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Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: arnage74 on May 27, 2010, 09:56:35 pm



Title: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: arnage74 on May 27, 2010, 09:56:35 pm
sounds interesting! ... although I can't imagine Le Mans without engine sounds, but I'm curious how the Porsche GT3 R Hybrid will sound....
http://baszero.ch/racing/2010/05/hybrid-racers-at-le-mans-2010/

Since the creation of the Le Mans 24 Hours in 1923, the event has always been a technological laboratory for constructors and manufacturers. The motor car has begun an energy revolution and new projects could appear in racing in the near future.   The ACO and the Le Mans 24 Hours feel honour-bound to supply the arena in which tomorrow’s technologies can prove themselves. With this in mind, the ACO is providing manufacturers with an opportunity to showcase their savoir faire before the 78e Le Mans 24 Hours.
10 avant-garde cars with sporting tendencies will put on a demonstration on the big Le Mans 24- Hours circuit on Saturday 12th June at 12h10. They will then be on display in the 24-Hours support paddock from 14h00 on Saturday to 16h00 on Sunday.
The following cars will take part: the PORSCHE 911 GT3 R Hybrid, the AUDI e-Tron, the PEUGEOT RCZ HYbrid4, the electric FERRARI 599XX HPDC, the electric TESLA, the hydrogen MAZDA RX-8 RE, the hydrogen BMW, the natural gas VOLKSWAGEN Scirocco, the electric SECMA F16 and the electric ANDROS. These cars, in the hands of well-known drivers, will do two laps of the 13,629-km big circuit before going to the 24-Hours support paddock.
The Le Mans-24 Hours race will continue to distinguish itself as the event enabling the most innovative manufacturers to prove themselves on the most demanding, revealing circuit in the world.
The new 2011 ACO regulations make provision for smaller, lighter engines producing less CO2. Hybrid engines recovering electrical energy thus generating significant fuel savings will appear in the race with real chances of victory. Other technologies: 100% electric engines, engines running on natural gas will, in the future, give rise to fresh battles between manufacturers on the Sarthe circuit.
These different futuristic technologies will be presented to the public and the media at the Le Mans 24 Hours by the ACO in agreement with the major manufacturers. The first demonstration will take place on the Le Mans 24-Hours circuit on Thursday 10th June from 21h15 to 21h35.


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: Kristof on May 27, 2010, 11:13:38 pm
The Porsche hybrid sounds nice, very nice !  Can't tell the difference with a normal GT3 in race-spec.

All those others that won't make any noise at all should be shot at once, together with the diesel tractors  >:D


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: Jon King on May 28, 2010, 12:57:09 am
 I was reading the autosport a couple of weeks back saying that Toyota may return to Le Mans if they can enter a hybrid LMP1


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: Lazy B'stard on May 28, 2010, 09:00:22 am
The beginning of the end. :'(


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: Brad Zarse on May 28, 2010, 10:17:58 am
Beginning of the end?  Not at all.

Hybrid, means just that - Hybrid - it still has an engine, and realistically, it'll have a petrol engine as well.  KERS was not the end of engine noise in F1.  This can only be a good thing for everyone - we all know technology makes its way into road cars from the track - hybrid is a better alternative than full electric, or in my opinion, diesel. 

Expect toyota to bring a high revving, full on racer, with batteries to boost power and save fuel consumption.  Given the last Toyota that ran at Le-Mans, I can't WAIT to see it!!





Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: Lord Steve on May 28, 2010, 12:03:31 pm
In my very humble opinion the following MUST be outlawed:
Diesel cars (whoooooosh!)

I am wary of the following:
Hybrid cars (but keep an open mind)

Electric cars are only acceptable if they run in slots on the track and CA members get to have a go with the hand held throttle from the grandstand. Even then, they must have bits of cardboard in the spokes to make them sound like they have internal combustion engines.

What's the world coming to??


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: mike(liverpool boys) on May 28, 2010, 12:09:50 pm
Beginning of the end?  Not at all.

Hybrid, means just that - Hybrid - it still has an engine, and realistically, it'll have a petrol engine as well.  KERS was not the end of engine noise in F1.  This can only be a good thing for everyone - we all know technology makes its way into road cars from the track - hybrid is a better alternative than full electric, or in my opinion, diesel. 

Expect toyota to bring a high revving, full on racer, with batteries to boost power and save fuel consumption.  Given the last Toyota that ran at Le-Mans, I can't WAIT to see it!!

Im with Brad on this one. I cant remember the name of it but is there not a hybrid motor running around just now with a V6 under the bonnet,0-60 in 6 odd seconds and still returns mega mpg's???





Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: hgb on May 28, 2010, 02:57:48 pm
Panoz entered the Q9 Hybrid (Sparky) in 1998. Unfortunately, the car lacked proper testing so that it didn't qualify.

(http://image.motortrend.com/f/green/why-gasoline-blooded-enthusiasts-will-learn-to-love-hybrids/17717982+w750/panoz-q9-sparky.jpg)


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: nopanic - neil on May 28, 2010, 03:02:35 pm
Hybrid's - i'm mean who would look at building a hybrid?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motor-shows/geneva-motor-show/7354962/Geneva-Motor-Show-Ferrari-unveil-hybrid-car.html

(http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ferrari-ed03.jpg)

its not red!! - its green  ::) (not even a nice green)

what next, a diesel Ferrari ???


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: lofty on May 28, 2010, 08:41:37 pm
our nige has a hole in his seat and strange piping to the engine bay.could this be the start of a new type of nitros injection? is it a hybrid?


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: Steve Pyro on May 30, 2010, 08:41:56 pm
I think they should go all the way and include steam cars as well  ;D

(http://www.steamcar.co.uk/data/images/bscc_image25.jpg)


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: Bonio on May 30, 2010, 10:43:36 pm
our nige has a hole in his seat and strange piping to the engine bay.could this be the start of a new type of nitros injection? is it a hybrid?
Thats because he is full of Sh@*e , Brown stuff. The super methane special.


Title: Re: Hybrid and electric cars at Le Mans
Post by: Leftie on June 01, 2010, 02:13:39 am
It won't be long before the terms 'clockwork' or 'rubber band' returns.