Club Arnage

Anyone know where I can get a replacement CA flag for the one I've lost?

Swap you mine for something beginning with M...




(Beef flavour)

Done!

I have been!


Just need to find the bloody thing now!

Mine was nicked last time we were on Houx Annexe. It was taken withing 30 minutes of putting it up. No doubt a trophy on some french wall!

My CA Flag is something I haven't seen for a while...
i wonder where I put it

Just a reminder your Lordship, and to say I have found the CA flag...

Please do not forget to bring your holy offering of the sacred Smiths snack - peace be upon the modified maize starch Monsters (beef flavour) for so shall they be munched.

We do not want another disappointment like two years ago, when you couldn't be bothered to deliver them and your pals shovelled them down their greedy necks like a fatty calf; thou shalt be smited down by the venegance of mighty Lineker.

I still have the name of the company who made them ( somewhere in my dusty Le Mans box)

What about Rusty's T Shirt printer, might be in that game as well. Although there are bespoke printers online who will print anything you want.

>Martini...LB

If we are going to get some more made up, I would like one too

Didn't Paddy source the last ones?   

IIRC you are right Anita, for some reason the guy who did the original ones couldn't do them. (gone bust?).
So Paddy got them done. You can tell between the 2 production runs, the second batch are a darker blue than the originals.

Thing is.......I forgot! I'm prepared for the forthcoming smittance!

There is a place just down the road in town that makes flags if we want to put an order together.

Count me in on that.

We ought to out-flag the Beermountain crowd!

I'll have a couple!

I'll have a couple too pls
 ;D

+ 1

me too x 1 flag

Ok. Does anyone have the design on file? I'll pop down and get a price on 20.

Definately put me down for one.

I'll have one to please  ;D

Big CA

The original artwork created by Chris Considine is long gone. This is a recreation of it based on the low-res version.

http://www.clubarnage.com/calogo.jpg (http://www.clubarnage.com/calogo.jpg)

I also have a psd file if you need it even bigger.

Here is the thumbnail;

Perhaps Robbo SPS or Paddy still have the original?

Folder of CA logo artwork in various formats, including monochrome tif and psd for vinyl stickers.

http://www.clubarnage.com/artwork/ (http://www.clubarnage.com/artwork/)

Good stuff. I'll pop into town on Monday and get a price and estimated lead time. I'll report back ASAP.

Si

One for me too please. I still have the flagpole.

One here as well please.

Two please!!

Can we have a decent size, like 5' x 3' if possible??

With all due respect to those who did the original artwork and design what do folks feel about having a second alternative design?  eg

I like that. A better contrast between the two colours. Probably easier to spot at dusk whilst wearing beer goggles too.

Are the powers that be ok with all this?

I quite like the blue on yellow look, but perhaps a warmer yellow to make it less IKEA.

Would look good on the back of your mandatory French hi-viz vest.

I like it! It would help me find my tent at 3.00am Sunday! Gets my vote.

I like it too, nice and simple!

I agree that 5' by 3' is a good size to go for. Nicely big enough to be proudly flown - not so big that it hangs limply in anything other than a force 10 gale.

A quick tally has 15 takers. I'll get a price on 20 flags today and get back to you.

Ok folks. I called him and got this reply.....

Hi Si,
 thanks for the enquiry.  20 printed flags to your design hemmed all round with sleeve to take pole would be £29 each plus £15 postage.  Please call or text to go ahead.  Thanks simon

How does this compare with the last batch?

IIRC last batch were £20.
Are eyelets an option rather than a sleeve?
Most people want to have several flags per pole, and a sleeved flag reduces the placement options considerably.

Memory played tricks.
The original batch were £10 each in 2005. Bargain.
And the second batch were 25€ in 2009/2010?

http://www.mrflag.com/

This lot will do anything you want and you can email a/w and they will quote.

>Martini...LB

did a job recently for a sign company up here.

Found out that the company that they used to print the banner was from down south. May be worth seeing how much they would charge for a number of flags.

May be worth asking at what point the price goes down, due to set up cost.

details - http://www.hampshireflag.co.uk/index.shtml

That price was for twenty flags, with options for more as and if required. I'll call them this morning and see about the eyelet option rather than the sleeve. Obviously the place is here in town so we won't have to pay the £15 postage.

Dayglo yellow attracts insects like crazy. May be less of a problem on flags than the t-shirts I did but beware.

Certainly 5*3 in the lightest polyester flies really well from the 7m fibreglass poles we have on our pitch. Quality linen flags are too heavy and even worse when wet.

Any further progress on this??

Is there any way that, say 50 or 100 can be ordered and placed into a "shop" section on the website?

Whilst they may not all sell in one go, I'm sure they would sell by the time June comes around.

Finally noticed this one - add one or two to the order for me - prefer the original colours, but happy to go with the flow.

MG Mark 

Problem is that 100 flags would have to be paid for before being out in the shop and at £29 each that's some lay out. If anyone has a spare three grand kicking about and doesn't mind not making a pennies profit I'm sure we could sort something out.

The 'CA shop' idea is a good one, but needs a start-up investment.

Maybe this is a potential candidate for 'crowd funding'. The shop would (of course) not charge a mark-up, but it would need working capital to buy stock.

Potential CA liveried items might be...

Flags
PVC Banners
Laser cut car stickers
T-Shirts / Polos / Fleeces

Anything else?

P.S. Long ago, back in the 90's we had the annual CA 'sticker challenge', where we tried to get CA stickers on as many 24h competitors cars as we could. It might be fun to try that again.

Just to spice that up a little bit - our friends from Turn 10 at Sebring, have become particularly skilled at this over the last few years....

.......about time they had some competition?   >:D

Just a thought, but a supplier like 'shotdeadinthehead.com' could be useful as they don't carry stock, but print to order?

The "shop" prices should contain some sort of mark up to cover any admin costs that may crop up. Any left over monies can go to a nominated charity.

Lawnmower Man had some CA lanyards done a couple of years ago, handy together with PVC ticket holders.
Not forgetting CA thermal mugs!

Turn 10 provide beer Koozies to keep your beer cold in the hot weather.....
.......yeah maybe the Thermal cups are a good idea actually..... ;)

And......the Turn 10 Thermal Mugs are very good too......

With the memories of Le Mans 2015 warming me, I realise that I was naked. I did not have a flag. I found this thread, but cannot see if flags were made and bought.

But I want one.

Did they get created, and are there any spares?

Aricus

Original run, the light blue ones with the chequered background, was 20.
And I think the second run , the darker blue ones, was about the same number.
So that's not a lot, some have been nicked on the campsites, some lost/damaged.
Most people who have one are hanging onto them.

You could try and organise another production run for more recent CA members.
I think Grand Fromage or perhaps Delboy have the art work.
The previous 2 runs were order only, money upfront from those who wanted one IIRC. About £20 - 25 apiece.
Unfortunately I think the guy who did the original ones died. When the second run was done nobody could be found who could do the subtle checkered flag background effect of the originals.

Could we perhaps ask Rusty to help with some new, updated artwork?

There are enough guys on the site who know where you get limited runs printed.

At £20/£25 I'm in.

I might be interested in a new one , if it was sufficiently different from the old one.

I'd be intrested as it can go with my Bentley one in the garage

Definitely on for a couple of them

MG Mark

I lost mine in a storm in 2008/9, so yes please, maybe a progression from the previous runs would be good.

I'm in for one too!

I still have 2, near mint, but they never hit the £500 reserve on eBay ;D

We still fly ours but I would have a new one.

High-res artwork for CA logo can be downloaded from this link,

http://www.clubarnage.com/artwork/ (http://www.clubarnage.com/artwork/)

The calogo.psd file was what I used as a basis for last year's polo shirts and hats.

I still feel naked without a flag.  8)

Who wants one and I will get some costs for the production run?

Aricus

Me please.

In fact make it two if it helps numbers?

me please

Me please

We proudly used to fly ours at our camp at Maison Blanche, but we now fly it at our new encampment at Terte Rouge after being moved out of Maison Blanche by the Porsche Centre.  On behalf of Team Booze 'n Tabs, we will have a new one to fly alongside our trusty old one  ;D

Oh Why not. Although I still have my original and have flown it Every year since at Le Mans  Sebring & Petit and some other places and it is is still in reasonable shape it will not last forever.

Phil

Yup, I'll have one.

Please may i have one. Do they come with a pole? If so how much per metre? 

Yes please

1 please :)

Planning a return to Le Mans next year, so if they're being produced it'd be rude not to get one  ;)

Yes please from me.

MG Mark

Yes please also, and a pole if they are available?  ??? One of those nice bendy ones that attach to your tent... ;D That'll be two at Tertre Rouge.

Yup!

OK,

This is the list of folk who said that they want one:

Please check that I am correct!

Snoring Rhino
Werner
Rhino
landman
Kev_mk3
Newcastle Dave
Shortcut
Canada Phil
Steve Pyro
lofty
Dettore
Dick3D_NL
PAFC OK
Lord Steve
Aricus

I am assuming a 5' x 3' flag, single sided.  Getting the cost down has been a challenge, but I have found a Chinese printer, colorful-hut, that offers this for £15.80 including free economy delivery.

I am very tempted to see one first before ordering the rest.

Unless anyone is in a hurry, or suggests another printer I will order one.

Aricus

Cooooo Weeee Aircus did you ask about poles? Just a thought but would inflatable ones be good? They wouldnt sink if we had a flood.
Cheers Lofty.

Is is possible for me to have one. We've not been to Le Mans for years and are heading back next year with some newbies, so thought i'd make sure we make the right impression on them  ;D

Pole I use is a carp fishing pole, very effective, got mine from a company called blue sky iirc.
Only problem is that the fibreglass spikes that they can supply to anchor it are not great in the windy conditions that are often present in LM.
Problem solved by getting 2 lengths of threaded steel rod and hammering them in the ground, but take a crow bar to get them out when you leave!

I usually lash the flagpole to one of the gazebo uprights with cable ties. Simples.

Used to do that, but stopped when it destroyed the gazebo in a squall.

This place does flag poles (plus all manner of bright coloured dangly things) - http://www.hizakite.co.uk/ (http://www.hizakite.co.uk/)

Don't overload the carp-rod poles!!

This was mine in 2007.

Del

I bought a 7m carbon-fibre pole from Life's A Breeze.

So far it's lasted 4 Le Mans

https://www.lifebreeze.co.uk/shop.php?pg=cat&cat=flag-poles

The carp pole I got has lasted 10 years, 3 flags on it and a pennant, still going strong.
So it will probably break this year!

You missed me off the list......

MG Mark

2 for me please!

Poles from here: https://www.skyblueleisure.co.uk/acatalog/Telescopic_Poles.html (https://www.skyblueleisure.co.uk/acatalog/Telescopic_Poles.html)
We always remove the very end section as it is too thin to cope with flags!

Wow, those people have every pole requirement covered, good call!  ;)

Mark,

Sorry - added!

Ian

Robbo,

OK - added.

Can I assume that these poles work with sleeved flags or do people usually have something else?

Aricus

The Chine printer has vanished, so I'm on the search for a new one.

All the UK printers appear quite expensive - £40 and upwards, so I've reached out to alternative Chinese printers and am waiting quotes back.  Again, I think I'd like to try one.

I am assuming 3'x5' on nylon, single sided digitally printed.  I am assuming eyelets, but I can vary this.

As this is new to me, can I use someone to test what I get back for quality?

The updated list that I have is:

Snoring Rhino
Werner
Rhino
landman
Kev_mk3
Newcastle Dave
Shortcut
Canada Phil
Steve Pyro
lofty
Dettore
Dick3D_NL
PAFC OK
Lord Steve
Aricus
Robbo - 2
MG Mark

Let me know if I have missed anyone off, or you want more than one (except Robbo)

Aricus

Eyelets will be cheaper on the flags. Use these: https://www.skyblueleisure.co.uk/acatalog/info_3_SB00105.html (https://www.skyblueleisure.co.uk/acatalog/info_3_SB00105.html)
Or tie wraps!

The flag bungees work very well and seem to last without breaking.

Yes, double wrap a cable tie at the first joint for the top of the flag and then just fly a "bright coloured dangly thing" from the top section, so you can identify yours from a distance

Can I cancel mine please - I've found my original one.
Thanks

Steve,

Yes of course.

Aricus

THe new chinese supplier looks very capable.

Can I ask, should I order 100DPolyester or 150DPolyester?

Aricus

Good work, what's the price difference?

Hi!

The price difference on the ex-works price is not significant... $5 each

I do not have the full costs yet, but these are the assumptions I'm working through....

Total shipping to the UK - $70, but is based on weight.
that I don't use an import agent
duty around 5% or less
VAT at 20% which applies to goods and shipping cost (oh, how I love HMRC)
UK p&p £5

So, I think an estimate of £20 and £25/flag for the two weights.

This looks around 50-60% the price I was getting from UK suppliers, so looks worthwhile.

Aricus

I'd be tempted to go for the better quality material one.

Robbo,

I wasn't thinking quality, rather about the way that the lighter material will show off the flag in the balmy breezes that we traditionally have at Le Mans.

These numbers mean nothing to me, being a flag virgin.

I will go with the heavier weight unless someone tells me otherwise....

Aricus

I'd go with the better quality

Better quality for me.

For the sake of a fiver I'd go for the quality offer.

If Lord Steve is cancelling his order I'll take his flag to bring my order to two if that helps?

Does anyone think that CA should buy a (small?) number of flags to keep as stock and sell them on for a profit to swell CA funds?

Just thinking that if the base cost is £25 then how about making some available through the site for £30, which is a 20% mark-up but in reality only a fiver?  As certain super markets would have us believe "every little helps".

P.

The concept of CA holding a stock of items has been discussed and rejected a few times in the past due to potential problems with storage/wastage/cost etc. 

Essentially, the various items of merchandise (T-shirts, polo shirts, lanyards, calendars, flags) have been organised by an individual who has collected the monies for the orders BEFORE placing the order on the supplier. Much of this happened prior to 2007 when CA did not have any central structure or bank accounts. It was during 2007 that we had to become a little more organised.  A few items after that time - T-shirts in 2008 and 2009, and the calendars produced for 2008, were still organised by an individual, but a markup was included in the price to boost CA funds.  As there were invariably people who would order an item then disappear, it was decided that orders on suppliers would only be made for confirmed customer orders (confirmed = paid!!).

Just took a look back - the original flags were generated by Robbo SPS back in around March 2005 - 30 were ordered at a cost of £10 which included postage.

Del

Fair enough, Del, if it's been tried before and not worked then ignore my thoughts.  I have to say that I run a car owner's club and merch is the same in that some people just don't cough up the cash when they said they would.

All the best  :)

I've not been online for a while...can you add one for me to the list please if its not too late

On the list thanks and I'd go with the better quality choice.

MG Mark

Definitely the heavier one, if only, in my case at least, to properly reflect its owner!

Si H,

Yes of course.

I am waiting a sample, so a short while yet.

Ian

Cheers Ian, just let me know what you need from me and when. We've ended up on Epinettes but we've got tickets so will fly the flag on our return to Le Mans.

Simon

The Chinese printers look OK.  I've asked for a sample, but they sent me pictures instead!  I've asked again.

The costs look OK - certainly less than £20 including all shipping, probably closer to £15, but won't know until we have the exact shipping weight.

I'm tempted to go with them, without a physical sample.

Thoughts?

Aricus

Aricus, what address do you want my sample sent to?
laters lofty

If they look OK then for fifteen quid or so it has to be worth a punt? Go for it I say.

I say go for them without a sample. I realise that you probably feel responsible for getting us good flags but I for one will be happy to pay for whatever turns up. Thank you for taking a lead on our behalf

Here here......

ditto

Any update?

It's only 165 days, 20 hours and a few minutes to the start of the race...

 ;D

Just checking the artwork and finalising the price (again)!

Aricus

looking forward to this

Hi, any update on the flags??

Progress is being made on my plans for June, ferry booked and more importantly the car started and moved in and out of the garage under its own power for first time in over 7years last weekend! All i need to do now is get the dashboard installed, mot it and run it in before Le Trip.

Simon

Simon, what's the car?

The suspense is killing me  ;D ;D
My rusty brain recalls mention of a Jensen Interceptor.....but that might just be wishful thinking on my part as I have always fancied one  ;D ;D

Phil

Wishful thinking Phil.

Its a kit car, a Quantum 2+2, nothing exotic but a bit of fun/distraction from the regular driver.

I took it off the road after I had a prang in my every day car (another story) and wasn't allowed to drive for a year due to my head/brain injury. In my wisdom I decided to redesign the dash in the Quantum while I couldn't drive it, planned it, started it, got married, moved house, renovated house, had kids and now its finish or bin it time for the car. I should be heading to flock the new bit I made in a couple of weekends, then time to get the dial mounting bit dipped and then the whole thing back together and MOT'd by Easter. Sounds simple, just need to factor in work and family too!

I did a Tiger Super 6 from scratch a few years ago. Great car and I spent ages on the dash as some of the examples I saw were dreadful.
I feel your pain though - they can take over your life!

Right Si and Steve we need Pictures.

I can relate trying to keep a 35 year old motorcycle in running condition.
(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab145/MaximPhil_photos/XS1100%20Venturer/XS11%20Fall%202011/093.jpg) (http://s858.photobucket.com/user/MaximPhil_photos/media/XS1100%20Venturer/XS11%20Fall%202011/093.jpg.html)

1981 XS1100
Phil

She's a beauty Phil!
I'll put up a photo if you tell me how to do it.
Steve

Wow....just look at that XS! Beautiful then and beautiful now.

I hankered after one of these in '81, then thought I might get an XJ750 but, being barely financially stable and practically uninsurable, settled on an RD350LC, heady days.

I did a Tiger Super 6 from scratch a few years ago. Great car and I spent ages on the dash as some of the examples I saw were dreadful.
I feel your pain though - they can take over your life!
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Too right about taking over your life....just need to make it up to the family once she's back in the road. The Mrs and I built the Quantum from scratch, good use of her student loan all those years ago!!

I'll try and stick a picture on over the weekend Phil.

Hi Steve,
             You need a photo hosting site I use  http://photobucket.com/
Once picture is loaded ther you simply copy the URL and the image appears here on the forum.

Phil

... or you can just go to Additional Options in the screen where you are posting a reply and add a photo!!  :) File size is limited though, but still can be pretty big. There are laods of products to resize images, and I think you can do it directly in the Windows 10 (and maybe 7) image viewer.

Hope this works...

looks a beauty

She was mate - pity I sold her and wonder where she is today....

You know you can track MOTs and insurance online, and see if she's still alive.

MOTs - https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/ (easily waste an hour going back through your old motors, also useful if you are looking to buy a car - to see the mileage and advisory history)

Insurance - http://ownvehicle.askmid.com/ strictly you are supposed to be the owner. useful for nosey people :-)

Hi Steve,
             Looks nice. Did it come in a big box with all the pieces and instructions or did you have to source bits and pieces for the chassis /body ?
Phil

Hi Phil
I started by ripping the engine out of a Ford Granada and completely stripping it down into it's component parts before meticulously cleaning, replacing and re-assembling over a four month period before I committed to buying the kit. I figured that if I could re-build an engine I could nail together a kit of parts. Hmmm. The chassis, body work and a host of components from breakers yards were gradually put together over four further years to get to this point.
I christened her Stella as a recognition of the quantity of said lager that was consumed in my garage during the build process!

Steve

I know the trials of building a kit....photo's of mine will be posted soon. I just had a lack of time over last weekend but will give it another go this weekend, need to dig out the old photo's as you don't really want to see it in its current semi-dismantled condition in my garage!

Show and tell time -

Some have seen my Dax cobra replica either at Le Mans or in Blighty.
She's over 20 years old now.  I started the build by stripping the 6.6 litre V8 in 1995 and the car was completed and registered in 1997.
Over the years, I've done a few mods (was originally built by me with an auto box) to a 4 speed manual and now with EPAS steering.
The old girl is still going strong and, just about, carries all my Le Mans camping stuff.

She's gorgeous Steve - nice work.
I remember about 15 years ago talking to a guy on Maison Blanche with a Cobra rep very similar to yours. He told me that he'd spent days with a file making AC badges out of brass before having them chromed. I don't suppose that was you.......

Steve, definitely not. I've got far more sensible things to waste my time doing  ;D

So Flags  ::) ;D

Weren't we expecting a sample in November?  Are my two mint examples worth money now?

And yellow is a nice colour for a 7ish, and I was surprised nobody make AC badges (except out of plastic)

any joy  ??? :P

It's the end of the week, isn't that enough??

For more joy I guess letting you know there's 97days until the race starts might help?

Hi!

Joy is not plentiful in terms of flags.

Our Chinese friends have not responded to my emails for a while now. (Distracted by job interviews and house building).

No money paid, but it took a lot of time to get to the point of transaction.

I will give this some focus next week 'cos I cannot go flagless.

Aricus

Bated breath...........

Has anybody else tried ordering their poles from Sky Blue Leisure? https://www.skyblueleisure.co.uk/acatalog/Telescopic_Poles.html (https://www.skyblueleisure.co.uk/acatalog/Telescopic_Poles.html) I've been trying for a few days now only their PayPal link fails every time and there is no answer to my 'phone calls. Gone out of business?

I have used www.lifebreeze.co.uk

Great service, prices seem competitive and the goods turned up next day.

Bought 2 of their 7m carbon fibre extending flag poles.

Paul

Ha! Was using them as you replied. 4M extending pole and all the fixings on the way - good price and they seem to know whats what re flags and associated paraphernalia. Well happy.