.
If you've not been to O'town before and need some suggestions on fun stuff to see and do (aside from the parks) let me know - I'd be glad to make some suggestions.
Matt


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Snoring Rhino on July 01, 2004, 01:01:34 pm
Thanks Matt,
We are staying in Kisssame, like you say, the only action I can find is legal street racing at Bradenton and some of the other drag strips.
Though we might leave the girls by the pool and make are way over to Daytona speedway anyhow, is there anything at Sebring apart from the track? Be grateful for any other ideas.


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Chris24 on July 01, 2004, 02:11:33 pm
No not really, but there is a nice little musuem at the airport containing Bob Tullis's collection of aircraft and race cars. Bob is the man behind the revival of Jaguar in the 80's with Group 44 racing. The museums free (Small donation to charity) and contains 6 race cars, 3 road cars and about 13 aircraft.
But at 90 miles from Orlando it is along trip out just to spend 20 mins in museum.

Have you checked out the short track action at Volusia that I mentioned. They have a dirt track and a tarmac track and sometimes race on both the same evening. Its only about 30 mins drive from Daytona so could be done with a visit to Daytona during the day and racing at Volusia at night.


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Chris24 on July 01, 2004, 02:15:38 pm
www.volusiaspeedwaypark.com


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Snoring Rhino on July 01, 2004, 02:29:05 pm
www.volusiaspeedwaypark.com
Thanks Chris - sorry I missed it earlier, might try and get overthere on the 14th (wifes birthday on 7th so could be a bit difficult)
cheers
Ian


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: rcutler on July 01, 2004, 02:48:44 pm
www.volusiaspeedwaypark.com
Thanks Chris - sorry I missed it earlier, might try and get overthere on the 14th (wifes birthday on 7th so could be a bit difficult)
cheers
Ian

I would plan to be in the UK on the 14th the LMES is at Silverstone!

I made a large cock up and have booked a 10am flight to Boston on the 14/08/04

SH!T SH!T SH!T


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Matt Harper on July 01, 2004, 03:02:05 pm
Thanks Matt,
We are staying in Kisssame, like you say, the only action I can find is legal street racing at Bradenton and some of the other drag strips.
Though we might leave the girls by the pool and make are way over to Daytona speedway anyhow, is there anything at Sebring apart from the track? Be grateful for any other ideas.


There is usually a pretty neat cruise/car show in Kissimmee each Friday night, in the Old Town. It's worth a look - friendly bunch, beers and hotdogs and some very classy resto's and street rods.
Daytona is a good day out - take your womenfolk, the beach and intercoastal waterway is great.
Daytona USA is a visitor attraction at the speedway, which is very NASCAR oriented - but examines the history of racing at Daytona, which goes back to the early 1900's. You could make a day of it there - and get a tour of the track. The banking at Daytona and Talladega is very impressive and is difficult to appreciate from a TV picture.
You may also like to check out the Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing, in Ocala, FL (about an hour, or so, north west of Orlando) 'Big Daddy' was the sh*t in Top fuel in early 70's and there are some famous rails and floppers on display (Fnarr Fnarr).
Staying on the drag racing theme, Orlando Speedworld and Moroso Motorsports Park are both good venues for club bracket/handicap racing - I race my car in FL Corvette Owners meets at OSW. It's reasonably tame, but much faster than a UK Run What Ya Brung. (Lots of people have 10 second street cars, who like to blow the cobwebs out on a Friday/Saturday night).
Short track isn't my cup of tea really - more like UK (BRISCA) stock car racing - but makes a change, if you don't mind a few rednecks and are immune to mozzie bites.
Sebring is a little depressing when there's no racing going on (The major ALMS teams do test there a lot though) - and if you can stomach a 4 hour drive south, Homestead may have some weekend warriors out on the oval while you're here.
Other than auto racing, you may enjoy Festival of Flight (piston engined aircraft) and the warbird museum at Kissimmee Municipal Airport. You can even get to fly in a P47 if you have the dosh and a sick bag.
 


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Fax on July 01, 2004, 03:15:41 pm
I'll add that if you get a chance, head over to Cape Canaveral and the Kennedy Space Center.  There are some very nice displays for visiters and a trip out to the old abandoned Apollo launch sites are a must, a very haunting experience being out there with just the wind rustling through the dune grass.
John


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Steve Pyro on July 01, 2004, 07:18:50 pm
Go to Ormond Beach, Daytona.  Close you eyes, imagine you're back in 1935 and can hear the thunder of a Rolls Royce type R aero engine.......

(http://www.tavaresmotorsport.com/images/day351.jpg)


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Steve Pyro on July 01, 2004, 07:24:23 pm
from the Chamber of Commence site  -

"......
Nineteen annual tournaments of speed were held on the shores of Ormond and Daytona Beach from 1904 to 1935, advancing the world Land Speed Record 15 times. In 1904, industrialist W.K. Vanderbilt crushed Winton's record, zooming down Ormond's beach at an astounding 92.30 miles per hour in the "No.1", his specially built Mercedes. Vanderbilt's feat received worldwide media attention and the event became the catalytic spark for associating Ormond and Daytona Beach with automobiles and speed.
But it was throughout the late '20s and '30s that new significant historic milestones in speed were made and Daytona Beach became the proving ground for man and machine. Each attempt to break the record garnered worldwide attention, which lead to Daytona Beach being nicknamed the "World's Most Famous Beach." On March 29, 1927, Englishman Major Henry Segrave made automotive history by breaking the 200 mile per hour limit while racing down the sands of Daytona Beach in the Sunbeam "Mystery S," a car powered by twin Napier aero engines, which weighed over 6,000 pounds.
But right on Segrave's heels were other dashing dare devils of speed such as Philadelphian Ray Keech, and, another fellow Englishman, Sir Malcolm Campbell. Campbell was the most determined driver to set new speed records. Throughout his 25 year racing career, Campbell broke the world Land Speed Record nine times, five of which occurred in Daytona Beach between 1928 and 1935. Campbell was attracted to Daytona Beach because of its solid racing reputation, which had long since been established, and for its wide, flat beaches. Campbell's most famous run at Daytona Beach occurred in 1935. Like Segrave before him, Campbell was determined to set new speed precedents, and Campbell eyed the 300 mile per hour barrier. He nearly set it. Campbell's 29 foot long mechanical marvel, the "Bluebird V", weighed 12,000 pounds and was propelled bya monstrous 2,227 cubic inch supercharged V12 Rolls Royce engine. Despite its enormous size and weight, the "Bluebird V" was capable of reaching speeds up to 300 miles per hour. It was a futuristic looking car and its design has inspired and influenced modern automobile designs. On March 7, 1935, just four days shy of his 50th birthday, Campbell posted an unprecedented official speed of 276.82 miles per hour. It would be Campbell's last world land speed run on the sands of Daytona Beach. The following year he attained the 300 mile per hour mark at the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. That year also marked the final year of the beach speed runs. This chapter of speed would close, but its remarkable history of setting new precedents is remembered and commemorated along Daytona Beach's Boardwalk amusement area. The Boardwalk's Salute to Speed exhibit features more than 30 granite plaques commemorating the area's rich motorsports history. Also located on the Boardwalk, the historic Sir Malcolm Campbell Clock tower stands as a tribute to his record setting achievements. Memorabilia from the early days of racing can also be found at the Halifax Historical Museum in Daytona Beach in its new exhibit, The Racing Zone.  www.daytonabeach.com (http://www.daytonabeach.com)......."


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Steve Pyro on July 01, 2004, 07:27:59 pm
What a beautifull looking car.......... :P

(http://www.simonlewis.com/images/Phobluebirdpushingoff35.jpg)


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Steve Pyro on July 01, 2004, 07:47:01 pm
Daytona Beach 1931

(http://www.rumbledrome.com/images/campbell31.jpg)

and 1933

(http://www.rumbledrome.com/images/campose.jpg)


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Snoring Rhino on July 02, 2004, 04:03:22 pm
What a beautifull looking car.......... :P

(http://www.simonlewis.com/images/Phobluebirdpushingoff35.jpg)
Thanks Steve and Mat , Bluebird was built at Brooklands in the Campbel sheds- I have been a Friend of Brooklands for some 5 years, and never get board of wandering around there - Just got their Concord and are starting to put it back together (my gradfather was a Aircraft fitter / Tin Smith there from 1930 to 1972 and Dad an Aircraft electrician, in fact you can see their house on the ariel model of the site - my Nan lived their until she past away last year bless her).

Matt also thanks for all the info, I will print it out and take it with me - as for Big Daddy saw him at Santa Pod in 75(?) - just awsome. The cruise and bracket racing sound good - different leauge to us brits - will you be running at OLW on either of those weekends?.






Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Matt Harper on July 02, 2004, 07:26:35 pm
Matt also thanks for all the info, I will print it out and take it with me - as for Big Daddy saw him at Santa Pod in 75(?) - just awsome. The cruise and bracket racing sound good - different leauge to us brits - will you be running at OLW on either of those weekends?.

My next humiliation will be August 27th at Orlando Speed World - though should have a line-lock fitted by then, just to get a little heat in the rear tyres....

Pepsi 400 for me tomorrow (courtesy of UPS again) so lots of roundy, roundy, bash'em, crash'em, Yeeeeeehaw, redneck, beer-swilling, "Go Dale", God Bless America etc. etc. Hmmm, 3 hours queue to get into the speedway, can't wait.


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Fax on July 02, 2004, 07:48:07 pm
Matt,
Yeah but you love it, admit it.  Actually it would be pretty cool to see the Cup guys under the lights at Daytona.  The sparks from the cars bottom out on the bankings would be impressive.  Only ever seen them at Talladega and Indy, both afternoon gigs.  Reds game for us tonight and tomorrow night, the Indians are in town for the weekend and the rivalry with our upstate neighbors in C-town is always a good beer drinking time.   I'll need your address, got something in the works you'll like...paybacks are hell.
John


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Canada Phil on July 07, 2004, 06:41:58 am
Hi Snoring,
                 While in Daytona: The Museum of science and technology has a small but interesting car section.
The girls might like the Teddy Bears and Quilts and other artsy stuff. When i went there was a great collection of motorcycles but i hink it was just temporary. Rainy day filler for you. Boot Hill saloon is fun for a quick beer in a Biker Bar. Titusville and Cape Caneveral are worth a visit.
Canada Phil


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: smokie on July 08, 2004, 12:42:48 am
I remember the Boot Hill saloon Phil. Just opposite the cemetery. I have their Free Moustache Rides sticker on my lM fridge.


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Matt Harper on July 08, 2004, 07:41:29 pm
'Lollipops' in Daytona Beach is quite amusing - but for Christs sake don't take the missus.....


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Snoring Rhino on July 09, 2004, 05:01:56 pm
Thanks guys, Sounds like a plan is needed!!


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Fax on July 09, 2004, 06:29:52 pm
Lollipops!  Yeah baby...
Kinda wonder what that place is like though when there's nothing going on over at the speedway.
John


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Matt Harper on July 09, 2004, 08:29:43 pm
Lollipops!  Yeah baby...
Kinda wonder what that place is like though when there's nothing going on over at the speedway.
John

Hi John
How was the sprint race at Mid OH? Pepsi 400 was horribly rain-delayed, a little mundane - but a good job by Jeff Gordon (who seems roundly despised by Dale Jnr's fans) and UPS hospitality was generous as ever.
I should imagine Lollipops is pretty quiet on a non-race weekend - only a hundred strippers on duty, instead of the usual silicone enhanced compliment......Dayum!


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: smokie on July 10, 2004, 01:48:17 am
Phil, was it Lollipops where we watched that pregnant looking lady removing her garments? I thought it was called something else.

Lollipops next year then...


Title: Re:Florida racing?
Post by: Fax on July 10, 2004, 05:51:38 am
Hi Matt,
When I got home from the Reds game and they weren't even to the halfway point of the Pepsi I seriously felt for you.  Can't seem to dodge the rain drops at Daytona this year.  I'll admit I was glad to see a non-DEI car win at a plate track for once.  Looked like Gordon and Johnson were the class of the field.  Mid-Ohio was alot of fun if very predictable,  Saturday's qualifying was a terrific show with the Dyson Lola's snatching pole honors from the Champion crew, but sadly were not able to convert it to race form.  The Vettes may not lose another race in GTS this season, man they look strong!  The Lambo's were a nice addition in GTS as was the Panoz contender in GT.  There were a few drama's when one of the Lambo's came into some fairly heavy contact with one of the Flying Lizard Porsche's on Friday.  The Petit will be rolling up soon.  At Lollli's the ratio of strippers to patrons is probably only 3 to 1 during a non-race weekend.
John