Title: Attention Mr harper
Post by: Robbo SPS on January 26, 2004, 06:46:01 pm
Just a little something for you.
The lovely A series , a 45 bhp monster covered in all the oil that should be in the engine.
fancy that as your avatar.
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The lovely A series , a 45 bhp monster covered in all the oil that should be in the engine.
fancy that as your avatar.
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on January 26, 2004, 07:29:02 pm
Thanks for this Robbo.
It surely is a thing of beauty and is about the same size and power output as my washer fluid motor - though a lot more oily.
It looks like it has had a hard life and no mistake. One careful owner - and 17 lunatics, possibly?
Funny as f**k - well done!
It surely is a thing of beauty and is about the same size and power output as my washer fluid motor - though a lot more oily.
It looks like it has had a hard life and no mistake. One careful owner - and 17 lunatics, possibly?
Funny as f**k - well done!
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Robbo SPS on January 27, 2004, 12:02:45 am
The little baby will be transformed into a monster by 2005...
Although its started out as this , formally known by a silly boy in Brighton as "Bumble"
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Although its started out as this , formally known by a silly boy in Brighton as "Bumble"
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: jpchenet on January 27, 2004, 02:43:29 am
What's the plan Robbo. Three minis ready to travel down in 2005?? One White, One Red, One Blue?? :)
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: mgmark on January 27, 2004, 09:29:24 am
Hey come on - give it its due, it has an alloy rocker cover - that must be good for a good few mph extra................
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: gibberish on January 27, 2004, 10:52:08 am
Hey come on - give it its due, it has an alloy rocker cover - that must be good for a good few mph extra................
Alloy rocker cover maybe, but did you ever try to change that infernal bypass hose without removing the thermostat housing. :( :'( :'(
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Andy Zarse on January 27, 2004, 11:00:39 am
Stick the little hose in the freezer in compression and it becomes much easier. Alternatively boil it to make it more flexible. It's tricky but it can be done.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: gibberish on January 27, 2004, 11:09:36 am
The other night, my scouser chum said he did it once by hacksawing a quarter of an inch off the pipe at the bottom, but I like that freezing idea. I just hope I never need to use it again ;)
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Robbo SPS on January 27, 2004, 01:41:22 pm
What's the plan Robbo. Three minis ready to travel down in 2005?? One White, One Red, One Blue?? :)
Just one in red at the moment although some of the others fancy 3 cars. But it will be mostly me and Gold Fish SPS who put in the hard work.
We will strip it out , remove old A series , ad in 1400cc K series lump from a broken Rover ,put on a flip font, leave the origional 1000 gear box in, strip interior, replace with roll cage and baby seat ( for Gold Fish and JO jO ) then give it a rally spec workout , and finally nice paint job and the obligatory Union jack roof job.
well thats the idea...
Just need to get into that garage and remove all the old rubbish.. and for the weather to get a little warmer.
Then.........
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: mgmark on January 27, 2004, 01:50:17 pm
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the obligatory Union jack roof job
why just the roof......... ;D
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Mr. Rick on January 27, 2004, 01:53:19 pm
Oh how this all sounds soooooo familiar!! All the things I wanted to do and more!
I know he's a bit of a trek but Bill Richards is a top chap and want he doesn't know about tweaking Minis etc. ("postage stamp" and "would fit on" spring swiftly to mind!).
He's based in Ashford, Kent - not far from the Eurostar terminal.
http://www.billrichardsracing.com (http://www.billrichardsracing.com)
Spent days down there helping out with my build while the boys did the bizzo on the underbonnet stuff.
Have fun and remember to give us a toot in MB in 2005. Haven't seen a Mini in there since mine in 1997-1999!
Cheers
Rick
I know he's a bit of a trek but Bill Richards is a top chap and want he doesn't know about tweaking Minis etc. ("postage stamp" and "would fit on" spring swiftly to mind!).
He's based in Ashford, Kent - not far from the Eurostar terminal.
http://www.billrichardsracing.com (http://www.billrichardsracing.com)
Spent days down there helping out with my build while the boys did the bizzo on the underbonnet stuff.
Have fun and remember to give us a toot in MB in 2005. Haven't seen a Mini in there since mine in 1997-1999!
Cheers
Rick
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Perdu on January 27, 2004, 03:38:37 pm
What's the plan Robbo. Three minis ready to travel down in 2005?? One White, One Red, One Blue?? :)
We will strip it out , remove old A series , ad in 1400cc K series lump from a broken Rover ,put on a flip font, leave the origional 1000 gear box in, strip interior, replace with roll cage and baby seat ( for Gold Fish and JO jO ) then give it a rally spec workout , and finally nice paint job and the obligatory Union jack roof job.
well thats the idea...
Then.........
I like the "remove the A and bung in a K" bit, but I amn't convinced you will get the K to do more than perch ungracefully on top of that 1000 cc gearbox!
I think you will have to persuade the whole K series drive train into the hole. It can be done but I'm buggered if I know enough to helps ya. Metro transplant looks likeliest, then use the 1400cc K to burn the balls off most convoy bound stuff heading Sarthe-wards.
Good luck and have fun.
Bill :o
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: powermite on January 29, 2004, 12:40:53 am
Me thinks ive found something to suit Harper(and me) and Robbo
Rover 3.5 V8 Mini
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: powermite on January 29, 2004, 12:42:04 am
Just so Robbo doesnt feel left out
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 29, 2004, 01:21:28 am
Me thinks ive found something to suit Harper(and me) and Robbo
Rover 3.5 V8 Mini
PM
Very smart - routine maintenance must be "interesting". Rover 3.5 V8 Mini
PM
I saw a web site the other day where someone was fitting a V8 in the rear of a Mini - mid engine stylee.
The engine was fitted across the rear subframe - I couldn't work out the transmission though.
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Barry on January 29, 2004, 10:11:46 am
In the mid Seventies there was a very neat little mini running at Santa Pod and Blackbush drag strips called 'Stripteaser'.
Based on a Mini traveller, it had a 4.2 litre Jag lump in it,positioned where the front seats should be, the driver sat to the right above the rear wheel.
It went like stink, and always got a good cheer. Last I heard they had managed to squeeze a 5.3 V12 in 8), but a never saw that running.
Based on a Mini traveller, it had a 4.2 litre Jag lump in it,positioned where the front seats should be, the driver sat to the right above the rear wheel.
It went like stink, and always got a good cheer. Last I heard they had managed to squeeze a 5.3 V12 in 8), but a never saw that running.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 29, 2004, 10:31:32 am
Here it is in the configuration with the 6 cylinder Jag as described by Barry......
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 29, 2004, 10:32:37 am
........however, it was originally a full steel bodied car
Future project Robbo ;)
Future project Robbo ;)
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Mr. Rick on January 29, 2004, 10:32:57 am
Steve, you are indeed a Googlemeister!! You are the Prince of Surfing!!
;D
;D
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 29, 2004, 10:34:36 am
No. I'm just a mad drag racing fan. I have a whole load of Santa Pod photos from the 70's / 80's / 90's that I'm (very) slowly scanning to my PC.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 29, 2004, 10:47:16 am
Here's an earlier photo in steel
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on January 29, 2004, 08:47:43 pm
No. I'm just a mad drag racing fan. I have a whole load of Santa Pod photos from the 70's / 80's / 90's that I'm (very) slowly scanning to my PC.
Steve - have you anything in your archive on a Jnr Comp Alt '32 Ford Model B, with a 4.5 Daimler SP called "All Shook Up"? It's from the era you've coverered and ran a lot at the Pod.
My brother in law Ricardo bought this car in mid 80's and I drove it for him for a couple of seasons. Sadly we lunched the SP450 but put in an ex Dave Grady 460ci big block Ford, and re-christened it "Red Roar". It would be great to see some shots of it, if you have any.
Matt
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Robbo SPS on January 29, 2004, 09:21:09 pm
........however, it was originally a full steel bodied car
Future project Robbo ;)
Future project Robbo ;)
I am still trying to talk my mate ( 50/50 project ) into a 2 l 16v Turbo , P series rover engine . But he reckons No.
May have to stick with the little engine, especially if sponsorship requests keep coming in . Morgan . MG etc etc
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Barry on January 30, 2004, 09:48:58 am
Steve
Thanks for digging out the photos of Stripteaser, the older steel bodied one is the one that I remember, even that used to embarrass lot flasher machinery.
Photo circa 1971?
Fond memories as a 14 year old sitting at Blackbush supping beer watching these cars running the 1/4.
Thanks for digging out the photos of Stripteaser, the older steel bodied one is the one that I remember, even that used to embarrass lot flasher machinery.
Photo circa 1971?
Fond memories as a 14 year old sitting at Blackbush supping beer watching these cars running the 1/4.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 02:20:33 pm
Steve - have you anything in your archive on a Jnr Comp Alt '32 Ford Model B, with a 4.5 Daimler SP called "All Shook Up"? It's from the era you've coverered and ran a lot at the Pod.
My brother in law Ricardo bought this car in mid 80's and I drove it for him for a couple of seasons. Sadly we lunched the SP450 but put in an ex Dave Grady 460ci big block Ford, and re-christened it "Red Roar". It would be great to see some shots of it, if you have any.
Matt
My brother in law Ricardo bought this car in mid 80's and I drove it for him for a couple of seasons. Sadly we lunched the SP450 but put in an ex Dave Grady 460ci big block Ford, and re-christened it "Red Roar". It would be great to see some shots of it, if you have any.
Matt
Here it is Matt
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Bobblehat on January 30, 2004, 02:40:45 pm
I rember that one, that was you Matt! Coooooolllll 8)
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: gibberish on January 30, 2004, 02:42:34 pm
My brother in law Ricardo bought this car in mid 80's and I drove it for him for a couple of seasons.
Very impressive Matt. What's it like to drive one of those things down a strip?
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: jpchenet on January 30, 2004, 02:47:37 pm
When's the photo from Steve?? Any chance of one from the 80's when Matt would have been driving it??
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 02:48:05 pm
Here's another one of Stripteaser with the body lifted showing the Jag engine.
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 03:11:01 pm
All Shook Up at Blackbushe late '70's
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on January 30, 2004, 04:24:02 pm
Very impressive Steve - thank you for digging these out. These shots were taken before we bought the car. Ricardo bought it in 1984 and we ran 85/6 seasons. As in the pix, the car was running a nitrous injected SP450 Daimler hemi, which looked great, but was a little fragile. We ended up blowing the block to smithereens, by over liberal application of the giggle gas. The cylinder block literally fell apart when we took the heads off.
In order to creat a more robust package, we installed a 460ci wide-block that came out of Dave Gradys 57 Fairlane "Spirit of the Fifties". This 4 bolt engine had much more torque (but was a little heavier) and delivered around 430hp (without the N2O) It had a 1000cfm Holley Dominator and was a real handfull out of the traps. It had the original Jaguar solid axle, which was a little worrisome, half-shaft-wise. But it did the job.
Best et was right on the bracket 9.26 148mph. It was quite a good car to drive (tracked straight and stopped OK) but it would easily rotate the tyres on the rims and when it got out of shape it needed catching quick - we installed a larger steering wheel, to help that.
Ricardo ended up trading it against a gasser - a 1971 351ci Pinto called 'Revellution' - now, that bastard was truly scary! Got anything on that one Steve??
In order to creat a more robust package, we installed a 460ci wide-block that came out of Dave Gradys 57 Fairlane "Spirit of the Fifties". This 4 bolt engine had much more torque (but was a little heavier) and delivered around 430hp (without the N2O) It had a 1000cfm Holley Dominator and was a real handfull out of the traps. It had the original Jaguar solid axle, which was a little worrisome, half-shaft-wise. But it did the job.
Best et was right on the bracket 9.26 148mph. It was quite a good car to drive (tracked straight and stopped OK) but it would easily rotate the tyres on the rims and when it got out of shape it needed catching quick - we installed a larger steering wheel, to help that.
Ricardo ended up trading it against a gasser - a 1971 351ci Pinto called 'Revellution' - now, that bastard was truly scary! Got anything on that one Steve??
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 05:03:57 pm
Do your remember the rail dragster run my Russ Carpenter that used a SP450 Daimler engine running on a mild mix of nitromethane !
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 05:14:26 pm
Ricardo ended up trading it against a gasser - a 1971 351ci Pinto called 'Revellution' - now, that bastard was truly scary! Got anything on that one Steve??
The only 'Revelution' that immediately springs to mind is Clive Skilton's Top Fuel dragster's.I'm off to the attic for more research!
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 05:18:03 pm
A Pinto something like this?
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: powermite on January 30, 2004, 05:38:41 pm
Blimey that brings back memories.Didnt he have a Pop in a similar paint scheme?
PM
PM
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on January 30, 2004, 07:51:16 pm
A Pinto something like this?
Jeezus, Steve, that's the car! It was offered as a prize in a Revell models competition and the winner couldn't handle it. Ricardo drove that car on the street! It was bloody ridiculous. It ended up Porsche Guards Red - a truly immaculate paint job. I never drove it on the strip (Richard did), but it was a ferocious car - had a 351 Windsor V8 Wiend tunnel ram, 750 double pumper, Crane hi-lift, Moroso - the lot.I never told him this, but I very nearly crashed it in the car park at Screamin' Alley in Kent, when it 'got away from me' - it was scary.
Where was this pic taken? Looks like Pennine?
PM your correct - Des built a Cleveland powered Ford Anglia that was even stronger than the Pinto.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on January 30, 2004, 08:16:23 pm
Here's a couple more to look for Steve.
Phil Welch's 71 428 Cobra Jet Mustang, "Wildman"
Sue Coles, altered "Hellzapoppin"
Jeff Hauser's 71 440 6-Pak Challenger (I wanted that car sooooo bad!)
There was also a guy from Leeds (I can't) remember his name, but he had a Peugeot 405 bodied pro-comp with a monster Rodeck engine in it.
I've really lost touch with current drag racing - but I used to love competing and watching. My brother Dave and I were at the US Nats at IRP when Eddie Hill broke into the 4's (1988, I think) racing Kenny Bernstein. It was totally awesome. John Force broke the funny car record at that meeting too.
Anyone remember The Ant Hill Mob, from Stockport - used to turn up at Pennine with a couple of nasty Fords and a Luton van full of spares and horny women - those dudes were cool and influenced me, in wanting to get involved - it was just for shits and giggles - and it was super-friendly. We got out when people started spending 20 grand on a jnr comp engine - ah, those were the days!
Phil Welch's 71 428 Cobra Jet Mustang, "Wildman"
Sue Coles, altered "Hellzapoppin"
Jeff Hauser's 71 440 6-Pak Challenger (I wanted that car sooooo bad!)
There was also a guy from Leeds (I can't) remember his name, but he had a Peugeot 405 bodied pro-comp with a monster Rodeck engine in it.
I've really lost touch with current drag racing - but I used to love competing and watching. My brother Dave and I were at the US Nats at IRP when Eddie Hill broke into the 4's (1988, I think) racing Kenny Bernstein. It was totally awesome. John Force broke the funny car record at that meeting too.
Anyone remember The Ant Hill Mob, from Stockport - used to turn up at Pennine with a couple of nasty Fords and a Luton van full of spares and horny women - those dudes were cool and influenced me, in wanting to get involved - it was just for shits and giggles - and it was super-friendly. We got out when people started spending 20 grand on a jnr comp engine - ah, those were the days!
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Bobblehat on January 30, 2004, 08:29:46 pm
I rember a "Mr Six" that ran a SP450 - if thats the old Daimler motor? Was that run by a guy called Dennis Priddel?
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 08:48:52 pm
Yes, Mr Six was driven by Dennis Priddle - but he was latterly a Keith Black engine man.
Robin Read (of the Jim Read / Steve Read 'Le Patron' fuel dragster family) also ran a SP450 engined dragster in the early 80's. Steve Read moved to Australia and ran in Alcohol / Methanol dragster classes.
Geoff Hauser now builds cars / chassis for other people see http://www.hauserracing.com/ (http://www.hauserracing.com/).
I remember the 440 Challenger being driven by Sylvia Hauser in Modified and later Super Gas classes. She later drove a Ford Sierra with the Dodge engine shoe horned in.
I'll dig up some photos.
Robin Read (of the Jim Read / Steve Read 'Le Patron' fuel dragster family) also ran a SP450 engined dragster in the early 80's. Steve Read moved to Australia and ran in Alcohol / Methanol dragster classes.
Geoff Hauser now builds cars / chassis for other people see http://www.hauserracing.com/ (http://www.hauserracing.com/).
I remember the 440 Challenger being driven by Sylvia Hauser in Modified and later Super Gas classes. She later drove a Ford Sierra with the Dodge engine shoe horned in.
I'll dig up some photos.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Bobblehat on January 30, 2004, 08:57:01 pm
Glad the old brain ait to gone! I rember seeing "Mr Six" at the opening of "Long Marston" made a big impresion on me as a young lad overdosing on Street Machine & Hot Rod and any other mags that had cars with large motors and flames - real or painted.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 09:21:23 pm
Okay,
Sylvia Hauser :
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 09:22:02 pm
Hellzapopin'
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Bobblehat on January 30, 2004, 09:31:17 pm
Stev do you have a pic of the Reliant Scimitar (no not a Robin) it run as a "Funny Car" I think? I only ask as I was in mine at the petrol station and a lady asked me a few questions about mine and said she used to dragrace one, but not with an Essex V6 said it was too small a motor for some reason ???
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on January 30, 2004, 10:17:38 pm
Okay,
Sylvia Hauser :
Sylvia Hauser :
Jesus, just look how that big Mopar digs in. That's the ex-Paul Rossi Challenger I think. It is the absolute epitome of early 70's American muscle. Some people say it should have a 426 hemi in it to be the absolute, but the 440 wedge was equally good and produced in the thousands. One hell of a motor car, and no mistake.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 10:33:30 pm
Yes, the ex- Paul Rossi car
and pretty good at burnouts
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on January 30, 2004, 11:07:54 pm
If only these pix had sound!
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 11:11:42 pm
Matt, download this movie with GOOD sound of a Fuel Funny at Santa Pod
http://www.nitroheaven.freeserve.co.uk/showtime/video/roundtwofinal.zip (http://www.nitroheaven.freeserve.co.uk/showtime/video/roundtwofinal.zip)
http://www.nitroheaven.freeserve.co.uk/showtime/video/roundtwofinal.zip (http://www.nitroheaven.freeserve.co.uk/showtime/video/roundtwofinal.zip)
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: jpchenet on January 30, 2004, 11:15:02 pm
Can't get the sound on the mpeg Steve.
Thanks for the great photos though!!!
Thanks for the great photos though!!!
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on January 30, 2004, 11:18:38 pm
Shame. It worked for me - it's bloody awesome.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Bobblehat on January 30, 2004, 11:22:04 pm
Ohh yessssss ;D
Wish I had 5.1 dolby thingy watsit dodah on my PC. Plus a volume comtrol that whent to 11
"its one louder"
Wish I had 5.1 dolby thingy watsit dodah on my PC. Plus a volume comtrol that whent to 11
"its one louder"
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: jpchenet on January 30, 2004, 11:23:28 pm
Sorted!!!! Bl**dy kids messing with the PC again.
Superb!!!!!
Superb!!!!!
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on January 30, 2004, 11:32:56 pm
Matt, download this movie with GOOD sound of a Fuel Funny at Santa Pod
http://www.nitroheaven.freeserve.co.uk/showtime/video/roundtwofinal.zip (http://www.nitroheaven.freeserve.co.uk/showtime/video/roundtwofinal.zip)
Wow - the old "Showtime" vette. Was that Gene or the Scandinavian guy who bought the car later?
The explosion of noise when he hits the gas is really impressive and doesn't do justice to the effect in real life, with the ground shaking - it just hits you in the chest - mind-melting. The only thing that comes near to a fuel car launch for me, was when we sneaked onto the Mulsanne straight during the '91 race. A C91 Sauber passing 25 feet away, doing 200+mph removes the air from your lungs also.
We're in danger of getting flamed in this thread for not being Le Mans related and I thank the Gestapo (moderators) for tolerating it's non Le Mans content. Drag racing is a bit specialised and if you're not into it - it can seem a bit banal - but it is a truly massive sport here in the US. There are lots of people driving around in 10second street cars here. The Gatornats are just up the road from me in Gainesville FL in March, if you fancy it Steve - trouble is it usually clashes with Sebring - not sure about this year, but it is one of the biggest meets in the National circuit.
I run my vette from time to time in 12.6 bracket at Orlando Speedworld. its OK, but I do often get creamed by riceburners with outrageous turbocharged, water injected nitrous spraying, screaming 4 bangers - it's not right.
http://www.nitroheaven.freeserve.co.uk/showtime/video/roundtwofinal.zip (http://www.nitroheaven.freeserve.co.uk/showtime/video/roundtwofinal.zip)
Wow - the old "Showtime" vette. Was that Gene or the Scandinavian guy who bought the car later?
The explosion of noise when he hits the gas is really impressive and doesn't do justice to the effect in real life, with the ground shaking - it just hits you in the chest - mind-melting. The only thing that comes near to a fuel car launch for me, was when we sneaked onto the Mulsanne straight during the '91 race. A C91 Sauber passing 25 feet away, doing 200+mph removes the air from your lungs also.
We're in danger of getting flamed in this thread for not being Le Mans related and I thank the Gestapo (moderators) for tolerating it's non Le Mans content. Drag racing is a bit specialised and if you're not into it - it can seem a bit banal - but it is a truly massive sport here in the US. There are lots of people driving around in 10second street cars here. The Gatornats are just up the road from me in Gainesville FL in March, if you fancy it Steve - trouble is it usually clashes with Sebring - not sure about this year, but it is one of the biggest meets in the National circuit.
I run my vette from time to time in 12.6 bracket at Orlando Speedworld. its OK, but I do often get creamed by riceburners with outrageous turbocharged, water injected nitrous spraying, screaming 4 bangers - it's not right.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Bobblehat on January 30, 2004, 11:42:02 pm
To bring on to a le mans link, but only just, there is a guy in the uk running and Aston Martin (been to LM and coming back) Vantage with 1000hp :o and its street legel too. Mind you some of the V8 motors of Ford and Chev ran at both - drag and LM - all be it for deffernt resons.
I wounder what a Top Fueler would do down the Mulsan?
I wounder what a Top Fueler would do down the Mulsan?
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: jpchenet on January 30, 2004, 11:44:44 pm
I wounder what a Top Fueler would do down the Mulsan?
Probably about 20 feet higher into the trees than the Merc!!! :o
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: mgmark on January 31, 2004, 07:34:30 pm
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download this movie with GOOD sound of a Fuel Funny at Santa Pod
Steve - that is truly outstanding - sounds like a squdron of V1s approaching Mach 1........
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: mgmark on January 31, 2004, 07:41:28 pm
People - if you want more classic stuff, then try ................
http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/mc.htm
The rocket car just proves that when the RAF doesn't need old engines, there is always a good home waiting..........
http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/mc.htm
The rocket car just proves that when the RAF doesn't need old engines, there is always a good home waiting..........
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: goldfishsps on February 01, 2004, 02:00:52 am
i tell ya now when we have finished that baby she will do at least 60 mph especialy with the lightweight rocker cover
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on February 01, 2004, 06:56:41 pm
People - if you want more classic stuff, then try ................
http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/mc.htm
The rocket car just proves that when the RAF doesn't need old engines, there is always a good home waiting..........
http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/mc.htm
The rocket car just proves that when the RAF doesn't need old engines, there is always a good home waiting..........
Mark, I remember being at Santa Pod in '84 when Sammy Miller brought over from the States his 'Vanishing Point' rocket car.
The car was pushed to the start line and placed 'in stage'. With a bit a button pushing and valve opening, the reaction in the rocket motor began with a few farts and pops.
Then, when Sammy was ready, the commentator made the crowd give a "five, four, three....." countdown.
At "one" the main reaction was initiated and..........whoosh.......the car was gone. Truely amazing, I nearly soiled my strides.
I think he pulled more than 4 g's on acceleration and minus the same in braking!
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Post by: powermite on February 01, 2004, 07:04:30 pm
I was there too and my mate aimed his crappy Boots special camera as the car passed and when we had it developed it was a perfect pic.I'll see if i can find it.
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Steve Pyro on February 01, 2004, 07:17:02 pm
In doing a bit of Google poking around, I've just found out Sammy Miller was killed in a Texas oilfield in October 2002 - nothing to do with rocket cars.
Here's a link to a video of one of his 300 mph plus passes at Santa Pod.
http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/4.35@317.mov
(http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/4.35@317.mov)
Needs Quicktime to play.
Here's a link to a video of one of his 300 mph plus passes at Santa Pod.
http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/4.35@317.mov
(http://www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/4.35@317.mov)
Needs Quicktime to play.
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Post by: Steve Pyro on February 01, 2004, 07:21:47 pm
I couldn't edit the f***ing link to the site, so here it is again.
www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/4.35@317.mov
Arha, it's the @ that sods it up.
www.ukdrn.co.uk/mc/4.35@317.mov
Arha, it's the @ that sods it up.
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Post by: mgmark on February 01, 2004, 09:52:47 pm
Steve - thanks for that - do you know what sort of rocket (rather than jet I presume) motor it was running? It doesn't seem to lay any articularly visible exhaust
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Post by: Steve Pyro on February 02, 2004, 09:28:40 am
Apparently some kind of 'homemade' hybrid hydrogen peroxide affair.
There's a good 'history' of Sammy here :
http://www.trakbytes.com/hofsm.html (http://www.trakbytes.com/hofsm.html)
There's a good 'history' of Sammy here :
http://www.trakbytes.com/hofsm.html (http://www.trakbytes.com/hofsm.html)
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Post by: mgmark on February 02, 2004, 01:28:31 pm
That explains it - the reaction produces water, at the sort of temperature that it is not visibler as steam - same sort of rocket motor that the Brits used in the 1960s in the space race. And yes - we did actually put an object in space - the Prospero satellite - with the last launch of a Black Arrow rocket from Woomera on October 28, 1971 before the programme was chopped.
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Brian(Liverpool boys) on February 02, 2004, 01:35:09 pm
They had a rocket powered car at Le Mans a few years ago, do not remember what year, I am sure someone will quote the year, it ran up the pit straight on the Saturday morning before the race, it was awsome.
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Post by: Bobblehat on February 02, 2004, 05:48:39 pm
Rover had a Jet car that raced at LM, came 10th I think Hill was one drive who was the other.
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Post by: Steve Pyro on February 02, 2004, 07:10:16 pm
A jet car yes, but not a thrust jet, rather a turbine driving the wheels.
The Rover BRM raced at LM in 1965 driven by Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart. The car was 10th overall at 99mph (13.5mpg) in spite of engine damage.
Here's a piccy
(Bobblehat, thanks for nicely steering the thread back to Le Mans ;) )
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The Rover BRM raced at LM in 1965 driven by Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart. The car was 10th overall at 99mph (13.5mpg) in spite of engine damage.
Here's a piccy
(Bobblehat, thanks for nicely steering the thread back to Le Mans ;) )
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Post by: Bobblehat on February 02, 2004, 07:51:46 pm
Thats the little beauty :D, never new it was wee Jackie with him, must of been an intresting seat fitting!! I think the car is at Gaydon and still runs from time to time.
On the subject of turbines I rember reading that an American car maker was going to go to LM in the 90's with a turbine car that ran generators to charge batteries......or have I been eating too much cheese again :P
On the subject of turbines I rember reading that an American car maker was going to go to LM in the 90's with a turbine car that ran generators to charge batteries......or have I been eating too much cheese again :P
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Post by: Robbo SPS on April 06, 2004, 03:15:59 am
Matt , just needed to bring this to page 1 for you.
a little update on the mini.
Its now a mini Turbo, courtesy of a 1300 A series garret T2 turbo producing with a small addition to the exhaust, 100 bhp.
It wont be fit to run until 2005 , but it will be fun at the traffic light grand prix.
Maybe a few Dr's track days first ????
a little update on the mini.
Its now a mini Turbo, courtesy of a 1300 A series garret T2 turbo producing with a small addition to the exhaust, 100 bhp.
It wont be fit to run until 2005 , but it will be fun at the traffic light grand prix.
Maybe a few Dr's track days first ????
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: powermite on April 06, 2004, 08:34:33 am
Bloody hell Robbo,only nitrous to go now and you'll be able to break the speed limit!!!
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Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: mgmark on April 06, 2004, 10:15:57 am
Robbo,
Well done lad - sounds good. Rather than nitrous though, stick on a decent intercooler and add an Aquamist injector to the manifold to make the intake air even cooler and denser, into which you can then squirt more fuel = bigger bangs. Relatively uncomplicated and, as well as providing a nifty increase in power, it works well on temperature control. Works even better when the liquid injected is a 50/50 mix of methanol and water.
We installed it on the off-road spaceframe pictured below that we're racing this season, which is shoved along by a turbo lump - difference in power and smoothness of power delivery is noticeable.
Mark
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Well done lad - sounds good. Rather than nitrous though, stick on a decent intercooler and add an Aquamist injector to the manifold to make the intake air even cooler and denser, into which you can then squirt more fuel = bigger bangs. Relatively uncomplicated and, as well as providing a nifty increase in power, it works well on temperature control. Works even better when the liquid injected is a 50/50 mix of methanol and water.
We installed it on the off-road spaceframe pictured below that we're racing this season, which is shoved along by a turbo lump - difference in power and smoothness of power delivery is noticeable.
Mark
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Post by: Nobby Diesel on April 06, 2004, 10:17:55 am
Take a look at the vinyl lettering on th bonnet. Oh, how we used to do things; and thought they looked good.
These are the same self adhesive letters that you can buy at your local hardware shop.
I could never get them to stay on long enough to get round the next corner - I'm sure that these were put on for the picture.
Pure quality.
These are the same self adhesive letters that you can buy at your local hardware shop.
I could never get them to stay on long enough to get round the next corner - I'm sure that these were put on for the picture.
Pure quality.
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: BigH on April 06, 2004, 05:11:41 pm
Blimey Charlie!!
What form of motorsport is this?? You appear to be driving headlong into a wall of earth and countryside, is it a kind of sod arranging or turf cutting competition? And the orange flag, is that a "help, get me the f**k out of here" signal from the hitchhiker picked up earlier?
It also appears to be raining jellyfish.
H
What form of motorsport is this?? You appear to be driving headlong into a wall of earth and countryside, is it a kind of sod arranging or turf cutting competition? And the orange flag, is that a "help, get me the f**k out of here" signal from the hitchhiker picked up earlier?
It also appears to be raining jellyfish.
H
Title: Re:Attention Mr harper
Post by: Matt Harper on April 06, 2004, 09:27:54 pm
Matt , just needed to bring this to page 1 for you.
a little update on the mini.
Its now a mini Turbo, courtesy of a 1300 A series garret T2 turbo producing with a small addition to the exhaust, 100 bhp.
It wont be fit to run until 2005 , but it will be fun at the traffic light grand prix.
Maybe a few Dr's track days first ????
a little update on the mini.
Its now a mini Turbo, courtesy of a 1300 A series garret T2 turbo producing with a small addition to the exhaust, 100 bhp.
It wont be fit to run until 2005 , but it will be fun at the traffic light grand prix.
Maybe a few Dr's track days first ????
Thanks for the update Robbo - power to weight ratio is moving your project into hot hatch territory. You may consider keeping your hands clean and swapping it for an RS Turbo Fiesta, Fiat Uno or Pug 205 GTI and not have a steering wheel positioned like that of a London bus and enjoying similar or better performance, with more creature comfort. I admire your ingenuity and gritty fortitude, but as the old saying goes, no matter how hard you try, you just can't polish a turd.
Give it up, Robbo, it'll only end up pissing you off - after all that hard graft and welding fumes, to still get shut down at the lights by kids in rice burners.
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Post by: mgmark on April 06, 2004, 09:45:18 pm
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Blimey Charlie!!
What form of motorsport is this?? You appear to be driving headlong into a wall of earth and countryside, is it a kind of sod arranging or turf cutting competition? And the orange flag, is that a "help, get me the f**k out of here" signal from the hitchhiker picked up earlier?
It also appears to be raining jellyfish.
H
What form of motorsport is this?? You appear to be driving headlong into a wall of earth and countryside, is it a kind of sod arranging or turf cutting competition? And the orange flag, is that a "help, get me the f**k out of here" signal from the hitchhiker picked up earlier?
It also appears to be raining jellyfish.
H
H - 'tis the renowned sport of hill rallying and competitive safaris in the British Off-Road Championship- enormous fun and relatively cheap motorsport. Your assessment is absolutely accurate, although I think that at this stage of that round, we had got rather bored with turf cutting and sod arranging and were trying a new method of sub-surface aquaplaning. The jellyfish were numerous, massive and quite pi**ed off at being disturbed from their usual pastime of lurking around in deep muddy pools waiting for unsuspecting ramblers. The orange flag is probably just a course marker being waved helplessly by one of said ramblers. Sadly, I do not yet have a shot taken at the same place on the final round of the day, when we the bonnet flipped onto the windscreen, as the bonnet pins sheared, as we entered the water with an injudicious excess of speed....... Just for the hell of it, here's another fairly dynamic piccy of the infernal machine on terra firma.
