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Club Arnage => General Discussion => Topic started by: Grand_Fromage on May 25, 2010, 09:33:11 am



Title: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Grand_Fromage on May 25, 2010, 09:33:11 am
There may be a short interruption in service this Thursday (27th May 2010). I'll add to this thread when I know the exact time.

We need to change the IP address of our server. This is not our choice, it has been imposed on us by Uni-C who are retiring the "130.228" series of addresses. As a result, we need to change our DNS servers to resolve the clubarnage.com domain to the new IP address (95.128.24.74). The process of DNS broadcast can take anything from minutes to hours, so you may not be able to connect for a while.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Lawnmower Man on May 25, 2010, 09:55:51 am
There may be a short interruption in service this Thursday (27th May 2010). I'll add to this thread when I know the exact time.

We need to change the IP address of our server. This is not our choice, it has been imposed on us by Uni-C who are retiring the "130.228" series of addresses. As a result, we need to change our DNS servers to resolve the clubarnage.com domain to the new IP address (95.128.24.74). The process of DNS broadcast can take anything from minutes to hours, so you may not be able to connect for a while.

It's worth noting the new IP Address 95.128.24.74 if you are suffering from the delay in the new address propagating though the DNS servers you can add it to your hosts file and work around the problem that way.  If there is call for it I'll post the instructions for doing that.

T.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: geoffd on May 25, 2010, 01:51:07 pm
There may be a short interruption in service this Thursday (27th May 2010). I'll add to this thread when I know the exact time.

We need to change the IP address of our server. This is not our choice, it has been imposed on us by Uni-C who are retiring the "130.228" series of addresses. As a result, we need to change our DNS servers to resolve the clubarnage.com domain to the new IP address (95.128.24.74). The process of DNS broadcast can take anything from minutes to hours, so you may not be able to connect for a while.

It's worth noting the new IP Address 95.128.24.74 if you are suffering from the delay in the new address propagating though the DNS servers you can add it to your hosts file and work around the problem that way.  If there is call for it I'll post the instructions for doing that.

T.

And then in three years time when it changes again all the people that changed their hosts file will have forgotten and won't be able to get to the new one....


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Grand_Fromage on May 25, 2010, 03:01:58 pm
UPDATE

The change will happen at 12:00 noon UK time. After that, it will take a while for the DNS to propagate, but you still should be able to reach CA in the interim just using http://95.128.24.74 as CA is the default site on the server. There might be ten minutes or so of re-boot, and the time may not be exactly on the second, so don't panic if nothing works for a short while.



Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Barry on May 25, 2010, 05:50:29 pm
Thanks for the warning GF.
If we have problems we can ask Tom about it on Friday.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Lawnmower Man on May 25, 2010, 05:56:14 pm
Thanks for the warning GF.
If we have problems we can ask Tom about it on Friday.

Oh Dear!!!!!    I'll have to find my hard hat in that case.


 I hope it all goes smoothly.  :-)

In fairness the change required on the Server is minor it''s just the time it takes for the DNS to catch up.

T.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: geoffd on May 25, 2010, 09:24:05 pm

 I hope it all goes smoothly.  :-)

In fairness the change required on the Server is minor it''s just the time it takes for the DNS to catch up.

T.

We had a customer one that took 3 days once!  But that was a few years ago, seems to be only a few hours these days,  we did a load of our websites not long ago, but then we could still run the sites on backup servers on the old IP addresses in the mean time, thank god!  But it was the following day before the last dribs and drabs dropped off.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Lawnmower Man on May 25, 2010, 11:04:54 pm

We had a customer one that took 3 days once!  But that was a few years ago, seems to be only a few hours these days,  we did a load of our websites not long ago, but then we could still run the sites on backup servers on the old IP addresses in the mean time, thank god!  But it was the following day before the last dribs and drabs dropped off.

From what I can see the TTL is 3600 seconds or an hour in real money so in theory it should not take more than a couple of  hours for the change to propagate the whole internet.  But that assumes that your name server and all the intervening  name servers obey the TTL.

t.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Lawnmower Man on May 26, 2010, 01:02:24 pm
UPDATE

The change will happen at 12:00 noon UK time. After that, it will take a while for the DNS to propagate, but you still should be able to reach CA in the interim just using http://95.128.24.74 as CA is the default site on the server. There might be ten minutes or so of re-boot, and the time may not be exactly on the second, so don't panic if nothing works for a short while.



Hi,

Just a small word of caution on this.  When you click a link it try to take you to http://www.clubarnage.com/forum/WHATEVER and that will still fail.
However the wiki side of the site will still work so I'll add some info there on the status of the server.

t.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Grand_Fromage on May 26, 2010, 01:11:58 pm
Good point.

I tried using 130.228.2.207 and it can be made to work, but you have to replace 'www.clubarnage.com' with 130.228.2.207 with cut and paste for each page you open. Laborious but possible...


UPDATE

The change will happen at 12:00 noon UK time. After that, it will take a while for the DNS to propagate, but you still should be able to reach CA in the interim just using http://95.128.24.74 as CA is the default site on the server. There might be ten minutes or so of re-boot, and the time may not be exactly on the second, so don't panic if nothing works for a short while.



Hi,

Just a small word of caution on this.  When you click a link it try to take you to http://www.clubarnage.com/forum/WHATEVER and that will still fail.
However the wiki side of the site will still work so I'll add some info there on the status of the server.

t.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Lord Steve on May 26, 2010, 08:34:43 pm
What are you all on about?


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Barry on May 26, 2010, 09:39:26 pm
I haven't a clue, all techno babble to me.
I like to click a tab, and it works.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: nopanic - neil on May 26, 2010, 09:48:18 pm
Computers - i think he is worried about bugs in the system, 

(http://www.symbian-freak.com/downloads/freeware/cat_s60_3rd/images/games/spaceinvaders.gif)


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: jpchenet on May 27, 2010, 01:03:53 pm
Well, it's 12.03 and the site is working for me on the usual URL, as is http://95.128.24.74, so is it safe to assume the cutover has happened and it has all gone very smoothly?


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Grand_Fromage on May 27, 2010, 01:09:14 pm
All seems good right now. Phew!


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Lawnmower Man on May 27, 2010, 01:42:37 pm
HI,

I can now confirm the job is done. All looks to be working to me.

T.

I've unstickied the topic since it a thing of the past.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: president on May 27, 2010, 04:16:08 pm
it went down and now it is back up in true Microsoft fasion  ;D


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Lawnmower Man on May 27, 2010, 06:29:42 pm
it went down and now it is back up in true Microsoft fasion  ;D

No it's freeBSD and totally microsh*t free.   >:D >:D >:D >:D


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Grand_Fromage on May 27, 2010, 07:44:34 pm
Small wrinkle restarting the database when the server was re-booted. Lennart (bless him) sorted it out as soon as I spotted the problem and gave him a call.

Yes, our server is a totally Microsoft free zone, and thank heaven for that!

GF

it went down and now it is back up in true Microsoft fasion  ;D


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Rusty on May 27, 2010, 08:25:40 pm
Well lordy lordy,

My connection at home is now working thanks to this change of IP address, good work. Lots of useless and inane drivel to follow from now on, hooray  ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Rusty


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursday
Post by: Andy on May 27, 2010, 08:39:26 pm
Rusty, that will keep you busy until the off then....... ::)


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Barry on May 27, 2010, 09:04:52 pm
Well lordy lordy,

My connection at home is now working thanks to this change of IP address, good work. Lots of useless and inane drivel to follow from now on, hooray  ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Rusty

Welcome back Rusty.


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Lawnmower Man on May 27, 2010, 09:14:54 pm
Well lordy lordy,

My connection at home is now working thanks to this change of IP address, good work. Lots of useless and inane drivel to follow from now on, hooray  ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Rusty

It must gave been some bizzare Firewall thing.   Good to see your back BIG TIME  ;) ;)


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Rusty on May 27, 2010, 11:09:25 pm
HOORAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Essential changes to CA server may cause a short pause in service on Thursda
Post by: Canada Phil on May 28, 2010, 04:13:08 am
Well lordy lordy,

My connection at home is now working thanks to this change of IP address, good work. Lots of useless and inane drivel to follow from now on, hooray  ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Rusty
Welcome back Rusty. See you on BN
Phil