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Title: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Jon King on December 21, 2009, 12:05:39 pm
 According to Autosport that Aston Martin are pulling out of Le Mans series and Le Mans 24 hour to concentrate on the 2011. But there will be one privateer running a Lola Aston Martin


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Bentley boy on December 21, 2009, 01:19:00 pm
Not good  :'( 


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Lazy B'stard on December 21, 2009, 01:58:58 pm
Aston said quite some time ago that they would be working on a all new car for 2011. This is still the plan so no change. There will be at least one AM LMP1 at Le Mans entered by Signature Plus. The Charouz Aston has been sold and might make an appearance and there is still a chance that the works squad might enter the single remaining car although I'm unsure if it will be in Gulf colours if it does. There was some dialogue between AMR and Gulf a few months ago but its gone all quiet.
 So its not the end of the world guys ;)


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: geoffd on December 21, 2009, 06:54:42 pm
They do have an auto-invite to LM, so I guess they may try and find a budget from somewhere to get one car into the race.

And, as Dr S, says AMR did say months ago that there weren't planning to run this years cars in 2010 but were hoping to pass them on to other teams to run.

Basically the Autosport report is old news!


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: jpchenet on December 21, 2009, 08:50:40 pm
After last years race Dave Richards told everyone in the Aston Martin Hospitality that they would definately be back at Le Mans in 2010.

I'll wait for an official announcement!


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Lazy B'stard on December 22, 2009, 12:54:54 pm
After last years race Dave Richards told everyone in the Aston Martin Hospitality that they would definately be back at Le Mans in 2010.

I'll wait for an official announcement!

Thats DR for you ::)


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Lazy B'stard on December 22, 2009, 05:50:08 pm


I'll wait for an official announcement!

Well Mark, here is your announcement...

I've just had an e-mail from my friend at Gulf and there has been a turnround. There will be a Gulf Aston at Le Mans and Silverstone and probably Spa. But thats it- there is no full LMS programe this year.

So there you have it... an exclusive!


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: jpchenet on December 22, 2009, 07:24:00 pm


I'll wait for an official announcement!

Well Mark, here is your announcement...

I've just had an e-mail from my friend at Gulf and there has been a turnround. There will be a Gulf Aston at Le Mans and Silverstone and probably Spa. But thats it- there is no full LMS programe this year.

So there you have it... an exclusive!

Well at least that's something. Thanks Si!!

Could this simply mean that Gulf are not stumping up the sponsorship cash though.

There's always the hope that another sponsor might be found for a full on Factory Team?


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Andy Zarse on December 22, 2009, 07:53:34 pm
Dr S that is what the man told Mark and me in June. Although we were a bit giddy so may have misheard I suppose.  ???

PS does anyone really care too much about an LMS season?


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Bentley boy on December 22, 2009, 08:44:43 pm
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PS does anyone really care too much about an LMS season?

Still early day's possibly? hasn't the ALMS only grown in the last 2-3 years?

I'm trying my hardest to get to the Algarve night race in July :D  how many brownie points are required for another weekend away  :o


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Martini...LB on December 23, 2009, 12:10:09 am
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PS does anyone really care too much about an LMS season?

Still early day's possibly? hasn't the ALMS only grown in the last 2-3 years?

I'm trying my hardest to get to the Algarve night race in July :D  how many brownie points are required for another weekend away  :o

I am trying to blag the MotoGP at Catalunya followed by the Classic LM. SHE was not impressed because I initially called it a 'Road Trip' perhaps it sounded like too much fun. I sulked for a few days and I think that may have helped now I will go for the charm offensive over Crimbo and get my daughter primed to help explain the whole thing... fingers crossed.

>Martini...LB


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: alibongo on December 23, 2009, 01:16:51 pm


I'll wait for an official announcement!

Well Mark, here is your announcement...

I've just had an e-mail from my friend at Gulf and there has been a turnround. There will be a Gulf Aston at Le Mans and Silverstone and probably Spa. But thats it- there is no full LMS programe this year.

Thats good to hear


So there you have it... an exclusive!


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Lazy B'stard on December 26, 2009, 09:48:05 am
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Could this simply mean that Gulf are not stumping up the sponsorship cash though.

Not quite. As you know AMR is a stand alone company and seperate from Aston Martin, and as such is self funding. Money is tight (There will be no Charouz money next year) and the cost of building a brand new car from scratch is huge. AMR are concentrating all their time and funding on the new 2011 car and the deal to run at Le Mans was put together on a shoestring budget just to 'keep a hand in'.
 Gulf are also in negociations to back the team in 2011 and another good showing at LM and in front of the shareholders at Silverstone will make convincing the board to stump up the cash for a full programe that much easier.
 One problem of the works cars carrying Gulf colours is that they won't be able to run factory cars at Sebring or in the ALMS. Gulf as we know it have marketing rights to everywhere in the world apart from North America (where it is owned by Chevron). The factory cars are contracted to run in Gulf colours but Gulf are not interested and restricted in promoting its products in the US Market.

Si
 


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Lazy B'stard on December 26, 2009, 10:00:06 am
Dr S that is what the man told Mark and me in June. Although we were a bit giddy so may have misheard I suppose.  ???

Back in June it was the intention to run again in 2010 as a full team. DR was expecting (along with Pesca, Hugh De Chaunac etc.) that when the ACO tech regs for 2010 were announced after the race that there would be a further closing if the gap between the petrol and diesel cars. This turned out to be not the case and the concessions were not as sweeping as they hoped.
 The reason Audi and Pug dominate LM is not due to the fact that they run diesels- its because they have the budget and every part on those cars is the ultimate. The only way to compete is to build a car to a similar level. Throwing a road car engine in the back of a two year old Lola is not going to win Le Mans. Hence the re-think and the new 2011 car. It will probably be 2013 before it becomes a serious challenger.


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Robbo on February 01, 2010, 10:02:16 am
After last years race Dave Richards told everyone in the Aston Martin Hospitality that they would definately be back at Le Mans in 2010.

I'll wait for an official announcement!

http://www.amr-teams.co.uk/2010/01/aston-martin-racing-2010-plans.html (http://www.amr-teams.co.uk/2010/01/aston-martin-racing-2010-plans.html)


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: landman on February 01, 2010, 10:41:19 am
This means I really can't wait for June - THAT sound!

I do believe that it's 18 weeks this Saturday, the 6th


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: jpchenet on February 01, 2010, 11:35:48 am
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I am one happy racegoer!!

Not only will there be two Gulf Liveried AMR LMP1's at Le Mans, but there will be one at Sebring as well!!!

I think the next 6 weeks will fly by!!!  :)


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: mal on February 01, 2010, 01:15:10 pm
The full entry list is due to be published on Thursday - I hear rumours that the Beautiful Dome will be back as well.


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: termietermite on February 01, 2010, 02:07:14 pm
The full entry list is due to be published on Thursday - I hear rumours that the Beautiful Dome will be back as well.
I heard a Dome entry, but not which car.  Here's hoping as it was truly gorgeous, was it not?  The fourth Peugeot to be run by Oreca also.  We are due to see a lot of cars with lids this year.  Yum.


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: knetter on February 01, 2010, 03:38:08 pm
Good news, the more bubble tops the better and especially with gulf colors! Can't wait for Sebring!


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Bob U on February 01, 2010, 04:11:47 pm
NOTE TO SELF.

Remember to take Aston Martin Racing flag to hang from Turn 10 scaffolding.


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Lazy B'stard on February 02, 2010, 01:00:31 pm
Lots of LM news this week inc Adrian Fernadez to drive works Aston.

From DSC...

Aston Martin’s 2010 Plan - Add Fernandez
And Sebring And Long Beach


Aston Martin Racing has announced its 2010 programme – and as suspected, it’s slightly unusual.

Le Mans is a given, with two cars, but before that it will be ALMS races at Sebring and Long Beach, and then back to Europe for the Le Mans Series event at Paul Ricard (one car at each of the three). Gulf colours will feature once more.

Aston Martin regulars Chris Buncombe, Stefan Mücke, Harold Primat and Darren Turner will be joined by Adrian Fernández, who was more than rumoured to be involved in the Gulf cars’ exploits this year.

‘The team will also compete in selected blue riband races around the world post Le Mans,’ says the team’s statement. Details of the remaining race programme, and sixth driver, will be announced in due course.

“Having won the Le Mans Series Team and Driver titles in 2009 it will be a hard act to follow,” said Aston Martin Racing Team Principal, George Howard-Chappell. “However, we are looking forward to a great season of racing and we hope to have another strong showing at Le Mans. I’d like to welcome Adrian to the team, I’m sure with his experience he will be a great addition to our driver line-up.”


In addition to this I can tell you that Spa is now more than likely on the list.

Also a new line up in the third Audi R15- Fassler, Lotterer, Treluyer In - Premat, Luhr, Werner Out.

And on the Dome- Dome has sent an entry request for a Dome LMP1 to contest the 2010 Le Mans 24 Hours and that Ietoshi Kaneko has entered a Courage LC70 too, this the car entered two years ago by Terramos, but now powered by a Judd engine instead of the Mugen.

Should be a good year.


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Lazy B'stard on February 02, 2010, 01:02:08 pm
The full entry list is due to be published on Thursday - I hear rumours that the Beautiful Dome will be back as well.
I heard a Dome entry, but not which car.  Here's hoping as it was truly gorgeous, was it not?  The fourth Peugeot to be run by Oreca also.  We are due to see a lot of cars with lids this year.  Yum.

That Dome is very good looking I agree.

Also don't forget there is the third Aston run by Signature Plus this year.


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: Dirk3D_NL on February 02, 2010, 07:12:25 pm
NOTE TO SELF.

Remember to take Aston Martin Racing flag to hang from Turn 10 scaffolding.

let's see if Lee has one :D :laugh:


Title: Re: Aston Martin to be pulling out 2010 season
Post by: jpchenet on February 03, 2010, 12:50:52 am
I think in the oast it may have been at risk of being burnt, what with Turn 10's allegiance to Corvette.

Hopefully this year as their in seerate classes it will be acceptable! :-)