Club Arnage

I've found this super site with time saving tips for lighting a BBQ.   In the normal quest for finding more drinking time it seems to be the ideal solution.
Not 30 mins not 10 mins not even a minute not even half a minute but a staggering 3 Secs

The site?  http://web.archive.org/web/20021003203611/ghg.ecn.purdue.edu/~ghg/

So can anyone supply LOX?

t.

Do you know where you plan to camp? I'll stay well clear! Oh, and as a warning, your BBQ will probably look like this afterwards...

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Hi Tom,
I think that clip may be from Dr Cliffs support page, which gave me a lot of laughs:

http://www.cardhouse.com/drcliff/garage/tech/techsupport.htm

Lighting the bbq with something other than firelighters or bbq fluid is, I reckon, a coming of age moment. I think my baptism was with a can of four-star. Whoa! - who'd have thought it? - all that energy stashed up in one teeny weeny gallon can.

Hardly any PC time right now, hope I'm not missing much....
H

tmdg's culinary skills are already well known - remember the CD in the microwave thread? :)

Just praying tmdg isn't near me on MB!!!  ;D

Mr Toad,  

I'm not sure where I'm camping yet.   My idea spot would be on MB next to a rather extensive motorhome  with lots of fairylights and a paddling pool.  do you know anyplace like that?  :D

That pic looks a lot like my old BBQ.  I will get a more substantal one next time.

t.

No H it's from George Goble he was asked to shut down the original site. So there is only the archive site now.  

Dr Cliff had me in stiches too.

That gives me another idea.  I have a laptop I'm planning to cook in the Microwave.   Afterwards we could run some tests to see what car is best to use as a Clamp a la "Mazda Clamp"  http://www.cardhouse.com/drcliff/garage/tech/vcr.htm  

t.

LOX is hardly available from the local Carrefour and is marvellously combustible.  Amazing really that 2 of the most highly combustible gases on the planet (hydrogen and oxygen) form inert water when combined... But beware of LOX, mainly because it does not actually need an ignition source - as the following cautionary tale will tell you.   Picture a steely-eyed fast jet pilot on a transit flight across the Atlantic driving one of Her Majesty's finest fighting single-seat machines.   Halfway across, feeling hungry, he unwraps the ham sandwiches that have been carefully prepared by catering staff to sustain him on his trip.   Lowering his oxygen mask from his mouth, but leaving it dangling from the straps in front of his face with the oxygen flow still on, the intrepid hero goes to take a bite of this culinary delight.   At which point spontaneous combustion of the grease in the ham and butter occurs, which spreads to his moustache............. cue much hilarity from colleagues and, yes, this is a true story.

In answer to the question can anyone get liquid O2. That would be yes. Would anyone want to carry any all the way to Le Mans -  that would be a big fat no. It is rather reactive and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it if it caught. Being the Phd chemist that I am, I have a wide access to explosive/ combustible chemicals. (Last year we used magnesium ribbons to get the BBQ going), and I offer up a great deal of caution about anyone attempting to take liquid O2 with them.

Something I would suggest though, is trying to get your hands on some cardice. (Basically frozen CO2). This stuff will keep your beer cool for days. We have a 15l fridge that we take and I think we are gonna fill it with cardice. A small amount of this into the paddling pool makes a great beer chiller.

Jay

Where do you get cardice - haven't seen it in Tesco - and how much is it?

Cannonball,
I didn't think O₂ was flamable as such.  Sure nothing can burn without O₂ but O₂ it self doesn't burn.    Care to give us the whole scoop on combustion and all that stuff?  

BTW,  In O level chemistry we did cool stuff like putting glowing wire wool in to O₂ watching iron burn is great fun and very educational.

Also  did you look at any of the videos on the link I posted.  

Some of these threads are getting too serious.  

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Does anyone else remember the small dog with huge knob and bollocks?
H

Yes H, he's called Patch, and he's a Blue roan Cocker Spaniel.

Cardide MMmmmm!

Just typed it in on google and got this web address.

http://www.messer.co.uk/applications/pdf/car_pr_flyer.pdf

-80 Deg C it is a form of dry ice. I am sure it would be abused at Le Mans but I would check with ferry companys before you try to take it.

LOX does not burn but supports combustion vigoursly. The liquid itself is stable but in the immediate vicinity of any fuel source it becomes shock sensitive. As you can imagine if you have concentrated LOX (4000 times more than whats in the air) it doesn't take a large shock to cause ignition. Also the presence of static electricity can cause ignition.

You should be able to get Cardice from any friendly chemical supplier such as Merck or Fisher should oblige. Dunno if you need to be on a approved buyer list first  though.

Throwing pure caesium into water is another fun experiment. It works with sodium metal but less impressive.

Jay

Errr, (worriedly!) ??? what campsite did you guys say you will be on?

Cardide as a vigorous refrigerant seems slightly ok-ish (after all, a man needs... cool beer and hot girls)  :D but the O2 factor on top of five days of almost  (did I say almost?) junky trashy foodstuffs hastabe serious overkill......

bill ;)

Don't worry I have no intention in taking LOX with me. However I am interested in knowing the ferry companies view on NOS (nitrous oxide). I have a mini moto and I have found a way to convert it to NOS on the internet. However I'm not sure if I want a 50 cc home made NOS powered engine between my legs (the bike only ways 19 kilos) and also I not sure if the ferry company frowns on canisters of compressed gas. Although all those motorhomes must have some gas cylinders on board.

Thoughts please,

Jay

NOS on a 50cc engine!!!!!!!!! :o

... something like this

http://www.netcom5.com/x-tremescooters/X-Treme_Bad_Ass_Nitrous_Afterburner.htm (http://www.netcom5.com/x-tremescooters/X-Treme_Bad_Ass_Nitrous_Afterburner.htm)

Listed as an optional extra is:

'Nitrous Mask Install the Nirous mask kit and you can hit on the tank the same time you engine does.'  :D

Great site.   http://www.messer.co.uk/  I see that they can also supply LOX   (see Bulk Gases.)   I'm gonna call them monday to see if they will deliver to the Campsites.   Or may be they can put us in touch with a French counterpart.

How many want Dry Ice and how many want LOX?   I'm sure if we get enough of us we can get a discount.  I guess we'll need daily delivery of LOX unless anyone has a large but portable presurised cryogenic container.

t.

Ummmmm............getting scared now!!!!!!!!

What site are you on again??????  :o

I can see it now the latest saturn five firework rocket not placed quite upright by pisshead.
Said rocket launches across campsite straight into LOX barbecue.
Explosion occurs with resultant mushroom cloud growing larger.
Cue small nitro powered mini moto screaming away to escape the fireball.

Nice vision there Rhino.

If you are serious about getting LOX then a high quality thermos flask will double up nicely as cryogenic carrier. However the proper vessel for liquid gases is called a Dewar  flask and I can borrow some for the weekend (may'be). Although I really hope you aren't (serious that is).

Is that NOS scooter for real. NOS mask for the rider?????????

The site I saw to modify the mini moto claims the hp is multiplied by 5, the bike already does somewhere in the region of 35 mph. Which when you have your foot an inch from the ground feels, like you are caning it. Not sure about the NOS, too worried about my bollox. However seen a kit which increases the air intake, and petrol lines, increase in power by 20% apparently. Might be safer.

Jay

Be afraid............be very afraid.  This is getting bloody dangerous.  :o

Gibberish chill out a bit. 8)  Motor Racing is dangerous anyway.  We're just uping the anti a bit.    CannonBall is it liquid nitrogen that you can dip a nice bouncey rubber ball in and it changes in to a very brittle substance that if you try to bounce it, it just shatters?   May be we can get some of that too.   ;D

One of my friends gave me the reciepe for CO₂ grenades.  Apparently they are all the rage with the F1 Teams.  Anyone intrested in how to  PM me.

Does anyone know how to make a Cat bark like a dog?

t.

Yeah that will be liquid nitrogen that does that to rubber balls. Liquid Nitrogen is usually at 77 Kelvin which is mighty chilly. (Room temp is at 298 Kelvin, 1 deg C = 1 K).

An interesting thing I saw done once, was to take a rubber mould, pour some wine in it, add a stick, dip in liquid N2, shatter the rubber. Voila, instant wine ice lollies.

It would work equally as well for vodka, whisky. The ability to completely freeze alcohol.

How does one make a cat bark like a dog. Does it involve a firework?

Jay

Now your talking TVR ice lollies :-)


You dip it in petrol and set light to it.  It goes WOOF!!

Do you know how to make a dog go Meow like a Cat?

 yes I can,and nitrous oxide as well well as helium . and liquid nitrogen.

I want this

(http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/shop/hi/7111hi.jpg)

and this

(http://www.magnumforceracing.com/store4/nitrous/nos_03403.jpg)

for this  ;D

(http://www.valleymotorsofwinona.com/images/Inventory/68Firebirdd.jpg)


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ooohhhh yes ;D

a really fast BBQ, no sorry thats my Scimitar :(

Good man Saveloy.  I knew someone would come though.     I like the Helium idea too that stuff is great for makeing you sound really sophisticated.   ;D

I think this is going to be a most memorable trip.

t.

 I'm on BJ and beginning to get seriously worried :o :o

I'd like to think that clubarnage.com might have more members after the race than less...take care lads!!!

just give these people a call

http://www.france.airliquide.com/fr/business/products/oxygen/index.asp (ftp://http://www.france.airliquide.com/fr/business/products/oxygen/index.asp)

Oddly the applications list doesn't mention barbeques!

I can supply Propane and good quality vegetable oil if anyones interested.

The oil may have bits of old batter in it though.